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Title: Rapier Post by Snowy on 01/13/04 at 18:41:18 The rapier is a long slender blade crafted by and for the finest of warriors who take dueling as an art. Although not as devastating as some of the other advanced weapons around, no weapon exists which can match the rapiers ability to parry opponents thrusts and strike back in the blink of an eye. Base Damage: 5 why not give it + 2-5 dex so it will match the description, would bring some more strategy to fights? If it would overpower something then make it only + 2 dex, i dont think someone will kill u with 5 base dmg, would be cool imo |
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Title: Re: Rapier Post by Sausage on 01/13/04 at 21:24:53 Thieves would not be able to use this item. (Stealing.) Not sure if I like it anyhow.. |
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Title: Re: Rapier Post by Snowy on 01/14/04 at 16:05:31 Ok, not for thieves then, but if it wont give any dex then i think its better if theres no description then to have this one. |
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Title: Re: Rapier Post by Mephistroth on 01/14/04 at 17:46:30 uh? where are thieves actually mentioned? lol |
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Title: Re: Rapier Post by Sausage on 01/14/04 at 18:05:45 He didn't. I did. Just pointing out a fact. Thanks. Have a nice day. |
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Title: Re: Rapier Post by Mephistroth on 01/14/04 at 21:15:56 And why wouldn't thieves be able to use this item? |
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Title: Re: Rapier Post by Sausage on 01/14/04 at 21:30:10 In my eyes, a weapon that adds at the least +2 dex, with no down falls, on a thief is rediculous. |
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Title: Re: Rapier Post by Everlast on 01/15/04 at 03:22:53 Which is correct. It would make it far to easy to walk around areas stealing. Not really much use for attacking, unless in a duel you switch weapon between attacking and waiting for them to hit. It wouldn't be acceptable in my opinion. |
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Title: Re: Rapier Post by Tetsusaiga on 01/15/04 at 14:38:03 And then, after the 2 dex is added, it will be taken from stores and put as a boss drop, and sold for 300k. :P |
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Title: Re: Rapier Post by Mephistroth on 01/15/04 at 15:48:35 Ok then, make it so the +2 dext doesn't make any difference to stealing.. oooh, hard to do! ::) |
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Title: Re: Rapier Post by Aidon on 01/15/04 at 15:53:20 Since Dex effects stealing yes it would be hard to do, unless you make it that thieves cannot use it. |
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Title: Re: Rapier Post by Mephistroth on 01/15/04 at 16:01:11 I don't see how it wouldn't be hard to do. |
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Title: Re: Rapier Post by alone on 01/15/04 at 16:52:09 Library info for Rapier: Base damage: 5, Can be used by: fighters, paladins, berserkers, Thieves can't use it anyway. Get over it. |
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Title: Re: Rapier Post by Snowy on 01/15/04 at 17:19:32 and yeah let him swich it in duel, if something would go wrong i have nothing against getting an extra hally or bot |
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Title: Re: Rapier Post by Mephistroth on 01/16/04 at 13:20:41 on 01/15/04 at 16:52:09, alone wrote:
I will if you give me a decent reason. So far all you retards have done is made crap arguments, that don't actually mean anything. If its a problem with stealing, then make it have a - effect. If +2 dext gave you an extra 5% chance to steal, then make the item effect be -5% chance to steal. Nothing hard about that, is there? |
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Title: Re: Rapier Post by Aidon on 01/16/04 at 14:27:43 Thieves cant' use the item now, and won't be able to. period. |
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Title: Re: Rapier Post by Haunted on 01/16/04 at 17:07:40 And what you says goes? Your attitude towards players is appauling.. |
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Title: Re: Rapier Post by Haunted on 01/16/04 at 17:09:23 Alex, you'd probably have to make it like -10% stealing i think? For the shady areas? can't remember if it affects stealing... But yeah, Mephistroth is right. why not thieves? |
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Title: Re: Rapier Post by Mephistroth on 01/16/04 at 17:09:28 on 01/16/04 at 14:27:43, Aidon wrote:
Ah, what an amazing argument from the smart ass Aidon. Look retard, if you don't have anything useful to say, keep your mouth shut. on 01/16/04 at 17:09:23, Haunted wrote:
The 5% was an example.. I have no idea how much 2 dext affects stealing chance by. How to get banned in 2 easy steps -- Pandilex |
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Title: Re: Rapier Post by Aidon on 01/16/04 at 19:59:09 I do not see how a thief could use a long sword, which is basically what a rapier is, only thinner. Rapiers are used for sword dueling, aka swashbuckling, which I rarely see thieves do, beings they use covert abilities and assassinate. I would imagine it would be difficult to assassinate someone with a long sword. Hence the reason when I made it, I made it for the current classses. http://www.cashenblades.com/rapier.jpg Rapier=Not a thieves weapon |
