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[newb]

I think I would be happy without a sex drive during my early years. Most decent girls don't have any desire for sex, anyways. Not until they are older.

[Stotic]

Thanks for that staggering lession Two. Think about this...again. If you're a man walking down a lonely city black at night you fear getting beat up. If you're a women you fear getting raped. I don't recall the last time I was scared of getting raped.

[newb]

Well, if you are a guy that looks really feminine you might be.

[An Eskimo]

3.  they can manipulate men with sexual pleasures to get whatever they want

but that there says that girls have it easier.

[Medora]

Trully revolting discussion. No one person in this world has it any easier than anyone else. We all have trials and situations we have to work through and overcome. We all have hardships. Maybe someone elses problems seem minor to you, but they are devastating for them, thus making them equal in their impact on the individual. If you held this conversation, leaving stereotypes of the sexes out of it, there would be no basis for discussion. Easier to understand: Without the "men are stronger, woman can manipulate" stuff left out, there is no argument.

Something that my grandmother told me as a younger girl will stick with me throughout my whole life. I wont go into details as to what brought the conversation on, aside from the fact being that its a personal thing, it doesnt relate to the topic. Comment below

Everyone has a heart that pumps blood through their body.
Everyone is born into this world one way or another.
Everyone dies.


No one in this world is better than anyone else, or has it harder than anyone else. We are all equals in our own way. We are human, we have our good times, our bad times, and our trials. If you honestly think someone has it easier than you, try walking a mile in their shoes.

And thats my opinion.

[deadman]

Very Well said medora no1 really does have it easier than any1 else we are all equal to each other.

[Deval]

Except for me, cus I'm like kick ass hey?...

[newb]

As bad as it is, not everybody is an equal in this world. On a human level, yes, we are equal, we are humans. On the more important level, of life, not everyone is so fortunate. Oppression, living conditions, religion etc.

"Some people are a little more equal than others".

[Deval]

There's a couple of things I've learned
On the many roads I've taken
Flames are not what get you burned
It's the cold and the ice
Here's a piece of advice
I got from a little bird
The flames can get you
Stirred
It's the cold that leaves you shaken

I don't like to philosophize
I just want to tell a story
Always leave when a woman cries
Never look in a woman's eyes
You'll get stuck with a high and rising fever
And then you can't leave her
Please, don't wait man
It's almost too late man

She cries and you want to hold her
She lies and you want to run away
But just give her a minute
I promise you're in it to stay

She smiles and you'll stay forever
She screams
Well, that's the price you pay
But there's no one can make you
Forget how you feel
For all she can take
You've got more there to steal
So you don't mind a bit of surprise
And she cries

I don't like to admit I'm wrong
I believe in guts and glory
But it's time I should change my song
I've been here just a bit too long
Always thought I was much too strong for hating
And still I keep waiting...

And while I'm resolving
That door keeps revolving
She cries and you want to hold her
She lies and you're half way out the door
But you never can do it
She'll make you go through it once more

She smiles and you'll stay forever
She sings
Oh, she's got you now for sure
And each time that you swear
That you will not give in
She'll throw you a stare
That'll show you can't win
It's amazing how hard each man tries
But she cries

All of a sudden
You fall for her charms
You promise you'll stop all her tears
All of sudden
She's back in your arms
And the walls start closing
And blocking out the light
And changing all your dreams
And right before your eyes

She cries
And I don't know the answer
She spies
And there's no place I can hide
When I look in the mirror,
There's nothing but fear here inside
I run
And still she is right behind me
I fall
The chasm is too wide

So I'm stuck in this world of her magic mystique
Where I'll never be more than her toy of the week
But each time I prepare my goodbyes
Well, she catches me looking
And she opens the floodgates

And she cries...

[S3it0*]

Trully revolting discussion. No one person in this world has it any easier than anyone else. We all have trials and situations we have to work through and overcome. We all have hardships. Maybe someone elses problems seem minor to you, but they are devastating for them, thus making them equal in their impact on the individual. If you held this conversation, leaving stereotypes of the sexes out of it, there would be no basis for discussion. Easier to understand: Without the "men are stronger, woman can manipulate" stuff left out, there is no argument.

Something that my grandmother told me as a younger girl will stick with me throughout my whole life. I wont go into details as to what brought the conversation on, aside from the fact being that its a personal thing, it doesnt relate to the topic. Comment below

Everyone has a heart that pumps blood through their body.
Everyone is born into this world one way or another.
Everyone dies.


No one in this world is better than anyone else, or has it harder than anyone else. We are all equals in our own way. We are human, we have our good times, our bad times, and our trials. If you honestly think someone has it easier than you, try walking a mile in their shoes.

And thats my opinion.

quite right Kimmi, i read the first maybe 3posts and found it to be rather pathetic and childish... cmon, sexism is wrong. take this 'classic' quote for example

'sure god created man before women, but then you always make a rough draft copy before the final masterpiece'

<sarcasm>boy, i think thats --so funny--, makes me want to go out and change sex</sarcasm>

as bad as this sounds, i think you will find that most people who are 'with' sexism so to speak are more vain than anything else, or maybe they just think that they arent as good as one another and try and point out pathetically small differences to somehow make themselves feel better about themselves, when i dont think that they think about how it is hurting other people..

heres something to think about when thinking who is 'better' than the other

Females need Males to reproduce and keep themselves alive, Males need Females to reproduce and keep themselves alive.. it takes two to tango, without eachother we are screwed.. also, if one is better than the other, how come the 'worse' one wasnt 'deleted' from creation?

sorry if this all sounded rude or shiznity, just i am 100% against sexism, i find it totally childish and wrong.. its just like racism... or anything else that people make up to make themselves feel stronger than one another..as i said sorry if it sounded rude or w/e, i think its best if i not visit this thread anymore and get all worked up over this topic

[newb]

But for reals though, I think I would have been happier as a girl.

