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#1 Satan

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Posted 19 July 2004 - 01:03 AM

Ok, we all know it. Smite is way to overpowered. 6 stamina assassinate and u lose 20hp omg 20 out of 520.

This definately needs to be reduced or something because they can own any class now (big armor with smite, and low armor crits with beserk)

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Posted 19 July 2004 - 01:41 AM

Today in PT both my 23 dex rangers were smited(first try) while the zerkers were divine lighted...i know its luck and all..but wtf, just makes me hate zerkers more

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Posted 19 July 2004 - 01:53 PM

Thieves can still covert

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#4 Ryuku

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Posted 20 July 2004 - 05:18 AM

Thieves own. Though they need to assassinate for more PvM.

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Posted 21 July 2004 - 02:42 AM

Theives should get a new ability to help make them more unique. Berserkers ARE slightly (well, maybe not slightly), overpowered.

But berserkers don't have any armor, doesn't that make them easy even though they have lots of hp? Besides, the maximum dex they have have is 19 (without spells).

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Posted 21 July 2004 - 04:01 AM

yet they still round/click crits with 23 dex no problem

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Posted 25 July 2004 - 10:07 AM

Ok, we all know it. Smite is way to overpowered. 6 stamina assassinate and u lose 20hp omg 20 out of 520.

first off they only lose 10 hp for smiting

and thieves hit alot more often with assassinate.

smite doesnt hit very often and it pure luck to hit hard with it.

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Posted 25 July 2004 - 02:58 PM

Thieves may hit more but do you ever see them clicking arch rangers/clerics/druids. No.

6 stam assassinate needs to be brought down soem damage at this point and time they can kill anything.

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Posted 05 August 2004 - 03:23 AM

Thieves may hit more but do you ever see them clicking arch rangers/clerics/druids. No.

6 stam assassinate needs to be brought down soem damage at this point and time they can kill anything.

My Arch zerker with 509 hp (Dwarven: 21 x 18 21 12 x) got assassinated today by an arch thief.

smite dudnt hit often and rarely hits so hard


Well, ask a few select people and youll find out that my arch berserker smite (one-click also) expert perfectly healthy berserkers 75% of the time..

Berserkers do need some kind of degration, but it doesn't have to do with offense, berserkers need something like, HP lowered, Taking off the 5+ armor with a halforc, or a stamina taken off.
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Posted 05 August 2004 - 11:15 PM

anything to lower them is what they need :P
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Posted 06 August 2004 - 02:43 PM

Make em' have to be in rage mode to berserk :P, that'll lower their overpoweredness enough.

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Posted 12 August 2004 - 04:13 PM

How about the amout of damage done to the zerker when they smite is a precentage of what the acctual smite is. Like say, an eighth(yeah that's too high, but I just picked a random number) of the smite is done to you. And if the smite fails, just make it like 10 or whatever it is now. I guess it could work, but whatever.
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#13 Satan

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Posted 12 August 2004 - 04:52 PM

Scatterlee - Theres no way a 509 zerk could get clicked by a thief. The maximum damage I have ever seen was about 450 with full equips and full spells, so you must have been damaged slightly if not alot.

#14 Zeppelin

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Posted 12 August 2004 - 06:10 PM

Just frikin roll a zerker and train it...That way everyone's happy. :P

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Posted 13 August 2004 - 12:33 AM

Make em' have to be in rage mode to berserk :P, that'll lower their overpoweredness enough.

I seriously like this idea.

#16 Ryuku

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Posted 16 August 2004 - 06:13 AM

Thieves need 6stam :P

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Posted 16 August 2004 - 03:56 PM

thieves are fine

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Posted 17 August 2004 - 03:21 PM

Make em' have to be in rage mode to berserk :P, that'll lower their overpoweredness enough.

I seriously like this idea.

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#19 Rappy_Ninja

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Posted 18 August 2004 - 01:45 AM

Just frikin roll a zerker and train it...That way everyone's happy. :P

rofl just stfu

everyone shouldent have to use zerkers its a total skill-less class and its just lame
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Posted 18 August 2004 - 05:50 AM

Just frikin roll a zerker and train it...That way everyone's happy.  :P

rofl just stfu

everyone shouldent have to use zerkers its a total skill-less class and its just lame

It seems that one way or another someone feels that way towards just about every class. I don't get how you can really call it skill-less, they all are a matter of getting a decent roll, knowing who you can take out, and who you shouldn't hang out with dependent on your strengths and weaknesses. Other than that all the classes tend to come down to the skill of clicking someone elses name before they click yours and hoping you don't miss :P
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#21 Rappy_Ninja

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Posted 18 August 2004 - 02:09 PM

you dont even fight pvp so be quiet
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Posted 18 August 2004 - 08:25 PM

you dont even fight pvp so be quiet

You don't even know who I am in game. I haven't told anyone, besides this is a message board and the point is to discuss so there is no sense in being quiet.
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#23 Sublime

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Posted 26 August 2004 - 06:58 AM

Scatterlee - Theres no way a 509 zerk could get clicked by a thief. The maximum damage I have ever seen was about 450 with full equips and full spells, so you must have been damaged slightly if not alot.

No, its more than possible, Gauntlets of Virtue, Emerald Dagger, and spells a thief can click anything in game.
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Posted 27 August 2004 - 11:08 AM

Id like to see a thief do over 500 damage. If an arch dwarf thief has an emerald dagger, and up to 33 str (equip + spells) it can barely do 450 damage. Even in a shady area thats only up to 480, im seeing a bit of a problem there. To do 500 damage the theif would need to have 36 str :P and be extremely lucky.

#25 Rappy_Ninja

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Posted 27 August 2004 - 01:40 PM

granite ammy ?
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#26 Tiomat

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Posted 27 August 2004 - 06:40 PM

... wow, +1 str. so thats 34 str, out of the 36 needed? You still arnt gonna round a fully healed zerker with over 500 HP.

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Posted 05 September 2004 - 08:39 PM

thieves are awesome and zerkers are super cheater faces
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#28 joanna

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Posted 07 September 2004 - 03:33 PM

my thief did 429 with a DoS and no str mods

#29 MessiahX

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Posted 18 September 2004 - 11:35 AM

you know rappy...you say zerks are a lame and skilless class. well for a class thats so lame...you sure do complain about getting rounded by them alotl huh?

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Posted 24 November 2004 - 08:38 AM

Berserkers and thieves are fine the way they are.

Thieves can wear armors ammy's rings boots and bracletes while berserkers can only use a weapon and thats it.

they have no armor just allot of hp to balance it out.

Dont complain to Staff just because you get pwned by berserkers and you can do a dayum thing about it.




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