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Overpowered ?
« on: 02/19/03 at 23:47:42 » |
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I can't help myself but to think that they're overpowered. Not only that but in creating them you've taken 2 abilities that define two different classes and put it on them, combining it with massive hp. Plus, giving them ability to use all the big weapons in the game does not make it easier.
How similar are these abilities; are they similar in that sense that they have just different names or is the dmg that they cause different ?
Is this making rapid fire obsolete already ? I mean berserkers can use better weapons, and have more stamina, and get that stamina earlier than rangers, and have better hp. Plus, if it has same effect as rapid fire (where my 18 str ranger does 90dmg on lv 27, with enchanted bow), how bigger dmg will a 21str, hally-wielding dwarf make ?
Same thing is for thieves, although thieves covert and stealing ability makes them still more usefull. Even so, assassinate is ability that is defining thieves, and now it has been pumped up (better weapons, more stam) and given away to berserkers.
And if 6 stam is implemented for berserkers...
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Re: Overpowered ?
« Reply #1 on: 02/20/03 at 04:52:28 » |
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i agree 2a low xtent but i dont care cuz itsa new class and if u get 1 and lvl it 2 a higher lvl u can kill everyone lol...so even if r overpower witch wont be that biga deal it'll b fun and u can beat one against another...so i aint gonna complian
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Re: Overpowered ?
« Reply #2 on: 02/20/03 at 05:45:09 » |
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I think their disadvantage over other classes is good to equal them out overall. Zercs cannot wear ANY armor, because of their ‘tough’ skin being armor enough (Hence their high hp). That they cannot wear.. Anything, other then a weapon. Hands are too large and bulky to wear spider gauntlets or anything else. But their hp and abilities make up for their loss of being able to weak armor. So Zercs wont make fighters obsolete (because fighters can wear armor + dex enhancers and other stat mods). So I think they are a good addition. 
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Re: Overpowered ?
« Reply #3 on: 02/20/03 at 14:08:22 » |
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on 02/19/03 at 23:47:42, medication wrote:
Is this making rapid fire obsolete already ? I mean berserkers can use better weapons, and have more stamina, and get that stamina earlier than rangers, and have better hp. Plus, if it has same effect as rapid fire (where my 18 str ranger does 90dmg on lv 27, with enchanted bow), how bigger dmg will a 21str, hally-wielding dwarf make ? |
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i dunno maybe its just a bug on mine but doesnt berserk take away a good chunk of your own health when cast? i think that easily makes up for being able to use better weps.
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Re: Overpowered ?
« Reply #4 on: 02/20/03 at 16:55:58 » |
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The damage done to the opposition by casting beserk, is also done to yourself.
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Re: Overpowered ?
« Reply #5 on: 02/20/03 at 21:34:29 » |
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Like i said in another post my lvl 30 ranger (Tadpole) got rounded by a lvl 21 zerk (Goliath)...he had spells but still a lvl 21?
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Re: Overpowered ?
« Reply #6 on: 02/21/03 at 01:01:30 » |
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Berserks are DEFINETELY overpowered. You see, a berserk using smite, with rage on, and just waiting in the sewer somehwere, could take smite, and using a hally, could 1 click almost anyone!
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Re: Overpowered ?
« Reply #7 on: 02/21/03 at 01:38:06 » |
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I'm agreeing with them being over powered, in definetly.
---------------- Goliath ----------------
Name: .
Class: Male Dwarf Adept Berserker
[Clan] Goliath: 1 rounders: lvl 30 mage ranger and fighter hehe
-And he's not kidding, I watched him do it. That's not only overpowered but extremely unblalanced. I don't own a beserker yet, but i'm sure if I did i would probably make it my main crit, seeing how I can round Archmasters at level 18. Excuse me.. but doesn't that seem just a bit too much?
( sorry kev, just using you as a prime example lol )
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Re: Overpowered ?
« Reply #8 on: 02/21/03 at 15:05:11 » |
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on 02/21/03 at 01:01:30, SweUrk Rchirack Unicrown wrote:| Berserks are DEFINETELY overpowered. You see, a berserk using smite, with rage on, and just waiting in the sewer somehwere, could take smite, and using a hally, could 1 click almost anyone! |
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What (Not No0b) Zerker actually uses rage? the highest dex u can have as a zeker is 18 and losing 4 makes having the crit pointless
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Re: Overpowered ?
« Reply #9 on: 02/21/03 at 15:08:29 » |
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Human Berserkers can have 19 dex.
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Re: Overpowered ?
« Reply #10 on: 02/21/03 at 15:17:01 » |
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still 15 dex come on
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Re: Overpowered ?
« Reply #11 on: 02/21/03 at 17:29:53 » |
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Without further information I would be inclined to agree. I think if you did a reasonable number of attacks normally and then the same number with rage, and averaged it, you would find it to be considerably lower. I could be wrong since I haven’t conducted such an experiment, and you would need a significant amount of attacks to give a fair idea. It seems to me that dexterity and strength do not carry the same weight in terms of attacking potential, but like I said I could be wrong.
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Re: Overpowered ?
« Reply #12 on: 02/22/03 at 05:34:21 » |
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my dwarf berserker, with rage, enhance, righteous can take anything anytime anywhere, its bull and i dont like it. why do i have it, because soon thats all will be in the game, you cant one round an archy berserker, no way will it happen. then they round anything they tocuyh
they will not die. and i have to have one now, to DEFEND my archy, now thats rediculous
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Re: Overpowered ?
« Reply #13 on: 02/22/03 at 07:17:51 » |
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Your achie is extremely crap then, look. Barbarians aren't overpowered, They wouldnt have been put in the game if there wasnt something bad about them, cant wear enhancers, armor atm, I think there is something else bad about them we don't know....
Just stop yer whinin' and wait.
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Re: Overpowered ?
« Reply #14 on: 02/22/03 at 10:08:31 » |
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lol, ive seen other archies pk'ed too, not just mine. i must admit, my archy only has 329 hp. And horror, whats your name ingame?
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Re: Overpowered ?
« Reply #15 on: 02/22/03 at 12:56:46 » |
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Enhance doesn't work with rage.
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Re: Overpowered ?
« Reply #16 on: 02/22/03 at 17:21:26 » |
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on 02/22/03 at 10:08:31, King_Macros wrote:| lol, ive seen other archies pk'ed too, not just mine. i must admit, my archy only has 329 hp. And horror, whats your name ingame? |
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Maybe hes Horror?
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Re: Overpowered ?
« Reply #17 on: 02/22/03 at 20:45:39 » |
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Reading my Sig might help...
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Re: Overpowered ?
« Reply #18 on: 02/23/03 at 00:50:42 » |
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O.o.  boo hoo the staff put the zerkers into the game and if there are any things that they dont like or maybe just have problems with they will either remove the problem or remove the chrts from the game
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Re: Overpowered ?
« Reply #19 on: 02/23/03 at 10:26:56 » |
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on 02/22/03 at 12:56:46, Bullitt wrote:| Enhance doesn't work with rage. |
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with mine it does. champ, enhance, righteous all work on mine
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