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(Message started by: Stodge on 06/08/03 at 15:05:16)

Title: Devastate
Post by Stodge on 06/08/03 at 15:05:16
Whats happening with the Spell Devastate
can we get it yet?

Is it going to be a quest item?

Title: Re: Devastate
Post by Jurian on 06/08/03 at 15:07:47
it's going to be a boss drop in a new area that's still beeing developed :D

Title: Re: Devastate
Post by Bobbity on 06/08/03 at 15:11:03
I believe that a couple of monsters in this area are Whiptongue Lizard and Dark-Elf Sorceror. Very hard. :P

Title: Re: Devastate
Post by AlliedAssault on 06/10/03 at 16:29:03
Im sure when its available it will be noticed.

Title: Re: Devastate
Post by Zephie on 06/13/03 at 10:54:20
and hopefully will get tweaked some  :P

Title: Re: Devastate
Post by Harath on 06/13/03 at 11:06:20
Yeah.. having loads of arch mages running around with an un-tweaked Devastate would hurt.

Title: Re: Devastate
Post by King o Sausage on 06/15/03 at 23:19:18
If it's a boss drop maybe make it like a weekly 50% drop..?

Title: Re: Devastate
Post by Halo on 06/16/03 at 16:31:42
Or not?

Mages suck enough they should be able to take parties alone, they're magic should be very powerful.

Title: Re: Devastate
Post by Belgarion on 06/16/03 at 17:54:00
Yeah, cause of their difficulty to train, they should'nt be "balanced" with other classes, they shud be better.  Obviously not too overpowered, but u get what i mean  :P

Title: Re: Devastate
Post by Harath on 06/16/03 at 18:39:14
Don't want to make them too powerful, taking out entire partys on there own shouldn't be possible, unless your an arch mage with every armour slot filled, and devestate.. even then I think that might be to over powered.

Title: Re: Devastate
Post by Cupcake on 06/16/03 at 23:43:30
a mage with devastate can take out a party alone....ive done it numerous times....just look out for the covert thief...thats a pregnant dog

Title: Re: Devastate
Post by Halo on 06/17/03 at 08:15:40
Should be able to with beam though really...but it just gets resisted too much, has a fizzle now and again, or it counterspells on another mage, and its useless.

Title: Re: Devastate
Post by Harath on 06/17/03 at 08:29:24
Mage's seem pretty useless actually.. I've been thinking about it. They can't have their spell damage increased by enhance/RF, so they always do the normal 55 on players (average). That isn't enough to round anything, and with the resists (sometimes counter spells if your fighting a mage) that means they can't round anything, and stand a small chance of killing something (person just drinks a few pots) While taking quite a lot of damage unless you have 1.8 mills worth of items, which not everyone does.

Title: Re: Devastate
Post by Halo on 06/17/03 at 23:05:59
Yes, i agree, and the fact of holding 4 potions for healing, not having a cleric, needing 10 adv/mana crystals as you will run out fast, 140-160 armour, isnt that high really, Taking parties with that is impossible, with Devastate you could not take three archmasters of ANY class.

Mages -are- inseek of something...I don't know what, but, maybe more HP even.. as it would balance them, as they can't do anything..

Title: Re: Devastate
Post by Cupcake on 06/18/03 at 00:15:26

on 06/17/03 at 23:05:59, Halo wrote:
Yes, i agree, and the fact of holding 4 potions for healing, not having a cleric, needing 10 adv/mana crystals as you will run out fast, 140-160 armour, isnt that high really, Taking parties with that is impossible, with Devastate you could not take three archmasters of ANY class.


Mages with devastate can take out 3 archamsters...ive done it plenty of times...

Title: Re: Devastate
Post by Harath on 06/18/03 at 17:23:50
I doubt that.

Title: Re: Devastate
Post by Halo on 06/18/03 at 23:30:23
Wanna take my three archmasters?

Title: Re: Devastate
Post by Cupcake on 06/19/03 at 08:31:36
depends what they are....and you knowing that im coming makes it easier...with the element of suprise i can drop the first one with a quickness...the other two wont be so difficult after that.

Title: Re: Devastate
Post by Bean on 06/19/03 at 21:15:10
A certain amount of that is that fact that the person usually panics a bit after one char is dropped before they can blink

Title: Re: Devastate
Post by Halo on 06/19/03 at 22:50:22

on 06/19/03 at 08:31:36, Cupcake wrote:
depends what they are....and you knowing that im coming makes it easier...with the element of suprise i can drop the first one with a quickness...the other two wont be so difficult after that.



