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3 stamina and blast coming together?
« on: 06/22/03 at 09:19:10 » |
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A memo from Admetus on 06-22-2003 09:07:39 saying mages should be able to learn blast at lvl 18 because thats when their stamina increases to 3and flame is just not good enough for use at lvl 18 and these mages take forevvvvvvvver to lvl past 15 w/ flame. plz change the game so mages can use blast at lvl 18..
I don't generally read this section so I don't know if this is already here somewhere but voice your opinions 
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Jurian
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Re: 3 stamina and blast coming together?
« Reply #1 on: 06/22/03 at 11:21:09 » |
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i say instead of giving blast at a lower lvl they should get their third stam a lil earlier. if you want to change anything that is. mages are fine after lvl 15/18 
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Re: 3 stamina and blast coming together?
« Reply #2 on: 06/22/03 at 17:46:21 » |
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Leave it, Mages are meant to be a challenge.
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Re: 3 stamina and blast coming together?
« Reply #3 on: 06/22/03 at 17:54:51 » |
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True, but at the moment whats the reward for completing this challenge?
Low hp? Expensive to use/train? Mediocre damage with fizzle/resist/partial resist/counterspell? Being out spelled by a druid? (aop vs druid armor spells and druids 50 dam stormwrath at lvl 10).
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Re: 3 stamina and blast coming together?
« Reply #4 on: 06/23/03 at 03:56:24 » |
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Leave the mages challenging to lvl, but bring back Vamparic Touch at starting level 15 improving pr lvl up to a total of maybe 50 dam at lvl 30. That way I think a mage at high lvl could still be rounded, but not EVERY time.
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Re: 3 stamina and blast coming together?
« Reply #5 on: 06/23/03 at 16:36:23 » |
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on 06/23/03 at 03:56:24, Roidhun wrote:| That way I think a mage at high lvl could still be rounded, but not EVERY time. |
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A mage when spelled, should NEVER be rounded by a single crit. Do you think an Archmaster magic user is just a shmuck with a wand?
Mages should be difficult to train, and should be supreme at high level's. However, they arent at the moment. In fact they are just plain useless. Hopefully in the near future something will be done. *fingers crossed*
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Re: 3 stamina and blast coming together?
« Reply #6 on: 06/23/03 at 18:37:30 » |
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on 06/23/03 at 16:36:23, Eternyte wrote:
A mage when spelled, should NEVER be rounded by a single crit. Do you think an Archmaster magic user is just a shmuck with a wand?
Mages should be difficult to train, and should be supreme at high level's. However, they arent at the moment. In fact they are just plain useless. Hopefully in the near future something will be done. *fingers crossed* |
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hmm this is one of the few times i agree with you (and not to confuse you ppl, the part where i said mages were fine after lvl 18 is meant for training, i do think they are able to make decent exp after lvl 18 it's jsut expensive )
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Re: 3 stamina and blast coming together?
« Reply #7 on: 06/25/03 at 02:05:59 » |
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on 06/23/03 at 16:36:23, Eternyte wrote:
A mage when spelled, should NEVER be rounded by a single crit. Do you think an Archmaster magic user is just a shmuck with a wand? |
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No, but neither do I think that ANY magic user, even at lvl 30 should be immortal and/or unbeatable. (Which, it seems to me, would be the case, if mages were uncritically spelled up to near the pre-reset level).
But then again, I see from other posts, that our opinions are not that far apart 
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Re: 3 stamina and blast coming together?
« Reply #8 on: 06/25/03 at 06:38:49 » |
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on 06/23/03 at 18:37:30, Jurian wrote: jsut expensive
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no kidding after lvl 25 mages just eat through mana 
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Re: 3 stamina and blast coming together?
« Reply #9 on: 07/07/03 at 04:46:24 » |
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training yes they eat up mana but theres a cheap way to train a mage - train near a inn like in dedenya and kill hedges, then refresh in the inn for 100 - cheapest way and effective
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Re: 3 stamina and blast coming together?
« Reply #10 on: 07/07/03 at 16:17:51 » |
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right near an inn. hmm someone tell me where a good inn is hwere i can get stam in desert? the jahanna one is kinda scrwed
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« Reply #11 on: 07/07/03 at 17:45:48 » |
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don't go to the desert then.. is it REALLY that hard?
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Re: 3 stamina and blast coming together?
« Reply #12 on: 07/07/03 at 18:10:55 » |
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cmon lol i'm not gonna change my place of training jsut cuz of it beeing sooooo darn expensive of training a mage
it's just expensive to train a mage if you can't accept that then don't train a mage lol
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Re: 3 stamina and blast coming together?
« Reply #13 on: 07/07/03 at 18:49:13 » |
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Jurian, did it ever occure to you that your not the only person living in this world? Just because you don't like something, or you prefer to do something your own way, doesn't mean others agree with you.
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Re: 3 stamina and blast coming together?
« Reply #14 on: 07/07/03 at 19:15:01 » |
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on 07/07/03 at 18:10:55, Jurian wrote:
it's just expensive to train a mage if you can't accept that then don't train a mage lol |
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I so agree on that
I think its hard to train a thief can u plz do it so that it gives 1 million xp per POD, c'mon mages are this way just leave them, or will JLH give a refund to all those Mages out there who did lvl it with the amount of mana/gold needed
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Re: 3 stamina and blast coming together?
« Reply #15 on: 07/11/03 at 21:12:04 » |
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Currently using my mage i have found that resistance levels seem too be higher. Maybe its just me. I think the thing mages need is a mana restoring spell . Something like this:
Mana Absorb- Takes All 5 stamina and restores a mages mana. This does not over power them due to the fact that in the time it takes them to get their stamina back they will be getting attacked.
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Re: 3 stamina and blast coming together?
« Reply #16 on: 07/11/03 at 22:44:54 » |
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on 07/11/03 at 21:12:04, AlliedAssault wrote:Currently using my mage i have found that resistance levels seem too be higher. Maybe its just me. I think the thing mages need is a mana restoring spell . Something like this:
Mana Absorb- Takes All 5 stamina and restores a mages mana. This does not over power them due to the fact that in the time it takes them to get their stamina back they will be getting attacked. |
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Sounds nice for training 
Dont think it will be added though
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Re: 3 stamina and blast coming together?
« Reply #17 on: 07/13/03 at 06:20:55 » |
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Well i wasnt exactly saying for training i was thinking maybe a possible boss drops a scroll of mana absorb. It would only be able to be used by mages lvl 30 as well. Kinda a bonus at arch. I would much rather see this occur then see devestate become an every mage thing. Honestly i would rather one person have that spell; as it name describs it is supposed to devestate the opponent not be 5-10 point higher then beam.
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Re: 3 stamina and blast coming together?
« Reply #18 on: 07/15/03 at 21:50:57 » |
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hey oracle thnx i didn't kno my suggestion would actually have a chance lol my mage is lvl 23 now but it still hard as hell to get any good decent exp especially with all these stupid 385 hp zerkers running around lol
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Re: 3 stamina and blast coming together?
« Reply #19 on: 09/09/03 at 19:21:18 » |
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I think mages are fine the way they are EXCEPT mana consumption. Whens the last time a mage has won a mosh? Theyre the hardest hitting class, and with aura Theyve got the best defense. But noones enters moshes with them... Why? cause of mana consumption... It takes 80 mana just to cast aura and haste... then 17 mana per beam.. so if u casted aura, haste and a full 5 round of beams = 164 mana consumption... thats more than a crystal and a half for one round..
Anyone see what im sayin or am i just ramblin on?
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