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#1 Venture

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Posted 24 April 2004 - 10:57 AM

I think compared to the other classes (besides clerics) thieves are the weakest.

rangers about 100 per hit=500 max round

fighters about 80-90 per hit=540 max round

not sure on druids

mages around 80-90 per hit=450 max round

berserkers around 140 per hit=860 max round

pallys around 60-80 per hit=400 max round (not completely sure)

Thieves highest assassinates (if ur lucky) 350 max

this is taking into account they hit there full rounds and theyre spelled
what do you think?

Edited by Venture, 24 April 2004 - 10:58 AM.


#2 alone

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Posted 24 April 2004 - 12:17 PM

Had a thief do near 400 before..

And it is slightly unfair, as it's very rare to see a class do a full round with such potent hits. Whereas thieves can always hit that hard.

Edited by alone, 24 April 2004 - 12:17 PM.

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#3 The_Final_Climax

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Posted 24 April 2004 - 02:09 PM

I don't think Thiefs are weak at all, and getting the last stam at level 26 is nice. As for maybe a solo thief, still has a good chance at killing someone if they get a nice jump, however a few high lvl theifs following a druid with camo is always a deadly bunch...each class has their flaws in pretty much anything, and alts always seem to make up for it I guess, but solo, I don't think thiefs are underpowered unless they are a low level, but really, what class doesn't suck untill it can use weapons with 20+ base, and have 4+ stam?(in terms of classes that are designed for fighting, not basing this on the strength of other abilities of classes,aid..etc.)..just my little insert here.

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#4 green_mantis

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Posted 26 April 2004 - 06:55 PM

You also have to take into account race and stats. if they arent the same, the crits will hit differently.
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Posted 26 April 2004 - 11:27 PM

One must take everything into account when speaking of a class or race that is weaker or stronger than another... It all boils down to what you want to do with them, where you train them, etc. I think all in all, the classes are pretty well balanced right now personally.
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#6 Bean

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Posted 26 April 2004 - 11:33 PM

Oh come on, no they arent. Mages arent balanced in any way, shape, or form.

Other than that... OK I will agree the rest are PRETTY MUCH balanced.

Mages need help though... Like.... they really do.
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Posted 28 April 2004 - 07:09 AM

enjoi hit 450ish before, but yea they suck i dont use mine nemore, still u gotta factor the part they can steal and sneek along if u remeber the last quest(harabec vs arilin) theives owned it cause they could hide. they are fine just gotta know how to use them

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Posted 29 April 2004 - 12:42 PM

Thieves are the only class <if those not using spells> that has no chance of rounding an arch Zerker fully spelled up...

If lucky you can win a duel against an arch zerk in 2 rounds... but that requires a perfect first hit and a damn nice second... so 1on1 Thieves are pretty much useless against crits with much hp's or much AC
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Posted 29 April 2004 - 12:47 PM

My record is 424 against Hedge Lord...but i gotta say i was very impressed with the thieves as used mainly by TR in the recent war. Thieves are good as they are, definitely not underpowered, especially now that you get Ivory Dagger at level 26 as well as 5 stam.
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#10 Saito

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Posted 29 April 2004 - 08:04 PM

not really underpowered but a good thief unspelled is better then anything else unspelled really (usally hit for 250+ anyways) + they go through armor

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Posted 07 May 2004 - 08:34 PM

/me drags Venture off to the asylum

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Posted 08 May 2004 - 02:30 AM

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#13 World

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Posted 12 May 2004 - 11:51 AM

In ways there weak in other ways their not, they hit for a fair bit with 5 stam and like 98% of the time they hit wen their arch, earlier today i beat an arch fighter with my arch thief so in ways their strong, but them and zerkers r the only class that will miss full rounds, well all the other classes can miss full rounds but they more than likely hit once




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