Ok, i'll sit in challenge arena with Three Archmaster Rangers and i dunno when your coming in, jump me please, Cause you WONT beat me.

Title: Re: Devastate
Post by Cupcake on 06/20/03 at 06:05:29
you fight me with 3 rangers and ill win for sure...you wont hit me for more than 25...given i dont run out of magic

Title: Re: Devastate
Post by King o Sausage on 06/20/03 at 08:54:17
Enough talk about it already. Just battle, post it, and shut up. Please.

Title: Re: Devastate
Post by Cupcake on 06/20/03 at 10:55:23
You know who I am ingame...contact me whenever youre ready.

Title: Re: Devastate
Post by Harath on 06/20/03 at 15:41:43

on 06/20/03 at 06:05:29, Cupcake wrote:
you fight me with 3 rangers and ill win for sure...you wont hit me for more than 25...given i dont run out of magic


25 each hit?

25 * 15 = 375

Enough to kill you :) Even if they miss they then have the next round of at least two to kill you with.

Title: Re: Devastate
Post by Bobbity on 06/20/03 at 17:36:37
How much mana does Devastate use up every time its cast?

Title: Re: Devastate
Post by alone on 06/20/03 at 17:51:38

on 06/20/03 at 15:41:43, Harath wrote:
25 each hit?

25 * 15 = 375

Enough to kill you :) Even if they miss they then have the next round of at least two to kill you with.


Not if one's dropped before he knows :P

EDIT: What does Devistate do on average..?

Title: Re: Devastate
Post by Cupcake on 06/20/03 at 19:48:56
devastate uses 25 mp each time and will hit for mid to upper 70s on a crit with 18 wisdom

Title: Re: Devastate
Post by Halo on 06/22/03 at 03:18:01
I will page you in-game.

Title: Re: Devastate
Post by Halo on 06/22/03 at 04:42:57
Milagros was resurrected here, after being killed by Integrity.



Oh...umm you lost!


Milagros Pages You from Viper Street (Nightmist): duel me 1 on 1 and see who wins

Title: Re: Devastate
Post by Cupcake on 06/22/03 at 05:37:36
yeah i lost...3 arch rangers..at least it shows i have the balls to fight, unlike you. First of all you had me macroed...and it was even you who paged me saying it was too laggy. Lemme use your own excuse. I walked in not knowing who i would be fighting. Dont forget i dropped you as well...

Title: Re: Devastate
Post by Halo on 06/22/03 at 17:45:27
Yeah illum has creme de la creme on ally, so you killed one and i had to move, and then when we re-dueled i killed you, you killed one of my cris.

Title: Re: Devastate
Post by Cupcake on 06/23/03 at 10:03:18
even after we dueled the second time i still killed a second one...

Title: Re: Devastate
Post by Sausage on 06/23/03 at 10:12:23
Ok, am I understanding this right that it is Cupcakes ONE Archmaster Mage with Devestate vs Richs 3 Archmaster Rangers?

Title: Re: Devastate
Post by Bane on 06/23/03 at 16:46:01

on 06/20/03 at 06:05:29, Cupcake wrote:
you fight me with 3 rangers and ill win for sure...you wont hit me for more than 25...given i dont run out of magic




Yes, but read the first line Sausage!

Title: Re: Devastate
Post by Cupcake on 06/23/03 at 21:05:00
Oh and rich....lets try and not forget to mention you werent the only one on those 3 crits :)   thought id let you know that im not as dumb as you look....

Title: Re: Devastate
Post by Bane on 06/23/03 at 22:36:29
Hm, i'll see if i can get JLH to check if i was on them all and i will get him to post here, and i will prove you wrong. You lost, have a very nice nice day!

Title: Re: Devastate
Post by Cupcake on 06/23/03 at 23:16:06
Id be willing to bet you 1mil that you couldnt do it again...you up for that challenge?

Title: Re: Devastate
Post by Bane on 06/24/03 at 15:42:39
I will do it as long as Staff are there to confirm you have to give me one million gold if i win and i dont have to give you anything if i lose do ? Cause otehrwise no, as there is a huge chance i will lose.

But if a staffie is there to confirm it, okay.

