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[Angelus]

I logged in and it showed that there were 2 characters (2 users). But when I did a /who it showed only me. I figured maybe it counts some semi-cloaked staff, so i yelled, only to find out that other user is probably also me (my yell came back twice).

There are 2 characters online, (2 users).
Server Started: 02-08-2009 15:49:56
There are 1 characters online, (1 users).
Online users: Angelus.

There are 2 characters online, (2 users).
Server Started: 02-08-2009 15:49:56
There are 1 characters online, (1 users).
Online users: Angelus.

Angelus yells from (Hidden): hello?
Angelus yells from (Hidden): hello?

So what's up with that?

[Piggy]

I r ninja

He knows why now <3

[Crane]

A new feature, /toggle who, that hides you from the /who list, although the total player and character count still shows in /server, and typing /who (character) still informs you that a character is online (look for the "Logged on:" field). In my eyes, it's hard to say if its intended use will work as well as hoped, because PKers can make use of it and its shortcomings just as much as non-PKers can.

[Achilles]

dumb addition imo :/...

[Sausage]

Wow.. Now that pk is in effect on Main this makes no sense. What's with the double yell thing tho? I noticed that as well. Tripped me out

[Isolated]

its the ngh square that double yells on..

and if you notice you can go "down" on that square too..

[Defeat]

Appearing on /who disabled.
There are 28 characters online, (28 users).
Online users: Achilles (AFK), Alias, Astinus (AFK), Autek, Balance, Beast, Black, Cennii, Day, Deathsythe, Devotchka, Diablo, Fire (AFK), Frodo_Baggins, Fyzzlyr, Hulk, Hybrid, Incognito, Kharhaz, Matrix, Metallica, Mythical, Placebo, Rush, Sublime (AFK), Tietsu, Unforgiven, Whisper.


Why doesn't it work on 1a? lol

[Achilles]

it shouldnt work on 1alt.. and imo, it shouldnt work on main..

[Gaddy]

It is not set for 1-Alt. We feel that it would making grouping even more difficult, and make the game look inactive to newcomers, if it were used.

On main, PKing is exactly why this command makes sense. It is ridiculous for players to know what party you have logged in and track you by that.
IE- O, Gaddy is on all clerics, let me check DG and SK.
Is not something we want to have happen.

Anyway, it will be interesting. We'll just wait and see how it turns out.

[Dekade]

Thats why you got to be smarter then the average bear

There are 44 characters online, (7 users).
Nightmist City Bank: You're in a bank. You may exit East onto Viper Street, or go Down into the vault.
A Bank Clerk is here with you.
There are 27 characters online, (4 users).

Try to figure it out

And to Gaddy - "
On main, PKing is exactly why this command makes sense. It is ridiculous for players to know what party you have logged in and track you by that.
IE- O, Gaddy is on all clerics, let me check DG and SK.
Is not something we want to have happen."

If that is your reason for main having this then why doesn't 1a?

"DA is on all clerics lets check Sk/Dg"
"DA is on all Thieves lets check gristle"

I would of said "Pande is etc" but we all know what pande is always on

Edited by Dekade, 10 February 2009 - 08:02 AM.

[Walt]

Thats why you got to be smarter then the average bear

There are 44 characters online, (7 users).
Nightmist City Bank: You're in a bank. You may exit East onto Viper Street, or go Down into the vault.
A Bank Clerk is here with you.
There are 27 characters online, (4 users).

Try to figure it out

And to Gaddy - "
On main, PKing is exactly why this command makes sense. It is ridiculous for players to know what party you have logged in and track you by that.
IE- O, Gaddy is on all clerics, let me check DG and SK.
Is not something we want to have happen."

If that is your reason for main having this then why doesn't 1a?

"DA is on all clerics lets check Sk/Dg"
"DA is on all Thieves lets check gristle"

I would of said "Pande is etc" but we all know what pande is always on

We are always on top?
We are always on the prowl for pks and boss kills?
We are always on your face, showing you our roosters?
We are always on our game?
We are always on Bad ass characters?
We are always on thieves?
All of the above?

Hitokir stand before you posing, flexing his Rooster.


BTW, notice how main needs this and that to be better off. We need pk on, but we need to be able to be cloaked so we do not get pwned.
We need pk on, but we only want to continue to loose 1.5 million exp if we die.
We need to be able to run 20 alts because running 1 alt and having to be sociable is not our way of doing it.

you Main Guys.

Edited by Walt, 10 February 2009 - 10:52 AM.

[Gaddy]

It helps PKers as well. Sets of thieves logged in, etc, can no longer be kept on a watch list, etc.

Sorry, there are some decent justifications for this aside from to lower the ability of players to track PKs and PKers. After the initial proposal and explaination, the entire staff team supported it.
It wasn't my concept, so I am probably not the best person to explain why it came up, etc.

[Crane]

Is it possible for the person who proposed it to post their explanation of it? Because I do wonder why the multi-alt server deserves to appear to have fewer players online than 1-alt. Saying that, I have found a use for it, namely hiding from a novice player who likes to page me to hell but otherwise means no malice. I still reveal myself most of the time - well, Crane at least - because I want to show that I have no reason to hide.

To be honest, I do not think it will make the game appear too inactive, especially since /server shows the true count and you can still see hidden crits in the same clan as you when you type #. Maybe to minimise the effect of the server appearing quiet, have something along the lines of this under /who:

There are 44 characters online, (7 users). (17 characters and 3 users hidden)

ADDENDUM: Maybe not "hidden", as that implies being covert like Thieves; "cloaked"? "anonymous"?

Edited by Crane, 10 February 2009 - 03:49 PM.

[Dekade]

I don't know walter from what I've seen lately pande is getting out hustled . But I do love your "Love you main guys"

Also, if you people are smart its still possible to know who is on and what crits there on you just have to use your brains

[Autek]

I say add it to 1a also. . . Grouping wouldn't be an issue at all. . . You group with clan members or clan allies, both of which wouldn't mind letting you know that they are on.

And yes, I too think its funny how main just keeps getting easier and easier.

[Achilles]

if this gets considered for 1alt ill post more reason's why it shouldnt have been implemented.. until then have fun in hiding..

[Isolated]

im not liking this /toggle who think in the least bit lol

[Sausage]

I only log on main to chat, see who's on and occasionally go out on a training trip. I think /toggle who is the most annoyingest nuisance ever implied ingame.

[Achilles]

agreed.. its even worse than that time main went nopk

Edited by Achilles, 13 February 2009 - 05:28 PM.

[Raylen]

i agree with gareth

17 characters on, 7 of which are hidden.
visible characters: a, b, c, etc

[Ember]

i like the addition and as for adding it to 1alt, don't see the reason b/c it won't stop pande from seeing what da is doing or the other way around anyhow. There are other ways.

Edited by Ember, 18 February 2009 - 12:06 AM.

[Cadabra]

It's dumb for either server......
It's basically another way of it being nopk.

This should have been discussed between players instead of just staff before it was put in.

[Achilles]

It helps PKers as well. Sets of thieves logged in, etc, can no longer be kept on a watch list, etc.

Sorry, there are some decent justifications for this aside from to lower the ability of players to track PKs and PKers. After the initial proposal and explaination, the entire staff team supported it.
It wasn't my concept, so I am probably not the best person to explain why it came up, etc.

will someone else explain it then? because it is really lame and from just reading this post the player base doesnt agree with it...