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[Bane]

Dear Staff,

 

I was conferring with some of my Nightmist colleagues and we were discussing how awesome it would be as a quality of life change and giant time saver if we had some additional portals available for purchase in the clan house.

 

Some suggestions were as follows;

 

Tirantek 

Silversail

Natura

Sarka

Faravar Trading Post

 

This is all we could think of right now. but if any more come to mind I'll add.

 

We would really appreciate if these could be considered

 

Thanks!

[Gaddy]

I would love more teleporters and more teleporter options.

Also, is there a guide on how to request teleporters get added to Clan Houses?

[Gaddy]

Mike directed me to the Clan House Vortex Gate post for baseline details.
http://www.nightmist...178#entry206869

I am shocked to realize we have had CH VGs for over 15 years! I thought they were modern, but it turns out even the new stuff is decades old on Main. :-D

[Gaddy]

So, with the origination being from 2008, it feels pretty fair to question if expansion to Silversail and Tirantek can be added since we are 17 years on from that point in time. Faravar seems useful to add as well.
All of them would merit large price tags or larger CH requirements like the step change inserted for other towns. Butthe option would be lovely!

Do those towns still need to be separated from the rest of the game so rigidly after 20+ years of being accessible?
I dont think it feels needed.
But the decision about any adjustments (or even allowing the existing system to continue use) is up to just Stig really

[Masta]

Whilst I don't play multi. I think Silversail, Sarka and Natura definitely feel like valid ones to add for a higher price.

 

I think faravar is maybe in the "medium" / "dont-know" zone

 

I think Tirantek is likely a no-go

[Famous]

Not sure about main, as i have not played it for over 15 years, but i know on 1a, in Harabec you have the option to pay 5k to get to SS from there. So it really only takes 2 secs to tp to harabec, then spend a small 5k to take the ship into SS. As for TTK I just figure that is a no, since it is supposed to be a trek, even tho it would be lovely, especially since you have to get help on 1a if you aren't setting as local on your crits.

[Gaddy]

On Main, there is no quick-travel aside from Clan House Vortex Gates and a payment of 50K to quick-travel from Tirantek to Harabec (but no reverse route).

A reverse route of 50K to go from Harabec to Tirantek would be a nice addition.

 

Similarly, a ship to go from Harabec or another town to Silversail would be an improvement over the drudgery of running through forest, trail, cave, desert, and maze to get to a town. I think a high-cost Vortex Gate or a cheap shipping route would both be very nice update options.

 

Clan House Vortex Gates were all that came to mind, but general public travel with the 5-50K fees make for a good alternative to the Vortex Gate options. Those could be the more game-realistic options for Faravar and Tirantek. I don't want to fixate on realism in the text-based fantasy game that already has Vortex Gates when we're just looking to move between towns, but if "caravans" are something staff would consider while Vortex Gates are not----I'd like to see Caravans added.

[Bane]

 

 

Similarly, a ship to go from Harabec or another town to Silversail would be an improvement over the drudgery of running through forest, trail, cave, desert, and maze to get to a town. I think a high-cost Vortex Gate or a cheap shipping route would both be very nice update options.

 

 

 

 

Amen brother. It's high time Nightmist had a Zeppelin!

[BerserkedFrenzy]

Gaddy, you wrote:
"Similarly, a ship to go from Harabec or another town to Silversail would be an improvement over the drudgery of running through forest, trail, cave, desert, and maze to get to a town. I think a high-cost Vortex Gate or a cheap shipping route would both be very nice update options."

I am curious to know, what do you consider as actually playing the game? That which you have described as "drudgery" is what is called "playing the game" but it seems that you have different ideas so I am curious to know.