Title: Re: Devastate
Post by Belgarion on 06/24/03 at 18:18:42

on 06/19/03 at 22:50:22, Halo wrote:
Ok, i'll sit in challenge arena with Three Archmaster Rangers and i dunno when your coming in, jump me please, Cause you WONT beat me.


You seemed pretty confident he wont win in that post, but in ur last you said theres a pretty big chance? lol.  And in a bet arent both sides supposed to put something in... ::)

Title: Re: Devastate
Post by Bane on 06/24/03 at 18:27:33
* shrugs.
Whatever.
Im not putting anything in!

Title: Re: Devastate
Post by Harath on 06/24/03 at 19:06:47
Just do another duel, with a staff member watching to make sure its fair (and that its one character on all three rangers). I'm sure theres one staff member out there willing to do this.

Title: Re: Devastate
Post by Cupcake on 06/24/03 at 20:58:14
the fact that he wont put in 1mil pretty much proves there was two people controlling the rangers, cause if there wasnt, he should have no problems betting....scared to lose a fair fight this time...

Title: Re: Devastate
Post by Mip on 06/24/03 at 21:03:33
oh wow I don't understand this little "feud" you're having. Even if he couldn't take out 3 of your rangers he at least got one. I know most mages wouldn't even get a full round in if he/she was pitted against those odds. I say just the fact that he survived more than 2 seconds proves his and his crits worth.

...also, aren't we getting a bit off topic?

Title: Re: Devastate
Post by Bane on 06/24/03 at 21:48:57

on 06/24/03 at 20:58:14, Cupcake wrote:
the fact that he wont put in 1mil pretty much proves there was two people controlling the rangers, cause if there wasnt, he should have no problems betting....scared to lose a fair fight this time...



Im going to prove you wrong and get JLH to check this for me. :). Have a Very nice day you ****ing retard.

Title: Re: Devastate
Post by Bane on 06/24/03 at 21:49:52

on 06/24/03 at 21:03:33, Mip wrote:
oh wow I don't understand this little "feud" you're having. Even if he couldn't take out 3 of your rangers he at least got one. I know most mages wouldn't even get a full round in if he/she was pitted against those odds. I say just the fact that he survived more than 2 seconds proves his and his crits worth.

...also, aren't we getting a bit off topic?



Thats cause only one mage has Devestate, lol. Otherwise he wouldn't kill one crit.

Title: Re: Devastate
Post by -Gaddy- on 07/01/03 at 11:39:11
I think if one arch class can take on 3 arch anythings and say they are going to win with confidence means that the class is over powered, although only milagros has devestate i suppose...i think it'll need to deal less damage when tons of mages have it, otherwise party of 3 arch mages with it will just walk around and take out parties of anything, i mean..you add in suprise to this and you've got them taking out 9 archies..and that is rangers! think what happens to zerkers, fighters, and thieves with this kind of stuff...thats just not very reasonalbe, one think i think would help mages owuld be to have their invis last longer since camo by druids lasts about 3 times as long as invis.

Title: Re: Devastate
Post by xcelon on 02/02/04 at 12:51:23
What will Devastate actually do  ??? Does it destroy everything on the square or what?

Title: Re: Devastate
Post by CPG on 02/02/04 at 17:09:40
It's a damage spell, like shock, flame, blast etc.

You click something and it does damage.

Title: Re: Devastate
Post by Xcelon on 02/02/04 at 19:25:25
oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo Will it destroy everybody in the square or will it just do more damage then beam?  ???

Title: Re: Devastate
Post by CPG on 02/03/04 at 00:34:39
Just damage to one person. It does more damage than beam.

Title: Re: Devastate
Post by Snowy on 02/08/04 at 18:32:35
Mages should be able to kill some zerkers/fighters because they re so easier to train, but not rangers, not as many anyways.

Title: Re: Devastate
Post by Diagonyte on 02/09/04 at 15:29:13
DEvs a good spell and the damage shouldnt be touched every class has strengths and weakness's thats what makes the game so fun if you dont want ur zerker or figher or any class to fall get pounded then roll good wis its simple really, mages terribly suck and dev would greatly help them out but with clerics healling for 70+ i think its pretty well balanced and i full heartedly agree that a arch mage shoul be able to take out whole parties cause its hell to train them wheres the fun in them the best think ive seen a mage do is invis a party who only comes out and mangles a party ...its all element of surprise and makes the game more fun annoying when it happens to you but it ultimatly makes the game more fun.
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