59 replies to this topic

[Gaddy]

Have to admit..that's pretty true Jim.

[Ashton]

If everyone had to start at the same spot each time they logged on it would change the face of the game for the better. To many people have boss checkers, huge amounts of alts stored in areas, etc. . .

True that

[deadman]

the area should never have been changed from what it was..... ruined something and now it will rarely be used.. not like i did anyways but damn now i see that good things never last they are always ruined.

[speedy]

i wanna know how many ppl actually used this area since they put that horror hound in if anyone has even bothered

[Crane]

i wanna know how many ppl actually used this area since they put that horror hound in if anyone has even bothered

I still use the area to train. I quite enjoy playing tag with the Horror Hound.

[Muse]

Change it back

[menardi]

Change it back

/nod, whoever made it what it is mooseed it up

[Thunderja]

The tombs have been abandoned!...... Who cares, no more free rides for clerics.

[Sean]

Haha mike mooseed up.

[Crane]

Haha mike mooseed up.

I don't think so. I am not fussed if it is changed back or not, but if it is, I would not call it a failure, I call it experimentation.

[Sean]

Well it is more an annoyance than anything. This just drives the healers to the Illumi Tunnels that wasn't supposed to be a training spot in the first place.

[joanna]

ya just gotta move on, find new areas to train healers... i was one of first people to use ill tunnels, when few people knew it existed and even fewer knew vampire bats were undead. In all time it took me to arch joanna on them i never once saw anyone else training, or pking there. Now its suicide to train clerics there unless you are packing eight archthieves and wanting to fight.... even then 1) you cant use the ce/heal/move trick if ur taggin 8 thieves along, and 2) you cleric will still die before you can kill the attacking party with said 8 thieves.

Tombs were similar.... at first so few people knew about them ya could just about guarantee there would be noone pestering you, then people started to know where it was and it got crowded and there was nothing anyone could do.... stotic's lil doggy helped make that area more challenging

Just move on, and find somewhere else to train em... atm theres 3 places i know of that i train healers in, 2 of them ive never seen anyone else train there yet, and the other people used to train there ages ago, havnt seen anyone train there for over a year now though

[Stotic]

The "doggy" attack damage has been dropped to 70. I'm sure you can waste 1 stamina here and there.

[Gaddy]

Come along now Mike...that's practically nothing when players are on healers.

Players are going to whine anytime you make the places they like to train in a bit tougher, but something about a 105xpd healers section without the fear of being PK'd and getting gold back that pays for mana etc doesn't seem right.

Or wait...you've got the level 20 cap on, that makes it a bit better...at least mana thieves won't be there...still though, seems too easy.

[Trevayne]

I visited the tombs today for the first time in a long time. The hound presents a small additional difficulty, but nothing significant. In its current state, it is merely an annoyance to high level clerics and a minor inconvenience to lower levels.

I don't train clerics here (and I probably do more cleric training than anyone else in game), so it doesn't matter to me personally what happens to this area. However, I very much like the idea of there being a place that balances gold with safety.

If you agree with Gaddy that the area is still over-powered, rather than increase the strength of the hound, why not lower the gold drop of tomb spirits... perhaps even to zero gold. Make it expensive to use this safety, but still make it a viable training alternative.

[Dark]

i agree to 0 gold over having the hound

[joanna]

noone can make enough gold in tombs to even pay for thier own mana, let alone make a profit

its a well thought out exp rich gold poor monster poor area.... the doggy is there coz its soo small if it was made pkable noone will ever go there (except on fifteen archthieves and a dr00d to pk and snag mana)

As for 'just an annoyance', if your there on a cleric and thirty five level 20 thieves with mana, and it chooses to bite your cleric over said 35 thieves..... then its more than an annoyance.... ita a wasted key and another 35k to buy a d-key to get another c-key....

Edited by joanna, 15 July 2005 - 12:07 AM.

[Gaddy]

Many of us kill the bandit leader, use his key on a paci, collect 12-14 curio keys by logging that paci occasionaly, and it's pretty much one of the easier things to deal with. Key cost should not be an issue since they drop from monsters that aren't very hard.


I agree with dropping gold. Even if it's dropped to 0. I suggested that the gold be lowered, zero is harsh. I like it.

[combusta]

alright, stfu, tombs was changed, its harder, lets all get back 2 our NM training, and stfu cuz one person says something and BOOM tombs sucks nuts

so stfu and lets get back 2 training, the hound was a good addition, also the level cap stops the mana holders, so yall did enough, its not as easy. Worst comes 2 worse, evry1 will move 2 dungeons, and any1 who hates som1 enough to waste a dungeon key/maybe expensive seal to come get them then GG u deserve 2 kill me

players who want the game 2 be harder cuz they bored will always whine, ntn we can do, it just will happen. if u wanna train? make a thread saying "Perm ban Gaddy" and training will get easy again

Edited by combusta, 25 July 2005 - 07:28 AM.

[PrimeX]

gaddy u trained clerics there and u sittin here flamin bout the area bein to easy this and that, how is that? stop bein a hypocrite already

[Stotic]

What have nightmist players thought about this addition after its been in-game for awhile?

[Trevayne]

I visited the tombs today for the first time in a long time. The hound presents a small additional difficulty, but nothing significant. In its current state, it is merely an annoyance to high level clerics and a minor inconvenience to lower levels.

I don't train clerics here (and I probably do more cleric training than anyone else in game), so it doesn't matter to me personally what happens to this area. However, I very much like the idea of there being a place that balances gold with safety.

If you agree with Gaddy that the area is still over-powered, rather than increase the strength of the hound, why not lower the gold drop of tomb spirits... perhaps even to zero gold. Make it expensive to use this safety, but still make it a viable training alternative.

My comments still are accurate after forcing myself to train a cleric from 22-25 there. The hound is a nice colorful addition... it does not really make it more difficult to train there, but it does require you to pay some attention. Change the gold drop to zero and keep the hound. Harsh but safe... a good trade-off.

[Regan]

i think the hound makes it too difficult...and i dont have sucky clerics...its bad enough the tomb spirits hit for 100 or so...but the hound coming up hitting you...i dont like the change...

[Dark]

hmmm old topic revived.....

nah the hound is fine just take a second cleric to keep you healed or somthing also handy if you heal one too many times.....

[Stigmata]

I'd just like to say - i wish staff would pay more attention to the monster exp currently in game - I went through every single monster while i was on staff to make sure you didn't gain big exp close to safe spots, and had to work hard to find good training places (I'm assuming the admin still agree with this). Having an area that is nopk, with 105xpd is silly, especially if you had to cap it to actually stop people below level 20 reaching it! (try getting a level 20 to the gnome caves which I thought was the best place to train clerics exp wise until now at about 90xpd).

Also I agree with momba, everyone should start from town when they log off to make the game generally fairer for all.

[Lightning]

Id agree, no log spots, everyone back to the crit local once done, would make it more challenging and harder to horde things

[Lightning]

I meant no log spots ingame full stop. Make it so people cant camp things, make it challenging

[Stotic]

with 105xpd is silly

incorrect

[combusta]

lol, gnome caves is actually like 100-105pod, but anyway, torturers ##### all anyway, and/or imhotep w/ the +10healing(but u try training off him)