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(Message started by: Bean on 09/07/03 at 02:13:58)

Title: Fighter skills *No one clickers*
Post by Bean on 09/07/03 at 02:13:58
Well, Often when I read the fighter forum I see that people really think that they should get some skills/abilities that would give them certain advantages in battle.

Now the problem that has been going through is people want a way to kill someone in on click, or even one round. From what I've seen the majority of the players agree this would unbalance fighters to a certain degree. So I've been thinking of some certain skills a fighter could get to give a slight, but not overpowering edge in battle. I hope these have done that.

Accuracy skills:
For these skills I was thinking Your fighter would take on a certain persona/stances for the battle. So take that into account when you read these. They may be confusing.

Tactician-lvl 3- With this persona the fighter will be more focused on the weak points of said monster/player. Effectively increasing attack *damage by 5-10% But Reducing
overall blocking average by a certain amount *Say 3-5%*

*Damage as in damage dealt, not base damage of weapon.

Defensive-lvl 3- When in this stance a fighter will be much less Succeptable(Sp?) to damage from a monster. This stance Could either increase overall blocking by 7-10%, OR reduce overall damage by 10-15%.

Traditional-lvl 3 *But of course this is the default until lvl 3 where other persona/stances are available*- With this stance/persona the fighter will act as any other well trained fighter would act. No bonuses are given with this stance/person, As well as no negations.

Now With the above skills You would be able to use only  ONE chosen stance/persona at any one given time. Also Once you have switched to a different stance/persona you must wait a total of 3-5 minutes to change stance *To prevent people changing from tact for the attack bonus then immediatly changing back to defensive for def bonus*

Weapon skills:

Concentrated attack *Any suggestions for a more original name are welcome*- lvl 5- When a fighter uses this special attack he carefully aims and attacks at his opponents weakpoints. This attack would cost 2 stamina and would have the possibility to do 3X damage, and would never do LESS than 1.5X damage. This attack CAN still be blocked by armor, or dodged.

Now for attacks the fighter class is fairly limited, because they could be very overpowered with any 3 stam or 4 stam attacks. So I cannot think of another set of attacks that would be good for a fighter... BUT Weapon masteries could be another method of improvement.

Weapon Masteries:
These could be small increases in weapon damage as weapons are used more frequently in battle. Now this could be used for weapon types, or for individual weapons*If there were weapons of all types as strong as hally this would be even better... like piercing/slashing/blunt* Keep in mind that these do not add onto each other, once you achieve the next level the previous level become null, and void.*also keep in mind that all succesful hits add to the hit counter*

Mastery Lvl 1- This occurs after said fighter has succesfully hit any monster 500 times. If this was done by individual weapon It will increase the damage dealt by that weapon *Only when held by a fighter with this mastery in it* By about 2-5%.

Mastery lvl 2- This occurs after the fighter has struck 5000 succesful blows to any monster. This will increase the damage dealt by that weapon by 3-7%

Mastery lvl 3- This occurs after the fighter has struck 15000 succesful blows on any monster. This increases the weapon damage by 5-9%

Final mastery- This occurs after the fighter has struck 50000 succesful blows to any monster. This will increase the weapons damage by 9-15%.

So. tell me what you think ladies, and gentlemen. Tell me of any overpoweredness(Lol i made that word up!) of any skills. Also any possible abuse could be brought to my attention for a final revised version! Thank ya's kindly

~Bean~



Title: Re: Fighter skills *No one clickers*
Post by Bean on 09/07/03 at 02:34:28
Btw, to anyone that says that the stance idea is from diety, get a life diety is dead, its not coming back. so leave that alone.

I also realize that deval posted a similar stances thread awhile ago, Hence me not acctually saying 'I CAME UP WITH THIS IDEA, HAHAHA IM SO SMART' lol.

Just thought I would clear that up before it became a problem in this thread.

So I formally request from any moderator that if anyone posts ANYTHING along those lines that the post be deleted. thanks.

