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[ice_cold]

whats the point of making a half orc zerker? is the 1 extra point in strength and constitution really worth the heavy difference in 2 dex and 4 wisdom in the dwarves?

[alone]

So far, from what I've noticed it is worth the difference, my h-o has almost no difference in hitting (while training at the least), compared to my dwarves with 2 more dex.. THe h-o hp appears to be the only difference..

[Knine]

If you prefer Dwarf thieves over Halflings, you would most likely prefer Half-Orc Zerkers over Dwarves. As far as the wisdom goes.. I rolled Knine the day half orcs were introduced into the game, and have been on him ever since, and can't remember a single time I wished his wis could be higher. If a mage has the ballz to smack a zerker in the first place, you can bet he most likely has a few invis buddies with him, and you are going to drop, reguardless of wisdom.

[Mec]

If you prefer Dwarf thieves over Halflings, you would most likely prefer Half-Orc Zerkers over Dwarves. As far as the wisdom goes.. I rolled Knine the day half orcs were introduced into the game, and have been on him ever since, and can't remember a single time I wished his wis could be higher. If a mage has the ballz to smack a zerker in the first place, you can bet he most likely has a few invis buddies with him, and you are going to drop, reguardless of wisdom.

3 more strength and 3 more con is much more significant than just 1.

If one would prefer dwarves theives more than halfling theives, here is what I suppose the thinking is.

Halflings are rather weak, when they hit it isn't for really all that much, and of no real consequence. Also, dwarves can one-round more people than halflings, and be one-rounded by less.

On the other hand, even though half-orcs are stronger than even dwarves. They'll hardly hit anyone, (16 dex), so they're not much of a threat either.

That's what I suppose, I might be wrong. I have no thief...

...I rolled Knine the day half orcs were introduced into the game, and have been on him ever since...

I didn't know you played nightmist 24-7. No wonder you're an archie.

[Xian]

His point really was that if you prefer hitting harder but less- and also relying on hp for defence, dwarf thieves and h-o zerkers are for you. However if, like me, you prefer hitting more often and relying on dex for defence- h/ling things and dwarf zerkers.
I don't think either is better really, its just which you'd rather have and what works best with what alts/party you use.

[Knine]

/nod Xian

/t Mec I would strongly suggest gaining a bit of hands on experience with a particular class, before throwing out your oppinions on it. And if you think H-O Zerks "aren't much of a threat", then you are one of the few.. if not the only one. Tell ya what though.. catch me in game, and I'll give you a shot at some free research, and may even throw in a few one way tickets to your local Pub.

[green_mantis]

/nod Xian

/t Mec I would strongly suggest gaining a bit of hands on experience with a particular class, before throwing out your oppinions on it. And if you think H-O Zerks "aren't much of a threat", then you are one of the few.. if not the only one. Tell ya what though.. catch me in game, and I'll give you a shot at some free research, and may even throw in a few one way tickets to your local Pub.

too true; any zerker is dangerous and ones with more strength and hp are a nightmare

[Dc]

the dex does not seem to be affected when training but the +1 cons and strength show. i prefer half orcs cause of this.

[Cule]

my h/o zerk is lvl 20 now i and its hp is way over 300 cant remember exactly now ... with 16 dex it really doesnt seem to miss that much and it hits a very good too ... i hitted over 200 once on a griffin with smite ... i love halferorcers

[Mec]

/nod Xian

/t Mec I would strongly suggest gaining a bit of hands on experience with a particular class, before throwing out your oppinions on it. And if you think H-O Zerks "aren't much of a threat", then you are one of the few.. if not the only one. Tell ya what though.. catch me in game, and I'll give you a shot at some free research, and may even throw in a few one way tickets to your local Pub.

I said that's what the thinking is.

I don't have much experience with hight level crits, no, but I've spent much time on lower level characters and usually those rules apply there.

I don't do many half-orcs because the dex is just scary.

If zerkers are totally based on rounding, I would prefer to round.

I say dwarves are better, I'm probably wrong, but I say it just the same.

[Xian]

Balance at low and high levels is totally different, but in this case you're right. PvP- dwarves are just better, PvM- depends on what kind of mobs you want to kill.