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Re: Smite!
« Reply #20 on: 04/05/03 at 10:33:18 »
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Zerlix - Zerks are already easy to train. Having looked over Archies idea, the only problem that could arrise is if your at full hp. Then you would Smite for zero. I think however it's a good idea, just needs a little modification.
 
Rob - I'm unsure of what your trying to explain here. It sounds like what smite is already. Can you break it down please, into a simpler version please?
 
Also do you mean that since it only uses 6 stam it's a lvl 27+ ability, or do you mean using full stamina whether it be 1-6. I do agree however it's done, Smite needs to be a lot more accurate than it is at present.
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Re: Smite!
« Reply #21 on: 04/05/03 at 18:08:20 »
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on 04/05/03 at 10:33:18, Eternyte wrote:
Having looked over Archies idea, the only problem that could arrise is if your at full hp. Then you would Smite for zero.

 
Thats the point.
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Re: Smite!
« Reply #22 on: 04/23/03 at 01:36:16 »
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Up the accuracy of smite by at least 25%
 
It hits like 1/100 smites.
 
Berserk Also hits a TAD bit less than I would have expected. Out of 5 stamina I hit like.... once maybe twice if im lucky.
 
Just up smite by like 25% and zerk for possibly 5%
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« Reply #23 on: 04/23/03 at 10:58:47 »
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The smite WAS useful... when zerkers first came out and you could hit for 5 each round instead of 1 with phists
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« Reply #24 on: 04/24/03 at 01:13:52 »
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Phists lmao!
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« Reply #25 on: 09/24/03 at 01:36:16 »
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on 04/05/03 at 00:50:50, Proteus wrote:
Well if its totally useless how about changing it.
 
Smite:
Hits 100% of the time. Does damage equal to the 75% of damage you have taken. Takes all your stamina. (Meaning 6/6, 5/5 ect..)
 
Example. Your at 200 HP out of 500. So you Smite, doing 75% of 300. Hitting for 225 damage and using all your stamina.
 
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Smite:
Hits 75% of the time. Does damage equal to the amount of damage you have taken. Takes all stamina. (6/6, 5/5.. ect)
 
Example. Your at 200HP out of 500. So you would hit for 300 damage with a 75% chance of hitting. Needing max stamina.
 
Meaning it gets better as you level, because at low lvl you you would have less HP, making it less effective.

 
The problem with this is that if you are in a fight and you have taken 6 points of damage, you would only smite for 4 points of damage.
 
So lets say you have an Arch Zerk fighting a Arch Fighter, the fighter wiffs the blow causing only 30 points of damage, then you do your round of smite at 75% causing 25 points of damage. You would half to be almost dead to hit worth a damm.
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« Reply #26 on: 09/24/03 at 02:25:30 »
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Which is why you would berserk until then....
 
Hence causing more damage to yourself and making smite cause more damage, as well as the fact that when they get their next round they will damage you even MORE making smite hit for even MORE
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« Reply #27 on: 09/24/03 at 03:50:09 »
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then you win the fight with 5 hp left and die on your way back to clan house/pub from poison lossing whatever you got from the battle.  
 
Makes sense.
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Re: Smite!
« Reply #28 on: 09/24/03 at 04:00:55 »
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Right, you go on thinking that....
 
Noob...lol
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« Reply #29 on: 09/27/03 at 22:54:21 »
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I havnt had a chance to see the highest smite on a person but..
 
You attempted to smite a Hedge Minion but failed and caused 559 points of damage.
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Re: Smite!
« Reply #30 on: 10/06/03 at 11:10:45 »
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Good idea too i rekon
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« Reply #31 on: 10/06/03 at 18:59:51 »
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on 09/27/03 at 22:54:21, Epic wrote:
I havnt had a chance to see the highest smite on a person but..
 
You attempted to smite a Hedge Minion but failed and caused 559 points of damage.

 
smite needs to hit more often doesnt it  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #32 on: 10/06/03 at 23:58:11 »
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« Reply #33 on: 10/07/03 at 06:55:10 »
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Lol...I think for relative figures to be stated. It would be better to attack a standard monster. I would say a Demonic Soldier, because they have nice. The problem with this is that Dwarf get an attack bonus underground.
 
I am assuming you did the 1000+ in the Swamp with a Torch?
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Re: Smite!
« Reply #34 on: 10/26/03 at 07:04:54 »
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.... think this topic is a perfect example of why you shouldn't use a crit that cannot use mods or armor to duel a dexed up halfling ranger...the point isnt that it shoudl never hit, but that it wouldnt hit that often.
 
kill or miss seems extremely dumb to me, sorry.
 
and uhh..a note...rancid (w/o enhance i know, and was suppose to be w/o any spells at all..which i believe) 1 clicked my arch dwarf cleric gaddy (w/o holy might on so he was on 18 dex, w/ 322hp i think)..csotw was on him..but honestly i could beat arch rangers w/ Gaddy at lvl 24 w/o having them round me...or very rarely...at begining of expert.
 
so ya...maybe if you take some stuff that isnt such awkward info..i mean..what you just showed was a spelled ranger (RF makes them hit more) and an unspelled zerker...thats not very fair info...i mean really, it isnt at all.
 
Smite misses quite a bit but using spells makes them hit more and maybe hitting less often is why smite takes less hp than berserk?
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« Reply #35 on: 10/26/03 at 19:29:26 »
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Well, as far as not hitting enough, I think you guys are all on crack. Not regular crack either. It's like crack that's high on acid that's high on shrooms. Then to top it off, we say +3. They shouldn't even be hitting as much as they do now because they hit extremely hard. I would say they are a lot easier to level than Fighters and Thieves (not power training). Freaking level 22's can hit monsters for 300+ unspelled regularly. Level 22! You all should be happy they hit as much as they do Tongue
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Re: Smite!
« Reply #36 on: 11/04/03 at 06:46:29 »
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Ok I just read this post and I just thought I would respond... I have a lv 27 dwarf zerk, and lately i've been using him a lot fighting other players, whether it be pking or moshes or dueling someone in the clan house arena, and his smite so far in all the fights I've done misses less than half of the time, and does even better against monsters, so I haven't really seen a problem with smite.
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« Reply #37 on: 11/04/03 at 15:11:12 »
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I dunno, but my zerker is like an impossibility or something... 48 stamina in a row berserking the other day he hit every time... I was drooling so much its not even funny
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Re: Smite!
« Reply #38 on: 11/04/03 at 15:36:18 »
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Monster or player? Was he buffed?
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« Reply #39 on: 12/04/03 at 23:21:13 »
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I find the Zerks Smite fine as it is, sure it misses and it that case you dont use it Tongue I miss with it and I have a rather low level Human Zerk but I still do around 100+ dmg ( which for a level 15 isnt the worse possible ) and well I guess Zerks are seemed overpowered by ppl who lose against them but we could say that against every class ( except pacifist ) that kills you.
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