25 replies to this topic

[Sean]

i think it makes them overpowered to be honest and should be taken away.

[Fire Fly]

This should not be taken away, even though it might ''over power'' them as you put it. It's only a spell and it doesn't last that long anyway. Next you will want to take almighty retribution away from zerkers because it gives them armor.

[Da_J_Mooney]

Like its been said many times before, dont say they are overpowered unless u have owned/do own an arch zerk. Theyre fine as they are now, you're just mad cuz you get killed by them, if i killed u with my thieves repeatedly, would they be overpowered too?

[Ryuku]

Well said Jmooney.

[Tom]

how can you say a crit is over powered with spells on lmao, thats the idea....

[Rappy_Ninja]

Like its been said many times before, dont say they are overpowered unless u have owned/do own an arch zerk. Theyre fine as they are now, you're just mad cuz you get killed by them, if i killed u with my thieves repeatedly, would they be overpowered too?

they are over powered at lvl 22/23 w/e they get 5 stam because they can round arch rangers with full eq if they 5/5

[deadman]

Ima take a page out of rappy's book...


JUST CRY!



Leave things the way they are.

[Prophet]

I own zerks; and tbh they're hitting power is awesome, but thats where it stops. They don't kill in a duel they are gone next round as you simply can't heal them to full after they been hit with 2 full rounds. Even if you do they get taken out next round.

[Malavon]

Tell me then.. if zerks are as 'balanced' as all you cry babies say they are, why do you all use them so much?

[Thunderja]

Tell me then.. if zerks are as 'balanced' as all you cry babies say they are, why do you all use them so much?

Because I think they are the best crit ingame if you have 3 of them with cobalts. If you spend 30 mil on 3 crits you would expect them to be fairly powerful.

This argument is old and tiring. There are so many ways this class even with RF is not the best. Most have been said over and over again. I feel rangers are easily the best rounded class ingame which is why I run just as many of them as zerks... And if it wasn't for our cobalt tree, I would be running more of them as zerks chew cleric stam at any respectable boss.

Anyway, i'm not going to start on this in depth again. If you feel the need to ask or argue my point of view have a look at the 5 or so other threads like this run by the same people.

[Lady_Maha]

Berserkers are not overpowered. I have a few of them, and let me tell you, unless you put a cobalt or at least a blade of time on them, they are pretty vulnerable.

I have taken my berserker with BoT against my ranger with dex ammy (ranger has con off and hence not the best hp) in the arena, and the majority of the time my ranger dropped my berserker.

If you have a cobalt on your zerker it might look a bit different, but considering you spend 10 million (10,000,000!!) you would expect a certain amount of difference, so stop crying about berserkers being overpowered, because really, they aren't.

[Rappy_Ninja]

Berserkers are not overpowered. I have a few of them, and let me tell you, unless you put a cobalt or at least a blade of time on them, they are pretty vulnerable.

I have taken my berserker with BoT against my ranger with dex ammy (ranger has con off and hence not the best hp) in the arena, and the majority of the time my ranger dropped my berserker.

If you have a cobalt on your zerker it might look a bit different, but considering you spend 10 million (10,000,000!!) you would expect a certain amount of difference, so stop crying about berserkers being overpowered, because really, they aren't.

duh because it isnt spelled do this for me maha cast rf/hance on that zerker and you tell me what it does against anyone besides round them in 3-4 stam

[Lady_Maha]

And cast rf on the ranger as well and see it go back to the original results... I had enhanced and rf berserkers hit my ranger before which was also spelled up, and the zerker missed still. 23 dex will do that in most cases, rf or not.

Edit again: Also take the ranger and hypno the zerker and the zerker is toast again.

Edited by Lady_Maha, 17 December 2004 - 06:24 PM.

[Squee]

I've tried to train a Half-Orc Berserker solo and it's fairly difficult (I'd even go as far as to say harder than a solo mage).

From that perspective, their power is justified.

[Crane]

The main use of a Berserker, from my experience, is to act as a front-line support unit - I say support unit because they are not very good by themselves; they need other crits with them to be an effective class. I support Righteous Fury to boost their power temporarily because they do not have any other uses other than to be a powerful attacker.

[Raylen]

I used to think they were slightly overpowered, mainly in a 3v3 situation. But they get hit usually 4/5 by rangers or so...last PT i duelled Sam (i think) - his first ranger hit 4/5, i got in 2 heals on my zerker, and he still got dropped by the second ranger

And as for bosses, gimme a nice ranger anyday, zerks get pwnt

[trigger happy]

Like its been said many times before, dont say they are overpowered unless u have owned/do own an arch zerk. Theyre fine as they are now, you're just mad cuz you get killed by them, if i killed u with my thieves repeatedly, would they be overpowered too?

sry but LMFAO....nicely said....rofl

[Sean]

Nice job bumping a 3 month old post.

[Gaddy]

I've suggested a couple of times that Righteous Fury be taken out of PvP.

It makes no sense at all for it to work on all classes other than berserkers, but I think it makes sense to say that it drops if players hit other players (before the attack btw)---it's not exactly 'righteous' to be trying to kill people, and the spell does cause rangers and berserkers to hit too hard too often in my opinion.

[combusta]

lol take RF away....then take zerks away completely....

take RF away form zerks and then there would b basically no point for a cleric in a 3 on 3 when u usin 2 zerks.....this is sad how this idea was even brought up take rf away from zerks...imagine rangers witout RF....this post is retarded

i will leave with the good old

ZERKS R PART OF THE GAME DONT LIKE IT STOP PLAYING!!!

Edited by combusta, 08 March 2005 - 02:23 AM.

[Raylen]

I agree with Gaddy

[Dark]

fighters pwn zerkers bout the only thing they can pwn lol

[fallen]

so many plp cry zrker this and that....yes they have up sides, being huge damage..but have down sides like 0 AC witch can make a whole team of them a little more challanging to wheel from a cleric's point of view ....also why try to change a perfectly fine class in a game cause you personally choose not to use them...I mean if they are sooooo much better why doesnt every user have a small army of them??plp have been talkin forever about how zrkers need changing, but they are plp that dont really use them or own them at high lvl ...cause most zrker user's I know really like them <2cents pay up!?!

[Ryuku]

My lvl 27 zerker without spells can round an arch ranger if he hits good enough, which he almost always does. Take away RF on zerkers, mine will only have less str, hit increase won't matter much

[combusta]

ty fallen

[speedy]

very well spoken fallen zerks arent over powered they have there ups and there downs you just gotta know how to use them properly to use them