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#1 Guest_Doom_*

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Posted 13 January 2006 - 08:26 PM

Few people who have been away from the game and recenetly came back, are pretty disappointed about the 20 Alt Limit, seems there are more people but just don't say much about it. Reason why I didn't put No Alt Limit, is because, lets face it, there has to be an Alt Limit otherwise the server would be very slow...

I voted on 25 Alt Limit, seems reasonable...and im not even sure if I can run that many alts..and I know alot of others who can't also, so I don't see the problem with it..but thats my opinion

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#2 Carbon

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Posted 13 January 2006 - 08:28 PM

25 Sounds ok.

#3 Paly

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Posted 13 January 2006 - 08:30 PM

i agree i would love to have 25 alts on at a time, plus it's a low enough number that it wouldn't necessarily effect the lag. Good idea Doom -pats Doom on the back-

#4 Eternyte

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Posted 13 January 2006 - 08:54 PM

There is no need to use that many alts at all. Infact it's stupid that someones ability on a game is primarily controlled by the amount of characters they can log on at any one time (or how much they can steal).

The game is easy enough as it is, there are 1800+ level 30 characters. Only level 1's have greater numbers. This is rediculous.

I want to see a 1 alt rule but this wont happen on this game because too many babies cry that they can no longer kill a single level 20 with their parties of arches. Alt abusers have destroyed the game totally.
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i agree i would love to have 25 alts on at a time, plus it's a low enough number that it wouldn't necessarily effect the lag.  Good idea Doom -pats Doom on the back-

There are 106 characters online, (35 users).

If 35 users logged on 25 chars each, there would be 875 chars online, no lag?...I think not.

Edited by Eternyte, 13 January 2006 - 08:56 PM.

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Posted 13 January 2006 - 08:57 PM

no point no one trains or runs around with 20+ alts and if u are its a waste of time because 13 fully decked out rangers and 2 clerics will do any boss in the game quite easy. only reason i would add is to do it quicker if i decided to go out... and i managed 101 alts :( and had them all at sgh then got banned by jen for no reason.
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#6 Trevayne

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Posted 13 January 2006 - 09:27 PM

no point no one trains or runs around with 20+ alts and if u are its a waste of time because 13 fully decked out rangers and 2 clerics will do any boss in the game quite easy.

Not at all true. There are many new bosses and areas where this number of arch rangers/clerics will get you a nice quick trip to your local.

I want to see a 1 alt rule but this wont happen on this game because too many babies cry that they can no longer kill a single level 20 with their parties of arches. Alt abusers have destroyed the game totally.


I play with alts because I like to explore in areas where you need that many to survive. There is no point in complaining about how this should be a one alt game... NM1 is not designed to be one and would take a complete re-write to become one. (We call that NM2.)

The areas and creatures are balanced at a reasonable level of difficulty for the 20-alt limit. If you don't want to play on that many alts, find some friends and go explore/PK/boss hunt. I see no good reason to change the alt limit.
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Posted 13 January 2006 - 09:40 PM

I would prefer 15, but 25+ seems excessive like an overeating dynamic fox. So 20 seems like a good inbetween number. But still I voted 15 for my own selfish reasons.
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#8 Perfection

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Posted 13 January 2006 - 09:44 PM

i vote 25, even though 20 is more then enough and i play on 14 at very most.. it is handy for many areas to be able to drag some covert thieves along for holding mana and so on.. when it was first change the alt limit became 30, about a week later jlh changed it once again to 20, don't know why exactly but this matter has been looked at by jlh and talked about by players

/nod Trevayne

/t Eternyte game became one of alts a long time ago, it was this way when i started and almost everyone i ran into in the begining encouraged alt use

/t Eternyte heaps of people on the server never created a problem before, i can remember times seeing well over 600 characters online, game play exactly the same (for me) as when there is 9 users online, less than 20 characters

/t Paly not Dooms idea it's been disgust before just not on forums :(
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#9 Äññöÿäñcë

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Posted 13 January 2006 - 10:48 PM

I like 25. But I voted 30. Because I clicked the wrong button... Damn.
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Posted 13 January 2006 - 11:12 PM

Wheres the 5 and 10 options :x
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#11 Sneaky

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Posted 13 January 2006 - 11:27 PM

where's the 1 option lol
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Posted 13 January 2006 - 11:32 PM

where's the 1 option lol

nm2 there working on it :(
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#13 Gaddy

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Posted 13 January 2006 - 11:41 PM

I don't see the problem with not limiting alts.
We didn't have a limit until a little while ago, and the game ran exactly how it does now.


I personally haven't used more than 16 crits except for mana thief runs, but the fact that I don't doesn't mean others should have limitations.
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#14 Guest_Doom_*

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Posted 13 January 2006 - 11:51 PM

Im glad I never added a 1, 5 Or 10 button for the reasons that Trevayne stated. The game has areas which require a good few alts to take down monsters, and another 5 alts on the current limit wouldn't do any harm, for those who don't use 20 alts I don't see why they complain.. different people have different ways of playing...and as I have more than 20 alts that i'd like to use but can't because of the limit, they are left behind, and it annoys me...