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Title: Re: Rapier Post by Lich on 01/17/04 at 16:32:52 History 101. In the late 18th and early 19 centuries the rapier was called the dueling weapon it was used mainly by soldiers and sailors for its long slendor blade and the speed at witch it could be drawn. BUT the weapon started its life as an assasins weapon. because of the reasons listed above. It was light and fast when most weapons of the period were big and bulky giving the assasin or theif an advantage over guards they would encounter. Taken from Europeiska armborst. En översikt," Vaabenhistoriske Aarbøger, No. Vb (Copenhagen, 1947): 105-255. (Summary in German.) as well as Aylward, J.D. The Small-sword in England, its history, its forms, its makers, and its masters. London: Hutchinson & Co., Ltd., 1945, revised 1960. a thief very well would have used it because its speed and setup alone give the thief an advantage over anyobne using a big and bulky halberd, long sword or a plethera of weapons in this game. But wait a tick we had an agument like this before berserker bear shirt and it was ruled that staff does what they want so ohh well. |
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Title: Re: Rapier Post by Haunted on 01/17/04 at 17:35:08 on 01/16/04 at 19:59:09, Aidon wrote:
I cannot imagine an Airship being in this game, but its fantasy, i cannot imagine people summoning devastate irl, but its a fantasy game, so whats the problem? |
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Title: Re: Rapier Post by Tetsusaiga on 01/17/04 at 18:07:17 Not the first time this game would be "off". Like berserkers smiting i believe. Isn't smiting supposed to be a paladin ability to destroy evil with? |
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Title: Re: Rapier Post by alone on 01/17/04 at 18:09:16 Holy Cow. Does it matter? NO!! So drop the ****ing subject kids. If the weapons gets changed so that thieves can use it (which Aidon already said isn't going to happen) then moan and groan all you like. |
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Title: Re: Rapier Post by Everlast on 01/17/04 at 19:21:41 on 01/17/04 at 18:09:16, alone wrote:
No ****ing nuts you guys, I hope you get some kind of ban for the nuts you gave to Aidon, too. There is no reason to be like that, Aidon kept is simple and didn't give you guys nuts and you acted like pricks. Why is it that it's always players like you who never seem to be around in game to be pked over and over? |
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Title: Re: Rapier Post by Haunted on 01/17/04 at 20:58:39 Uh were you the one with 23 Archies Everlast? No you weren't and still aren't. I was. now stfu. Aidons attitude towards players is terrible! he tells everyone to 'stfu' aswell. |
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Title: Re: Rapier Post by Zephie on 01/17/04 at 22:23:34 lmao, Can you blame him? "I have more arches than you..that means I'm better! nanananana" ;D |
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Title: Re: Rapier Post by alone on 01/17/04 at 22:55:47 /t Haunted How many characters you have means jack nuts. /t everlast "Why is it that it's always players like you who never seem to be around in game to be pked over and over?" That wasn't aimed at me was it? :-/ |
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Title: Re: Rapier Post by Everlast on 01/18/04 at 00:52:20 -To Alone- no homes lol, you and I have been cool for a long time, even now that most of DH is very anti-me. I would not post an attack towards you even if i ever found a reason. I'm not one to publically flame friends. Edit- Decided I didn't want to bother replying to Rich. You can private message me on forums if you need to carry on anymore. |
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Title: Re: Rapier Post by Haunted on 01/18/04 at 13:43:17 on 01/17/04 at 22:23:34, Zephie wrote:
the point i was getting at Jen was, He was trying to imply that i was a newbie. Maybe i am, now, i dont play. But another point is, you maybe had more arches than me, at the time you didnt if i remember rightly, but you still suck(ed). :) |
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Title: Re: Rapier Post by YRA on 01/31/04 at 00:35:35 All this argument about a fancy oak staff... |
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Title: Re: Rapier Post by Geunhwyvar on 02/03/04 at 00:59:45 *Geunhwyvar nods in agreement with YRA* Why does almost every single topic in this forum end up with some people arguing over something or another. Why can't you stick to the topic at hand. This is the improvements forum not the "mine's bigger than your's" forum. If the rapier plans on being changed, which Adion made it clear it wasn't, then it should be changed like this: -It should slightly regenerate stamina a bit faster than usual because of the speed in combat it provides. -It should also do more than 5 base damage. -It is a piercing weapon so it should slightly negate the effects of armor, not totaly, but a little. -Because of this it deals puncture wounds, not the typical slashing wound, so possibly a more devestating attack, because normaly it deals deeper wounds, getting closer to some of the more vital organs/areas or the body. That just makes sense to me...maybe not to others, but to me it does. Just my opinion. |
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Title: Re: Rapier Post by Everlast on 02/03/04 at 05:03:47 Ppl, this d**n post died a good 2-3 weeks ago, stop bumping it with additional comments please....it is old and useless. |
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