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[Velveta]

Weapon name:Library info for Crystal Bow of the Sky:( Name can be changed if needed.)

Base damage 20, Can be used By: Rangers, Description: To compare this Bow to any other mortal weapon would be preposterous. This dazzling red bow has been enchanted with the magical auras of every god throughout history. Passed down from deity to deity, the last immortal owner of this weapon decided to finally grace the mortal world with its presence. Whoever possesses this marvelous piece of equipment has extreme power in their grasp. Not only will the owner attack with the sheer power of the stormclouds formed above them, but the bow allows them to absorb the life of their enemies with every hit. Resting along the bow is a small crystal sphere which glows brighter with every consecutive hit., Level needed to equip it: 29, Magical: Yes, Vamparic: 0.125, Armor: 0, Strength modifier: 0, Intelligence modifier: 0, Dexterity modifier: 0, Constitution modifier: 0, Wisdom modifier: 0, Charisma modifier: 0, Poison chance: 0, Poison/30s damage: 0, Monster damage table: , Mana leech: .


Too powerful or not? staff and other rangers apply there opinions.

Edited by Velveta, 14 March 2004 - 05:53 AM.

[Oasis]

Name is kinda lame. But pretty much anything thats vamp on a ranger is overpowered.

Iono tho since it would be a level 29+ weap.

[Tadpole]

Ya name should be changed...i dont think its too powerful though...not many ppl would approve of a vamp bow though...i dont see why not though....Every class gets to use cobalt but for rangers it dont work with rapid fire...but it works for berserk...So i dont see why not a bow...and the vamp isnt that much plus its one point lower base damage than EB and lvl 29.

[Velveta]

Name can be changed to what Staff wants it to be called. But the Bow its self is doable>?

[trigger happy]

i like the idea...but does posions/30s mean its poisonis cause if so that shouldn't be there...and i think would be cool if you add in something about arrows...like this weapon makes arrows of lighnting from the clouds above...because Nm dont have to have arrows for the bows when ever other game does..that would explain some of the reason...*shrug*..and i think the base should be like 22..cause a good normale weapon for lvl 20+ fighters/zerkers is a halberd which is 25 base damage..and a cobalt is only 1 more..so why not make the crystal bow 1 more base damage than the enchanted bow?..lol just my thoughts...but the named sucks..lol how about something like Dimoned Edged Bow..or something lol..something new something to make the game just a little newer

[Velveta]

Now if this idea is noted or is made into a reality then i was thinking that they make a boss that drops it but only rangers can go for it .

[Velveta]

Cobalt staff of the winds = 27 bd

[trigger happy]

woops lol i made a mistake on the cobalt bd...but still make bow 22..23 would be too powerfull

[Gaddy]

It could probably make CG do-able without healing your rangers if you had a lot of them there. I think that taking 3 base (?) from enchanted bow and adding on .125 vamp is relativly fair. Thieves do basically the opposite with DoS and DotW. I probably wouldn't use the bow, I like clerics.

[Velveta]

Any staff Comments?

[gnr and safety hazard]

I like this one.

[ice_cold]

people dont approve of bows being vampiric because there isnt a bound between what your shooting and and yourself, where a weapon your holding. you can berserk with a cobalt because your holding the weapon, rapdi fire doesnt work because you cant 'fire' a weapon. im definatly not with this idea. if rangers get a new weapon, it should be 1 - 3 base higher non magical and non stat changing. defintaley shouldnt be store baught, as then people would equip it and keep enchanted for boss drops.

[alone]

Tadpole, sure, they may be lacking abit with the vamp side.. But then, they have the advantage of their main weapon being cheap, magical and dealing decent damage.
This'd have to be one hell of a hard boss to kill, and with a real low drop rate.
Why can't rangers have a vap weapon, it's fantasy...

[ice_cold]

they can, spider staff. when they get higher they can drop 10 mil for a cobalt. fighters and zerkers only get a vamp by paying 10 mil

[alone]

If you read Tadpole's post, we're on about weapons they can rapid fire with, most commonly used skill of theres.

[Velveta]

Well Berserkers are practically indestructible with Csotw's. So are druids Thieves, Fighters, Why cant a ranger Get a weapon that has Vamp that they can use with there main Attack skill. Rapid Fire.This Bow would Make Rangers Funn and it is something else to look forward too for a ranger.

since Berserks and fighters have oak staff, Quarterstaff, Warhammer, Broad Sword, Spear. Blade of sacrifice, Blade of honor, Scimitar, Pike, Harpoon, halberd, Great axe, rose blade, Csotw's, and Blade of Time.

Rangers have.. Oak staff, spider staff, Long bow, Short Bow, Steel bow, Leather Bound Bow, Steel long bow, and Enchanted Bow then Csotw's)not helpful to a ranger) see the difference.

[newb]

I don't think it is a very good idea.

[Zelimos]

i cant be bothered going in-game and looking, but isnt that description already a description for CSOTW?

[newb]

Yes, yes it is.

He just changed about 3% of it.