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Would like to thank those who supported it tho :(

Edited by Doom, 14 January 2006 - 12:13 AM.


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Posted 14 January 2006 - 11:31 AM

Im glad I never added a 1, 5 Or 10 button for the reasons that Trevayne stated. The game has areas which require a good few alts to take down monsters, and another 5 alts on the current limit wouldn't do any harm, for those who don't use 20 alts I don't see why they complain.. different people have different ways of playing...and as I have more than 20 alts that i'd like to use but can't because of the limit, they are left behind, and it annoys me...

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Would like to thank those who supported it tho :(

I have 100 crits I'd like to use so lets make the alt limit a 100? Doesn't quite work like that.
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Posted 14 January 2006 - 01:33 PM

15.. should even be lower.. don't need 25 just so you can use 24 zerks and a cleric ste..
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#17 Boys Night Out

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Posted 14 January 2006 - 02:29 PM

I voted 30. You only want 25 ste cause you've got oooooohhhhhhhh say... 23 zerks?
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#18 Boys Night Out

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Posted 14 January 2006 - 02:30 PM

oooooooooo... I didnt read everyones post. didnt think id need to... But tony beat me to my comment.
But... He only wants this so chris can run on 23 zerks (cause chris' pc owns) and ste runs on 6 clerics.
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#19 Squee

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Posted 14 January 2006 - 03:12 PM

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Come on; read the posts. >_>
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Posted 14 January 2006 - 03:51 PM

15... smaller the better :(

#21 Roidhun

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Posted 14 January 2006 - 05:01 PM

15 - where did those 5 and 10 buttons go? :ph34r:

TBH I've rarely played more than 12 alts at any given time.

As to areas/monsters that call for more firepower, do that awful thing called COOPERATION :(
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#22 JLH

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Posted 14 January 2006 - 05:09 PM

if anything, the alt limit will drop a bit over time
the game monsters over time have had their hp etc increased due to players using more alts.
with the alt limit (of 20) lowered by say 1 a month down to 10 (could happen, you never know), this will increase co-operation, and monster hp's could (but unlikely) be lowered to compensate
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#23 Trevayne

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Posted 14 January 2006 - 07:28 PM

I'm just curious... why do we think player cooperation is a good and necessary thing? I consider myself to be one of the friendlier folks around, but I'm much happier when I'm off training or exploring on my own. I can't log in and stay for 4-6 hours waiting for friends to have time to go out exploring, and I'm not really interested in being part of some massive clan that covers 50% of the player base.
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#24 Snoopy

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Posted 14 January 2006 - 07:49 PM

Tirentek would need to be altered if a 10 alt limit was enforced. The game would be no where near as fun with a lower alt limit, having to wait around for hours for people to log on to help with the insane boss'es in tirentek would turn into an even longer more frestrating wait if only 10 crits could log on.
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Posted 14 January 2006 - 10:47 PM

I dont see a need to have over 15 alts on at a time .... I mean by the time u get through 15 crits you stam would have been recovered from crit number 1....people just want to be able to round everything in game... for differnet reasons, perhaps they dont know how to effectivly use clerics but in any case I really dont see a need for over 15.
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#26 Roidhun

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Posted 15 January 2006 - 12:59 AM

Tirentek would need to be altered if a 10 alt limit was enforced. The game would be no where near as fun with a lower alt limit, having to wait around for hours for people to log on to help with the insane boss'es in tirentek would turn into an even longer more frestrating wait if only 10 crits could log on.

Be a bit more eclectic in your choice of companions then - after all we still have /nokill and /nopk party - I don't see the problem.
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#27 Snoopy

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Posted 15 January 2006 - 01:45 AM

at any one time there are only a few people up there at once, most of different times zones. Quite rare to bump into another player most of the time.
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#28 Roidhun

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Posted 15 January 2006 - 02:42 AM

I'll have to agree with you on the scarcity of players in Tirantek at any given time, but it should be possible to organise a party as we used to do in the old days when Chronos was a novelty - the party being composed of many people from different clans.

I stick by my thesis that anything above max. 15 alts is an uneccessary army.
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#29 Snoopy

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Posted 15 January 2006 - 01:49 PM

One other point to make, is that with a alt drop to 10, the economy would crash even further, i for one and im sure others would, sell all the equipment thats un needed. Why have 20 sets of sg's when you can only use 10 at once, every one will sell all the spare equips and crits. Would total destroy prices.
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Posted 15 January 2006 - 02:19 PM

I agree with Snoopy. Not to mention, I don't have all the time in the world to wait for people to log on either to go exploring. I play 3-4 hours (if I'm lucky) before work, and then I am on at night on eastern time when there is maybe 8 people online on my nights off. I use at the most, 13 crits.. 12 attackers, 1 mana carrier. That's it. I can't fit anymore on my screen. So 15 would be fine with me. (didn't even bother voting on the poll, just stated my opinion.)




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