~Bean~

Title: Re: Fighter skills *No one clickers*
Post by CPG on 09/07/03 at 03:13:53
I like the idea of stances, it brings out the fighting side of Fighters. I don't agree on the time to change stances though. A couple minutes is way too long. Maybe more like 15 seconds. That way if you wanted to change your stance, you would have to take at least one round from someone before it would change. The two stamina attack is a pretty cool thing. I always thought that they should have some kind of "critical attack". Although if the damage was dependent on dex, Halfling Fighters would have an extreme advantage with that technique. Maybe just by lvl? I can imagine getting hit nine times by an enhanced Fighter...and i'll tell you, it will knock you dead off your feet. Haha, I made a funny!

Also, If my armor ideas come into the game, Fighters would be extreme tactical monsters. They could tank or just go all out attack. Oh yeah...i'm loving the tacticalness.

Title: Re: Fighter skills *No one clickers*
Post by Bean on 09/07/03 at 05:09:09
I put the time limit on them in the mindset that people would wait after one round and switch. It would be much more 'tactical' If the people had to run into a fight, choose thier stance, and live... or die because of thier decision(Sp?).

But 5 minutes is a bit harsh yeah... But 15 seconds would be too little also.

The 2 stam attack would probably be affected as much by dex as heal is by char *Cleric heal that is*. It would have to be mostly random otherwise characters with massive stamina would have a MASSIVE advantage, as they would hit for 3X like... 80% of the time lol.

We definitely dont want fighters hitting for 3X 80% of the time lol... thats a buttload of damage...

Title: Re: Fighter skills *No one clickers*
Post by Bean on 09/07/03 at 20:36:31
24 views and 1 post... glad you people have thoughts of your own...

Title: Re: Fighter skills *No one clickers*
Post by Mephistroth on 09/07/03 at 20:44:05
You want someone to post? Ok:


on 09/07/03 at 02:34:28, Bean wrote:
Btw, to anyone that says that the stance idea is from diety, get a life diety is dead, its not coming back. so leave that alone.


Wrong, take a look at www.deity-online.co.uk. You'll see things are going nicely :)

Title: Re: Fighter skills *No one clickers*
Post by Maltakano on 09/07/03 at 22:16:15
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Title: Re: Fighter skills *No one clickers*
Post by Mephistroth on 09/07/03 at 22:19:46
http://www.deity-online.co.uk/

Title: Re: Fighter skills *No one clickers*
Post by Maltakano on 09/07/03 at 22:28:40
ah thanks for resolving that  :)

Title: Re: Fighter skills *No one clickers*
Post by Bean on 09/08/03 at 02:02:32
Oh bugger off.... Post on the ideas or leave

Title: Re: Fighter skills *No one clickers*
Post by Deval on 09/08/03 at 04:35:48

For those questioning the time when one may change stance, the problem is easily resolved by only allowing the change when he/she has 4, 5 or 6 stamina.

Title: Re: Fighter skills *No one clickers*
Post by Bean on 09/08/03 at 05:01:15
Yeh or that.  ;D

Title: Re: Fighter skills *No one clickers*
Post by Turmoil on 09/09/03 at 22:12:24
I happen to be a fighter guy and i also read these forums and i believe that fighters need some sort of ability and i like all the idea's that have been posted so far

Title: Re: Fighter skills *No one clickers*
Post by Alterno on 09/11/03 at 18:26:51
i like this idea makes the fighter a more interesting class....its nice could we  have sum comments frm either Pandi(dancing Bananna Man) or JLH (God) on this thx

Title: Re: Fighter skills *No one clickers*
Post by Puppet on 09/13/03 at 01:18:42

on 09/11/03 at 18:26:51, Alterno wrote:
i like this idea makes the fighter a more interesting class....its nice could we  have sum comments frm either Pandi(dancing Bananna Man) or JLH (God) on this thx


Man, can you kiss any more ass? Too many ****ˇn people kiss the ass of staff.

