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[Silverwizard]

Yes I do not support pking but I felt like posting this. I suddenly found a very easy way of finding covert theives in high monster areas. Simply tow around a bunch of monsters and if most of them leave when you go to a certain screen, then there is a covert or some other invis character on the screen, vision and pk. Have fun.

[Momba]

Covert thieves don`t drag monsters...

And if I missed your point when you mentioned "A certain screen" then please enlighten me as to what the heck you are talken bout.

And if you are waiting for the flicker as Dog mentioned you might as well cast on each square. Because as the lag increases so do the flickers.

Edited by Momba, 11 April 2004 - 07:31 PM.

[dognapot]

from my own experience with monsters following me, i'd say you're just as well of casting vision every square. i'm not sure if this was ever resolved but if you are real still, you can see little screen flickers over your avatar and sometimes catch an invisible guy. i know i've been caught that way, but it's pretty slight, and hard to see. makes no sense really because i don't think the client is told when an invisible character enters the room, mainly because it'd be easy as hell to make a trainer for that.

[Crane]

Covert players also set off traps, so if you are in a trap room (e.g. the numerous traps in the Scarlet Daggers Guild) and it suddenly goes off again while you're still in there, it probably means someone has just entered the room.

[Squee]

He didnt' say that. He says to drag around monsters. If there is a player on a square, then the monsters will stop to try to attack him/her.

[Crane]

Sorry! 2 people posted while I was still composing my own!

[ice_cold]

from my own experience with monsters following me, i'd say you're just as well of casting vision every square. i'm not sure if this was ever resolved but if you are real still, you can see little screen flickers over your avatar and sometimes catch an invisible guy. i know i've been caught that way, but it's pretty slight, and hard to see. makes no sense really because i don't think the client is told when an invisible character enters the room, mainly because it'd be easy as hell to make a trainer for that.

this actually works on thieves only i believe, when i saw a druid come onto my square multiple times it didnt flicker, nbut with thieves it does all the time.

[dognapot]

i just did a quick a test on the flickering, but there's no reason for it happen. i know it does alot, but there's no information sent when a thief walks across your square.

[Tom]

the flicker thing

*Hint* try running desktop in different resolutions *Hint*

[Silverwizard]

Ok maybe I said it badly, if your carrying a big load of monsters around behind ya, and suddenly they stop following you someone on the last screen you were on is sitting there invis.

[Gaddy]

It didn't make sense to me til he they explained what he was saying. If people are covert and they're not planning on killing you...then they shouldn't be covert lol. I didn't realize some people sit on covert crits in 1 square waiting for people and allowing themselves to be visioned. Best way i've seen to find them is to either-

1. Have a crit you'll let them kill sit in square til they hit and then hit back.

2. Have a crit with high hp sit in square, hold macro for pots.

3. Sit on your normal fighting party til they hit, get macros set, let them get a 2nd set of hits on you, but after first thief pops up move from hitting cleric macs to hitting attack macs (my personal favorite).

4. Now w/ spyglass I've used it to find a couple of covert people, a couple of people in zeum with theives holding gold....then im the invis one being mean though i guess...-shrug-

[dognapot]

hey i used to sit covert all the time. it's a great way to profile people. just sit at an intersection and see who's going where, sometimes i could tell they wouldn't spend too long before coming back and i'd prepare macro the leader. it's sort of like clotheslining a guy.

[JLH]

"flickering" is due to; whenever someone looks around, or enters/leaves the square, everyone on the square is refreshed. it flickers, because i have it set to clear everything, then draw the new ones on, so there is a short time (milliseconds depending on cpu) of nothing being present. (i could set it to just draw the new ones on then clear any not just drawn to remove the flickering).

[Captain John Human]

i think the flickering is a good thing though, i feel this because sometimes youll notice some things and not pay attention to it, and it kinda adds to the roleplay aspect...

[Bun]

Yes I do not support pking but I felt like posting this. I suddenly found a very easy way of finding covert theives in high monster areas. Simply tow around a bunch of monsters and if most of them leave when you go to a certain screen, then there is a covert or some other invis character on the screen, vision and pk. Have fun.

i want some of what your on plzzzz

[Bean]

Hehe, Playing on my older computer the flicker is at least, AT LEAST half a second. That computer is so slow.... I tested it the other day

[Silverwizard]

Ummm, I'm not on it yet, it is coming in tommorow, sorry.