[ice_cold]

there's only 2 classes that can use the CSotW with a 1 click ability, and it's pretty pointless with a thief since they basically want to just click you without being attacked. Rangers are already powerful enough, they dont need a vamp with rapid fire, NUFF said

[Tadpole]

For one rangers aren't "too powerful". They hit for 20-50's max w/o spells...and even lower than 20 sometimes...Thieves can use cobalt and use their main ability, Berserkers can use cobalt and use Berserk...which is the same as rapid fire...and also hit harder...and u might say "well zerks dont have armor" even with that fact rangers only hit zerks for like 70's 80's...and every other class can use it with their normal attacks. Enchanted bows base damage was already dropped...i dont see how this bow is "too powerful" or whatever...its got lower base than eb and the vamp isnt even that much.

Edited by Tadpole, 15 March 2004 - 08:09 PM.

[Gaddy]

I've never really seen the problem with rangers not having a vamp bow. They don't really need it much imo. If it were added though, then I think ice_cold makes a good point (the 10m for csotws one). If other classes have to pay 10m to get a good vamp weapon (excluding dotw), then it ought to be the same for rangers. Maybe give it a base between 1 more and 2 less than enchanted bow, make it magical, with about .2 vamp to .15 vamp, hence less energy being transferred arrow to person than directly hitting ---it being less vamp than csotws.

Making that type of weapon a boss drop would be stupid and just give people a VERY easy arguement to say rangers are overpowered, if you make it store bought you might have a max of 3 for 1 person or so, and i dont think they'd even bother to get more than 1.

Edited by Gaddy, 15 March 2004 - 08:30 PM.

[Stotic]

I don't like the idea because of prior stated reasons.

[Zelimos]

I don't like the idea because of prior stated reasons.

i gotta agree

[green_mantis]

this is a bad idea. no bow would ever be able to be vampiric without having a "magical string attached to the bow and the arrow.

[Wolfgang]

this is a bad idea. no bow would ever be able to be vampiric without having a "magical string attached to the bow and the arrow.

there are other ways it could work. But yes... its not very possible. No physical connection... unless you swiped them with the bow.

[Squee]

Didn't you people read the old forums?

[Silverwizard]

Firstly, yes, Squee, the rangers hit people over the head with the shaft of the bow so it doesn ot matter but second, HOW THE HECK CAN YOU SAY THAT THE RANGER IS NOT ABLE TO ABSORB THE HP WITHOUT THE CONNECTION, IT IS IMMPOSSIBLE TO ABSORB THE DAMAGE WITH THE CONNECTION IN THIS WORLD STOP TRYING TO APPLY THE 'RULES' THAT YOU BELIEVE JLH COULD SAY THAT WE ARE ALL WALKING ON THE CIELING BECAUSE GRAVITY IS REVERSED AND HE WOULD BE RIGHT. Sorry, I am just pissed off with people believeing that the item is immpossible because it uses magic in an unrealistic way, honestly you people are stupid if you think that laws to govern magic exist.

[ice_cold]

For one rangers aren't "too powerful". They hit for 20-50's max w/o spells...and even lower than 20 sometimes...Thieves can use cobalt and use their main ability, Berserkers can use cobalt and use Berserk...which is the same as rapid fire...and also hit harder...and u might say "well zerks dont have armor" even with that fact rangers only hit zerks for like 70's 80's...and every other class can use it with their normal attacks. Enchanted bows base damage was already dropped...i dont see how this bow is "too powerful" or whatever...its got lower base than eb and the vamp isnt even that much.

i hit for 50-60 on players with Facade, a crappy lvl 25 elf ranger stats 18 18 18 18 20 19. so if im hiting for 60's on players how are your arches hitting for 20-50? i have NEVER hit for 20 against any player, not even mages with AoP, with a full hit from the bow. Rangers have a 1 click ability, no reason to make them be able to 1 click someone and gain hp back from it 'just' because other classes can 1 click and gain life.

Edit: WOW!!! I just realised you said a certain something...

and every other class can use it with their normal attacks.

Yes, Every class can use the cobalt with thier normal attacks along with Rangers. I think this is a very un-thoughtout statement. a fighter can just attack with it. a cleric can just attack with (or cast spells), a mage can attack with it (or cast spells) a druid can morph and attack with it, but thats a different point, the weapon becomes part of the druid. Thieves can assassinate with it and gain life for obvious reasons. berserkers can smite or berserk with it for obvious reasons. paladins can attack with it or cast spells. So there are now 3 characters with a 1 click ability and you want to make all of them be able to vamp using that ability, thats a bad reason to okay something. and 3 classes can use a vamp weapon with 1 of thier abilities, wow, another winner to make this into a great suggestion. i mean come on, if your going to look at it that way, who dont we give all the classes the same abilities, same hp, same mp, allow them to wear the same armor and equip the same weapons, hell, while we're at it lets make everyone use the same picture and maken speak in german. Just because one class has something, doesnt mean they all do, or for that matter, any other class.

Edited by ice_cold, 02 April 2004 - 10:32 PM.

[green_mantis]

I agree with Ice_cold