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Title: Thieves are not Thieves. Post by Everlast on 12/30/03 at 11:35:01 I don't know for sure about everyone in game, however not a single person in any clan i've ever been in has ever really used steal to steal from people. You steal from monsters, thats just training or making quick gold by pissing off desert trainers. I think that the ability 'steal' should be changed. Make it steal more from people and miss less often or something. A few of us were having a disscussion where we all pretty much agreed they ought to be able to- See what people have in their inventory. See how much gold a person/monster is carrying. Steal items in inventories. (this one is a tad tricky) Problems with stealing items are basically- People sitting at a boss waiting for it to be killed, then stealing right away from them. That would be idiotic. I think it is reaonable to say that most people don't leave town with expensive items in their inventories. If they do maybe they need them to be stolen to teach them not to. Personally, I would probably still just kill people if i were going to steal from them. That is why i think 'steal' should miss FAR less on crits. Anyone else have this problem where they attack people and the people log so ****ing fast you lag a little from the pic changes in your alts' boxes? That is where this would be helpful, an actual thief instead of an assassin. Steal without being noticed so people wont log or run away, or even have a d**n clue whats up til it is far too late, unless they're paying attention well (when successful they should not be told they've been stolen from). Please read the whole post before flamming me. I realize people have disputed item theft in the past, and for good reasons. However, I think it should be- Make thieves stealing abilities effective. or Re-name the class as Assassins. |
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Title: Re: Thieves are not Thieves. Post by CPG on 12/30/03 at 19:34:17 You could get some nice opinions on this from dognapot. I think it would be really cool to make them a solo class. Since when do 5+ loners by nature go around in parties? You can't assassinate someone effectively with a lot of people in the room. The only way I can see justifying the stealing from inventory is if they were a solo class. Otherwise, it would just be ridiculous. I agree that stealing from players is extremely hard. The payoff usually isn't worth it. You get seen far too much. Also, on the issue of stealing, I think that all bosses should be non-stealable. |
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Title: Re: Thieves are not Thieves. Post by Stotic on 12/30/03 at 20:14:51 I agree with Gaddy on everything he said. |
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Title: Re: Thieves are not Thieves. Post by Everlast on 12/31/03 at 00:54:42 on 12/30/03 at 20:14:51, Stotic wrote:
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Title: Re: Thieves are not Thieves. Post by Sausage on 01/03/04 at 05:29:42 on 12/30/03 at 20:14:51, Stotic wrote:
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Title: Re: Thieves are not Thieves. Post by dognapot on 01/04/04 at 01:07:54 people don't steal now because of several reasons. 1. they can't steal alot. you only get a little bit of what's in a guy's pockets. 2. you can't steal often. you can only steal a handfull of times consecutively. no matter how much you practice. 3. you never know if it's even worth risking your hide. lots of people don't carry a bunch of cash on them for than a few seconds outside of town, and it's usually on a player that can't interact with any real thief. people use lvl 4 crits as purses basically. some things can be done to make thieves start thieving... 1. increase the amount a thief can steal and thier enhance thier ability to do so. in a smaller, older, nightmist thieves were that way and i know very well that they made use of thier abilities. there was a thief named goddess that made a reputation for him/herself by just robbing people and only at lvl 21. 2. i suggested this long ago, but allow thieves to see how large a person's purse is. thieves could look over the potential victim and see that he has a large purse attached to his belt and proceed accordingly. likewise, a small purse is also worth noting; i don't think a thief wants to waste time on the poor. 3. make stealing possible regardless of level. all levels, 1-30 should be susceptible to being robbed. baby crits aren't made to be your purse. if you happen to be a low level or don't think that it's fair, then get wise, you don't have to carry your life savings on your epic journeys and if you've trained for the last 12 hours and collected a large sum... it might be time to go to the bank. it's related to the alt thing i keep ragging on, but seriously, it's like stuffing cocaine up a dog's ass. a lvl 4 thief isn't made for the purpose of holding your spoils out of everyone's reach, just like a dog's innards weren't designed to fool customs agents. |
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Title: Re: Thieves are not Thieves. Post by Everlast on 01/04/04 at 01:32:24 Lmfao, I agree with what Dognapot said, even the cocaine trickery part. :-/ ;) ::) I think looking at a person's inven/purse is definatly something that should be added to game. A thief would be able to do it...if not almost any class, but a thief should have the ability, there is no way it wouldn't. |
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Title: Re: Thieves are not Thieves. Post by Haunted on 01/04/04 at 02:11:35 I think it should be a level 30 ability only.(Auto-Learns when you reach level 30) |
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Title: Re: Thieves are not Thieves. Post by alone on 01/04/04 at 02:25:07 on 01/04/04 at 01:07:54, dognapot wrote:
I suggested that back when the level restriction was first put in, and I was shot at from every angle. Basicly people saying 'Why be able to steal, when they can't fight back', which is true. Appart from that, i agree with everything else. |
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Title: Re: Thieves are not Thieves. Post by dognapot on 01/04/04 at 15:03:45 yeah, well i bitched like hell about that level thing being added too. |
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