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[Despair]

Everytime people say a certain class is over powrered they say "a spelled up ...." is too powerful. The spell that seems to overpower all classes is righteous fury, it makes rangers and zerkers hit full deadly rounds, makes fighters and druids hit very hard etc.

I think this spell should be removed as it seems to unbalance the game a lot.

[deadman]

dis agreed the ppl saying overpowerful are just complaining bc they get beat the spell is balanced enuff.

[alone]

The spell has little purpose past that of PKing or trying to snab a boss kill.

[Angelic]

I use RF all the time when training, as does one of my acct. sharer people. I don't think it should be removed entirely, but maybe just made to give a little less to str. or hit rate?

(I just posted this so you'd know there are people who use it for things other than pking/boss killing)

[Sublime]

Yeah i use RF alot while training, since you hit harder/more often, you gain exp a little bit faster.

[Arsenal]

Yeah i use RF alot while training, since you hit harder/more often, you gain exp a little bit faster.

*nods his head in agreement*

Although, RF may be a little bit overpowered, the basic idea stands strong. Maybe making the spell add less str. or something might level the playing field for those who wish to complain or are not satisfied with the way it is now.

[Conclavia]

ah despair just wants it removed cause I spell up and pwn him with it.
no honestly it is a bit powerful although it does help when training and when dueling, but by the same respect also while pking but I guess thats the trade off. why not remove enhance too while your at it. it helps in all three of those places in a much similar way.

[kar]

no
my zerker does 120s at lvl 24 with rf,enhance, and does like 125s with rage too, dont take that joy away from me!

[Rappy_Ninja]

in a way I think zerkers are over powered I owned 2 arch zerkers at once both great stats... owned maybe 4 in my life time but I sitill think they are just a lil over powered when spelled : /



ie my ling fighter 319 hps crs gov aolp etc gets rounded with just 5 stam now thats just a lil over powered correct me if I am wrong ? o.o also I think hitting for like 140-150 on monsters with just adament is just a lil TO strong


dunno but meh I think rf shouldent effect zerkers as much

dont get me wrong rf isnt over powered but I just think that both rf and enhance shouldent be castable on a zerker at same time or maybe lower zerkers hit rate...?

Edited by Rappy_Ninja, 06 June 2004 - 09:26 PM.

[Thunderja]

No, no it shouldn't

[Evilcloud]

If you think zerks are over powered... why did u sell impulsion?? lol..
i still say they're not overpowered because of no-armor/missing alot....


Yeah sure i can round tons of peops when spelled up wit zerker...
But i can round peops spelled up wit my rangers/fighters too.

[Eamon]

As to this, I used an arch dwarf fighter with 17 dex in a duel with road_trippin (18 dex, I do believe) the other night. I hit on 9 out of 10 stam, he missed a smite with full stam, and hit me one out of 4 stam with a berzerk afterwards.

[Rappy_Ninja]

If you think zerks are over powered... why did u sell impulsion?? lol..
i still say they're not overpowered because of no-armor/missing alot....


Yeah sure i can round tons of peops when spelled up wit zerker...
But i can round peops spelled up wit my rangers/fighters too.

I sold impulsion because I perfer high defense and zerkers are boring and when useing it I felt like I was cheating


another perfect example to proove my point is other day corey zerked me just 3 tiems each landed for 110 my

Race/Class: Male Halfling Cleric. Str: 18, Int: 10, Dex: 21, Con: 18, Wis: 18, Chr: 17, Lev: 30, Exp: 249,649,622, HP: 287, MP: 319, Stm: 5.


rounded right off just 3 stamina still had half left

Calculator: 110+110+110+110+110+110 = 660


correct me if I am wrong but eeh thats impossible to live from pvp ?


rangers do max of 70 pvp on something with max armor

Edited by Rappy_Ninja, 05 July 2004 - 04:02 PM.

[Stigmata]

Posting 'duel logs' on class threads is becoming tiresome.