While the airship from Harabec to Silversail & back for 5,000 gold on the 1-alt server works quite nicely, I do not think it would work well on the Multi-alt server. First, the things that would give the airship its place do not exist on the Multi-alt server including the long stone bridge which crosses the Great River. Last I remember, there are Harabec guards that "block" access to the bridge beyond the eastern gate of Harabec, if such bridge actually exists on the Multi-alt server. Secondly, even if the things were there to give the airship its place, the cost would have to be adjusted to 50,000 gold or even 100,000 gold because the caravan taking players from Tirantek to Harabec costs 5,000 gold on the 1-alt server but costs 50,000 gold on the Multi-alt server & has a 20-alt limit. For that reason, I would rather just run straight to Silversail instead. Thirdly & finally, it really does not take more than 2 or 3 minutes to run from Arilin to Silversail. Sure, we might take the wrong turn & get a bit lost but that is the whole point, "playing the game".

Staff have already said no multiple times to the portals suggested in this thread. I have entertained such ideas but know that they are pipe dreams & recall conversations with staff about it which end up with a cessatory, final "No." No means no.

Whatever gets put into the game should be the doing of the creators & not the players. Players play the game, creators create & add content. Sure, players give input & creators consider them. But in this case, this thread is basically disregarding their "No." This is a "dead idea". The idiom, "Beating on a dead horse".

I am sorry to burst your bubbles. That is the truth. The same thing will continue to be told by someone for as long as those who choose to disregard that "No.".

[Gnarkill]

There is a quick way to end up in BT from NM on the multi server that I stumbled upon while pressing too many macros and overshooting my vault clan house to the west recently   I'm guessing it must have been a bug from when the clan house that used to be there was moved to BT and seeing this thread made me wonder if any of the other clan houses that had been moved to other towns over the years have had the same thing happen.

 

Tribal Street: You are on Tribal Street. You can go East or West down Tribal street, or North to the Ethereal Staircase clan house.

You went South.

Path to the Ðê§t®ºÿꮧ øf Ñïghtmï§t clan house: You are on the path to the Ðê§t®ºÿꮧ øf Ñïghtmï§t clan house, South. Maple Street is North. 

You went North.

Maple Street: You are on Maple Street. Maple Street continues East and West, while the Ðê§t®ºÿꮧ øf Ñïghtmï§t clan house lies to the South.

 

 

Edit: it's located a few squares east of the first crossroads when coming south from the Raven Street way in.

Edited by Gnarkill, 18 April 2025 - 09:06 AM.

[Bane]

I call shenanigans!

[Gaddy]

 

 

 

Similarly, a ship to go from Harabec or another town to Silversail would be an improvement over the drudgery of running through forest, trail, cave, desert, and maze to get to a town. I think a high-cost Vortex Gate or a cheap shipping route would both be very nice update options.

 

 

 

 

Amen brother. It's high time Nightmist had a Zeppelin!

 

 

Oh! I forgot about that fast-travel. The Airship allows us to freely crash (with damage) into Silversail, Arilin, Docks of Tempo, or Windia, so we do have fast-travel by Zeppelin!
More airships, please!!!  :-D   :-D

[Bane]

Yeah but the Airship doesn't have the same convenience as portal in the clan house.

[Gaddy]

But it is a lot better than the boss being a dead end. I think another post was asking for more Vortex Gates at bosses and paths. The Airship crash concept does that exact kind of play continuation in a fantastic way.
Its like how KuNal continues by Vortex Gate to go on toward Giant Hawk or town, rather than overly emphasizing L2L. Harabec Dungeon has similar VG mechanics, as do Resca and Stone Dragon.

So, Airship-style content at bosses or in towns is great. Maximum convenience isnt the whole point, in my opinion. Its a sort of continuation of play rather than back-pathing or L2L.

And thats part of why I support VG to Silversail at least - cause otherwise its just L2L with Silversail as local. And I use the Vortex Gate in the Desert Maze. An option to exisits in one direction, and I support expanding to both directions to not have L2L so frequently encouraged due to not using other game designs.

[Whiplash]

All for this.

 

Unfortunately,  multi-alt is blind eyed with updates and events, any update to Multi would be a bonus!

[Gaddy]

Got an update from Stig while looking to add teleporters to The Resistance.

 

Stig provided a very clear response, "Silversail and Tirantek won't get teleporters, no.  They are too remote."

[Bane]

Can't say I'm surprised