[Deval]

We could have held hands n stuff.

[newb]

I love you, Deval.

[two]

i think the thread was intended with entertainment in mind, and if not, half the people mooseed up. i took it to make a point, most definitely went too far, but steroetypes were supposed to be brought up, in the most lighthearted of fasion.

who honeslty believes that one race/sex/creed has it better? stop taking everything so seriously, i know that not every guy takes a seven minute shower, and there are better girl drivers than even me (I'll never admit it in public!). it's a tongue-in-cheek joke that supposed to make us laugh, maybe some of us learned something. get over yourself dali-lama, and try to not get disgusted at every little thing, and have some fun. i'm and ass, yeah i know, but lighten up for god's sake. make fun of yourself as well as the quircky little things we do, and be human like the rest of us.

in the meantime, we'll be laughing it up.

[SouthernBelle]

I do think males have it easier because they tend to have more of a 'I don't care what you think about me' attitude. As spoken before about women having to eat certain foods while men eat anything because they don't worry about gaining weight.. this is sometimes the case, but women don't HAVE to choose to eat a veggie instead of ice cream or sweets... believe me.. I'd choose the ice cream over the carrots.. but thats me... And it's a hugh plus that men do not have to give birth.. the thought of squeezing a baby out is scary... specially the thought that my cousin just had a baby that was (i believe) around 10 pounds and 12 oz .... big baby... thats scary heh....

Edited by SouthernBelle, 25 February 2004 - 11:12 PM.

[Deval]

men eat anything because they don't worry about gaining weight..

That is such rubbish. I gained 7kg over the holidays because of what I was eating, which I quickly took off again once I started back at class.

[Bean]

Well... Some males need to gain weight really...

For example, a football player would eat massive quantities of food to gain 'bulk' while working out to turn that 'bulk' into muscle. Thats pretty much the only example besides a sumo wrestler I can think of that a guy WOULDNT worry about gained weight.

Oh and deval, Where is that.... uh song/poem (not sure which) from? or whats it called. I like it.

PERSONALLY, I think guys have it worse. I have no real logical reasoning I can think of right now, I just think guys have it worse.

But then again I AM a guy, so that may be a biased opinion (If you dont know im getting somewhere with this, your officially slow) And well, Any women that have posted on this post ARE women, so they are biased too.... So we either need a uni-sexed person's opinion, OR we need someone opinion who is neither for a TOTALLY unbiased opinion... We arent going to find someone like that anytime soon, so lighten up and dont take everything so seriously...

Thanks.

[S3it0*]

I do think males have it easier because they tend to have more of a 'I don't care what you think about me' attitude.

preference.. purely preference, it is NOT a genetic thing that makes a male not care about himself, it is preference. You too can 'not care' if you choose to

[Bean]

Exactly.

You gotta get laid back, and not care about things as much by the looks of it anyhow.

[Deval]

Beans avatar rocks

[Deval]

Oh and deval, Where is that.... uh song/poem (not sure which) from? or whats it called. I like it.

'She Cries' from Songs for a New World, written by Jason Robert Brown, best performance of it IMO by Brooks Ashmanskas.

My sig is also from teh same show, 'I'd Give It All For You'.
Well, the whole soundtrack totally rocks IMO. Now I'ma have to go listen to it again.

Download it if you have an open mind to music and can actually shy away from modern day commercialist horse sh1t.

[Hatchet Crew]

I agree that every man/woman has there own road... the road has twists and turns ups and downs. No one has the same road yet at the same time i belive that for every up there is a down for every turn there is a strait. I maybe be said what has been said but this is how i see it. Yes sum people live in the streets and what not. Sum people live in mansions. Still the man in the mansion has it no easyer or harder. Also i know this was said already but what is bad to you maybe gravy to somone else because they are much more firmiler with teh situation or what ever and so u really can't say that this person has it worse because to them it might not be so bad. Every person can be, do, feel how they want to about what they want to. As long as you make the best of the life that was givin to you then you are no more better nor lesser than anyone else.

[Bean]

If I cant find that song deval you have to send it to me... I love the lyrics too much to not listen to it!! you hear me!! I CANT!!!

Sorry....

[Zelimos]

[alone]

Sorry.. Bit on-topic here ()..

Not sure if it's already been said or not, but I believe:
Each person brought into this world, is given nothing more than they can survive and aren't made to do anything they're unable to achieve.

I found a quote from the bible concerning that exact thing also, but I've lost it now Oh well..

[Deval]

If I cant find that song deval you have to send it to me... I love the lyrics too much to not listen to it!! you hear me!! I CANT!!!

Sorry....

Abbasomolutely!

(Have I added you to MSN?)

[Bean]

Nope.

lonely2122@hotmail.com

Cant find it anywhere.... Kazaa sucks pretty harsh now cause everyone is afraid to use it....

[Deval]

It's definately out there, keep looking on Kazaa, someone will eventually have it. Try searching by the song name, if that yields nothings, then try searching by 'Songs for a New World

[Darkling]

I know this is slightly off topic and i probs should say it but, bak to that man rape thing. Its not possible to rape a guy cause they are pretty much all willing, and if they arent... just stick a metal splint in it.

Edited by Darkling, 27 February 2004 - 04:02 AM.

[Deval]

I know this is slightly off topic and i probs should say it but, bak to that man rape thing. Its not possible to rape a guy cause they are pretty much all willing, and if they arent... just stick a metal splint in it.

Don't be ignorant. I don't understand how 99% of Nightmist can be spastic enough to not realise that there is no such thing as rape on a man other than anally. Jeeze.

Edited by Deval, 27 February 2004 - 04:12 AM.