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Re: Odds on the roller
« Reply #20 on: 09/18/03 at 00:44:18 »
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on 09/14/03 at 02:35:55, JLH wrote:

 
This is based on the binomial distribution, with the probability of getting a max stat being 1/12, and therefore the probability of a stat not being max is 11/12.

 
I did further math a ***long*** time ago and can remember very little now... but with a binomial distribution is the chances the same of, say a dwarf getting 21 con and 20?
 
If we went by pandi's suggestion of using a biased distribution... you would get a 1 stat every 15 or so goes....  
 
Rip my math to shreds and correct it, but if that happened the chance of any individual stat been perf would be 15*6=90... and the chance of a 5 stat would be 90^6= 1 in 531441 million
 
Obviously it would depend on the variance... but in any case it would make any further 6-stats been VERY rare
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« Reply #21 on: 09/18/03 at 00:48:57 »
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I just wanna know what's the odds that not only will I get a 4 or 5 stat (I've given up on 6).... but will those 4 or 5 stats be in the CORRECT positions!! *lol*
 
I keep rolling 19 19 19 8 19 19 or 21 18 7 21 18 17 and 18 19 12 18 18 19...
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« Reply #22 on: 09/18/03 at 12:13:15 »
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One must remember, making up ratios here, that if its a 1 out of 10 percent chance that you will get something, its still a Chance. Unless it is 100% chance there is no promise. Again with my made up ratio, if it said I had a 1 out of 10 percent chance to roll a 2 stat crit, then I could roll 10 times and Not get it, or roll 10 times and get more than 1. It is after all, only a percent Chance. In any case, chances or not, I still hate the roller  Wink
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« Reply #23 on: 09/18/03 at 12:13:22 »
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depends on the code jlh uses.
 
for example if the base stat is 13 and it changes with 6 so the range is from 7 to 19. the chance for a stat beeing perfect is 1 out of 12.
 
there are 6 diff stats so the chance to get a max stat AND it is strength is 1/6 * 1/12  =  0.0138888889
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« Reply #24 on: 09/18/03 at 17:48:34 »
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the chance of any particular combination is 1 in 12^6
each stat is worked out seperately, they are all independent events, therefore the chance of getting a max str is 1 in 12, the chance of getting a max in dex is 1 in 12.
the chance of having str and dex as max is 1 in 144.
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If we went by pandi's suggestion of using a biased distribution... you would get a 1 stat every 15 or so goes....  
 
Rip my math to shreds and correct it, but if that happened the chance of any individual stat been perf would be 15*6=90... and the chance of a 5 stat would be 90^6= 1 in 531441 million
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« Reply #25 on: 09/18/03 at 19:18:51 »
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And just to cheer you up if a 6 stat is 1 in 2,985,984
that doesn't mean that your next roll has a 1 in 2,985,983 chance, its still 1 in 2,985,984  Grin
 
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« Reply #26 on: 09/18/03 at 20:24:58 »
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« Reply #27 on: 09/20/03 at 06:40:29 »
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OK If there are truly odds on the roller then someone explain the to me why there are always at least 5 or more of the same being rolled out at just arround the same times.
 
 A few weeks ago it was 6/6 dwarfs and 4/6 Elf's now this week I've seen 4 or 5 newly rolled 1 off 6 stat h-lings with the same exact stats. Wtf is up with that? And dont tell me it's luck, with the way it's been going it surley is anything but that.
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« Reply #28 on: 09/20/03 at 08:54:04 »
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OK If there are truly odds on the roller then someone explain the to me why there are always at least 5 or more of the same being rolled out at just arround the same times.
 
 A few weeks ago it was 6/6 dwarfs and 4/6 Elf's now this week I've seen 4 or 5 newly rolled 1 off 6 stat h-lings with the same exact stats. Wtf is up with that? And dont tell me it's luck, with the way it's been going it surley is anything but that.

 
It's a conspiracy,......offcourse its luck.
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« Reply #29 on: 09/20/03 at 22:27:12 »
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Shocked wow. I understood that formula. It alllll makes sense now! THE MEANING OF LIFE IS IN THAT FORMULA!
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« Reply #30 on: 09/21/03 at 02:38:17 »
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remember back when everyone owned humans with 19 18 18 18 19 15 or 19 18 18 18 19 16? now that was a conspiracy
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« Reply #31 on: 09/21/03 at 23:45:27 »
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on 09/20/03 at 22:27:12, Issy wrote:
Shocked wow. I understood that formula. It alllll makes sense now! THE MEANING OF LIFE IS IN THAT FORMULA!

Actually the meaning of life is 42.
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« Reply #32 on: 09/22/03 at 01:44:35 »
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« Reply #33 on: 09/22/03 at 02:47:06 »
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lol I rolled 4000 times... not one crit worth even keeping....
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« Reply #34 on: 09/22/03 at 02:59:29 »
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You must have a lot of time on ur hands. Doesn't Rolling 4000 times kinda whisper to you "get a life" hehe just playin Sera your awesome!
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« Reply #35 on: 09/22/03 at 05:58:33 »
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my odds for a 5 stat were 234,432...
 
just rolled 18 21 19 9 20 21
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« Reply #36 on: 09/22/03 at 06:20:33 »
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yea i remeber when there were like set stats like you couldnt get a better combo then like 19 18 18 18 19 15 or 19 10 19 19 17 10. What was up with that id just like to clear that up i keept on being told that you could get better but then why did everyone have them crits? I mean what are the odds that 40-50 people all had crits with the same stats... so i know they were set but why and then why was it changed so you could get any combo of stats?
 
plz reply ive been wanting to know this forever..
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« Reply #37 on: 09/22/03 at 18:13:49 »
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there isn't and has never been any set stat combos or anything, all stats are generated independently.
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« Reply #38 on: 09/23/03 at 06:11:01 »
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so what was the reason that everyone was getting 19 10 19 19 17 10 and 19 18 18 18 19 15 just luck? i dont know doesnt seem like it and im sure alot of other players feel that way me myself i have 2: 19 10 19 19 17 10 crits and at one time had 3
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« Reply #39 on: 09/23/03 at 07:20:57 »
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Lmfao! Weird, my first Dank was 19 10 19 19 17 10  Roll Eyes
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