Title: Re: Fighter skills *No one clickers*
Post by Bean on 09/13/03 at 04:28:19
Oh stfu, Go create some drama elsewhere....

Go stir some nuts in the clan forum area.... thats more the area for that.


Title: Re: Fighter skills *No one clickers*
Post by Mephistroth on 09/13/03 at 10:30:29

on 09/13/03 at 04:28:19, Bean wrote:
Oh stfu


I wish you would.

Title: Re: Fighter skills *No one clickers*
Post by Bean on 09/13/03 at 23:37:29
Must you constantly post off topic on every bloody post you post on?

If you have nothing to contribute that is constructive, why do you still insist on posting??

You dont like me? thats great, Acctually thats more than great, thats perfect... I dont like you either, So lets do eachother, and the entire game a favour and leave eachother alone....

Title: Re: Fighter skills *No one clickers*
Post by Mephistroth on 09/14/03 at 08:36:48

on 09/13/03 at 23:37:29, Bean wrote:
Must you constantly post off topic on every bloody post you post on?

If you have nothing to contribute that is constructive, why do you still insist on posting??


Because what you said about deity being dead was wrong. If you don't want me to post on your topics don't go making up bs, or go around telling people to stfu when they make a good point.

Title: Re: Fighter skills *No one clickers*
Post by Bean on 09/14/03 at 19:19:39
Right whatever, Go play diety if you love it so much.

I still dont see any downloads on that game, and Until I do its still dead... I've seen quite a few game developers get days away from their release date, and simply shut down the game. And Im pretty sure you cant vouch for thor being any different.

So to me, diety is dead until I deem otherwise. If its not dead to you thats fine and dandy... Now leave me alone, and go create drama elsewhere

Title: Re: Fighter skills *No one clickers*
Post by Mephistroth on 09/14/03 at 19:47:33

on 09/14/03 at 19:19:39, Bean wrote:
Right whatever, Go play diety if you love it so much.


Can't, there still making it.


on 09/14/03 at 19:19:39, Bean wrote:
And Im pretty sure you cant vouch for thor being any different.


Deity is not dead, and won't be for a long time. As my brother (Sepherus) is making it with Thor and Moonripper, i'm 100% sure of this.

Title: Re: Fighter skills *No one clickers*
Post by Bean on 09/14/03 at 20:00:36
Thats great, Now get outta here...

Title: Re: Fighter skills *No one clickers*
Post by Mephistroth on 09/14/03 at 20:11:34
Hmm.. no.

Title: Re: Fighter skills *No one clickers*
Post by Bean on 09/14/03 at 20:43:56
Fine.

Title: Re: Fighter skills *No one clickers*
Post by Alterno on 09/18/03 at 23:51:53
i was still hoping for staff comment on this n i dont kis staff's Ass if u have a problem wit tht plz be free to open n other topic on how ppl kiss staffs ass on the off topic forum somebody here had the decency to give a nice idea here for a change tht we all agreed upon so can we plz keep these fights off these topics n in the off topic zone

Title: Re: Fighter skills *No one clickers*
Post by Shadow on 09/20/03 at 16:52:13
didnt read all the rubbish tahat every 1 put but i like the inital ideas, especially the stance theory, keep up the good work

Title: Re: Fighter skills *No one clickers*
Post by Cule on 10/18/03 at 12:00:11
i didnt read anything on this post but im sure that FIGHTER'S DONT NEED ABILITIES

Title: Re: Fighter skills *No one clickers*
Post by Bean on 10/19/03 at 02:17:48
Is there a smart thought running through that extremely f*cking empty head of yours?

OF course fighters need abilities... they are BORING, it is to add depth to the class...

And by the way f*ckwad, stop bringing up old posts...

Title: Re: Fighter skills *No one clickers*
Post by Mystic_Ninja on 10/19/03 at 05:48:43
If you don't mind. I think this is a great idea to take to teh suggestion forum and let JLH see. Every other class has skills, why can't we?



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