What exactly does it prove?

The fact that you can experiment when using alts in an arena and keep on hitting yourself until it looks overpowered enough to post?

lol.


And before you say, 'no it was someone else that hit me' - well it's bound to happen sooner or later, for all we know you could have been fighting for hours before the zerker hit you for 110 x3, you obviously had no armor spells on, and the zerker looks like it had enhance on too.

It's easy to attempt to prove a point regarding class strength, as each class in the right conditions can look to be overpowered.

[Rappy_Ninja]

Posting 'duel logs' on class threads is becoming tiresome.

What exactly does it prove?

The fact that you can experiment when using alts in an arena and keep on hitting yourself until it looks overpowered enough to post?

lol.


And before you say, 'no it was someone else that hit me' - well it's bound to happen sooner or later, for all we know you could have been fighting for hours before the zerker hit you for 110 x3, you obviously had no armor spells on, and the zerker looks like it had enhance on too.

It's easy to attempt to prove a point regarding class strength, as each class in the right conditions can look to be overpowered.

eeeh actually we were fighting around 10 minutes before it happened but still killing something with 3 stam ? I mean spelled or no spelled cmon

[Gaddy]

I'd be upset if I couldn't RF at bosses.

RF could simply be made so that it doesn't effect PvP or something, I am sure that is codeable somehow. Have it cancel being 'righteous' when you start to hit a person....makes sense to me.
I don't go to bosses and RF just to get kill, when I spell at a boss, I usually spell the whole way though. Ya, I always spell at mort, it's a habit, but that's not really a problem because so does everyone else.

The simple fact is that I can't always spare 10 stam to enhance all of my crits, but 1 stam every so often is always negotiable. So I would like RF not to be removed because I like the way it helps me.

[Rappy_Ninja]

I dont want it removed per say

just zerkers toned down then its fine

[Gaddy]

Well of course that's the way you're going to see it. You don't have zerkers and your crits get hurt by them.

I don't play zerkers, they don't fit with the stuff I do...at least not for me, others who do the same do play them.
(also don't use pallys or mages, mage only to invis, have 1 in acct....i have 0 pallys and 0 zerkers in my account..i should fix that :X)


Rangers with spells can be too strong sometimes, too. I've had mine round arch crits with good hp and good stats. I don't see have an arch crit get rounded..it's just not right imo. Even masters should be a bit tough to round.

[MessiahX]

To Rappy : You think zerks are overpowered....try killing a mage with aura of protection on. Heh...you hit like 50's and 60's if your lucky. Least thats been my experience.

and why get rid of RF? Gaia's blessing is just a watered down version and if people can't use RF they'll to go using that or Pally spells. For the record I love RF...it takes up one stamina and granted it takes some mp...but it spells up all my crits at once.

[sayadin]

nope.. leave as is

[Rappy_Ninja]

To Rappy : You think zerks are overpowered....try killing a mage with aura of protection on. Heh...you hit like 50's and 60's if your lucky. Least thats been my experience.

yes mages are over powered too but at least thieves/zerkers can click them easy

[Ryuku]

RF sucks, my rangers lvl 18, with 21 dex, RF, miss horrible.

[joanna]

Remember RF costs huge amounts of mana and only lasts 30 secs

[Da_J_Mooney]

RF makes u hit more and for more... so... ur gonna hit ppl/monsters more and for more, stop complaining when u die to a spelled zerk.... cuz it happens to everyone and the only ppl to whine are ppl with no good arch zerks.

[Crane]

The best solution is to try to avoid PKing hotspots when the server is crowded!

I have not had the privilege of getting Righteous Fury for myself yet, but I have had it cast on a few of my crits by other players. It does make a difference with strength and chance to hit, but I am assuming the mana cost for the Cleric is quite great, so it does become slightly prohibitive when it comes to training.

[Tom]

theres nothing wrong with r/f, simply if someone uses it counter it with divine light

[deadman]

Leave Rf the way it is.