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Title: 6 Stamina Post by Deval on 02/18/03 at 23:43:54 May I suggest beserkers have a max stamina of 5? If they have 6, it really honestly does make the fighter totally, complelety, utterly obsolete. The fighter now has no advantage that isnt matched by one of the other classes. May I suggest the removal of the fighter class all together? |
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Title: Re: 6 Stamina Post by Stotic on 02/19/03 at 00:31:45 I would believe the fighter to still be the most powerful class in the game. |
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Title: Re: 6 Stamina Post by Deval on 02/19/03 at 01:14:00 Whilst we more often than not tend to share the same opinion, I'm afraid I must vehemently disagree here. Fighter is matched at every doorway. |
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Title: Re: 6 Stamina Post by Bishop on 02/19/03 at 03:42:30 I agree with Deval (again) - he's only talking sense. |
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Title: Re: 6 Stamina Post by Stotic on 02/19/03 at 05:16:33 A fighter has more consistancy than a thief if your looking for anything. |
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Title: Re: 6 Stamina Post by King_Macros on 02/22/03 at 10:11:49 Fighters..................SUCK NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!! I miss them :( |
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Title: Re: 6 Stamina Post by Nytemare on 02/27/03 at 16:27:28 Rule out fighters... you don't see us rolling out mages because of low hp |
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Title: Re: 6 Stamina Post by Nytemare on 02/27/03 at 16:29:51 Fighters have a nice choice of weapons in the game and hit more often then some classes. Getting rid of them is no fun. :( |
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Title: Re: 6 Stamina Post by newb on 02/27/03 at 19:42:10 Fighters frequently get slaughtered by other classes. Rangers can usually round them, thieves will click them or take away the majority of their hp, mages will use aop and beam the crap out of them, pallys will use champs and aid themselves, clerics can just own any other class in a duel and berserkers can just slaughter everything. The only class that fighters have a true advantage over are druids. But i'm sure that'll be fixed with the druid update. |
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Title: Re: 6 Stamina Post by Deval on 02/28/03 at 04:42:24 on 02/27/03 at 16:29:51, Nytemare wrote:
You want their weapons? Play a beserker. Nytemare, Mages are not ruled out because they have a strength, an advantage of thier own over other classes. Fighters need to be removed simply because at the moment they are like a car, they are an old Volkswagen, that has been replaced with the latest swanky (and pricey) model, let's call that model... Beserker shall we? |
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Title: Re: 6 Stamina Post by sugah on 02/28/03 at 11:12:43 a good fighter can beat a berseker...besides berserkers will be tweaked im sure |
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Title: Re: 6 Stamina Post by Clu on 02/28/03 at 16:24:32 (Nytemare forgot pass >:( ) Anyways, i agree with the last post. The beserkers will be tweaked eventually. The reason why a fighter is still good is because the beserkers will get knocked easily due to no armor. The only thing keeping a beserker from being killed is his strong attacks. Fighters are over taken by most classes. But look around, fighters are the ones with the most player kills and monster kills, not a beserker. |
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Title: Re: 6 Stamina Post by newb on 02/28/03 at 19:47:37 berserkers don't have as many monster kills and pk's because they are only about 2 weeks old. Berserkers will not get "knocked" easily. With smite and berserk, you'll get owned before you even knew you were back in your local. |
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Title: Re: 6 Stamina Post by Alicia on 02/28/03 at 20:26:44 In a fight between a top level fighter and zerker id suppose the fighter would win providing he didnt get clicked, coz the zerker would lose health quicker and get through pots quicker. They are OTOH ranger butcherers, as people who have seen their archies downed by adepts... |
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Title: Re: 6 Stamina Post by Deval on 03/03/03 at 01:52:41 As Valentine has tried to explain to those of you who lack the intelliegence to realise, the Beserker does not have a disadvantage due to no armour. As Valentine said, the hp they get works out to parrallel what they would lose if they were wearing armour in the first place. So a Beserker is a fighter wich hits harder. |
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Title: Re: 6 Stamina Post by Tender_Foot on 03/07/03 at 16:50:40 Berserkers are just rediculous. yesterday i went against a lvl 25 berserker, with my lvl 25 paladin, lvl 24 ranger, lvl 23 fighter, and lvl 23 thief and i attacked with everything using full stamina before he actualy died (and he didnt even use 1 pot) |
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Title: Re: 6 Stamina Post by Rage on 03/08/03 at 15:32:43 Well ur crits blow then. I killed an arch berserker with a lvl 28 dwarf fighter and a lvl 26 halfling fighter in one round without getting hit. He had no time to drink pots ;). |
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Title: Re: 6 Stamina Post by Tender_Foot on 03/08/03 at 20:36:35 LoL, I remember killing you Rage, you obviously don't know who I am. Anyways, anytime you wanna meet, I'll murder your crits, including your cleric? |
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Title: Re: 6 Stamina Post by Rage on 03/08/03 at 23:45:09 ok whenever ur on and i doubt if u killed me maybe in mosh. who can i contact u on in game and lets see who sucks. |
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Title: Re: 6 Stamina Post by Tender_Foot on 03/09/03 at 01:50:58 ill catch up to you |
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Title: Re: 6 Stamina Post by Digital [Disturbance] on 03/09/03 at 03:51:18 Back to the TOPIC, I believe Berserkers are still owned by fighters. Fighter's have more armor, and berserkers having rage, would lower the berserkers hit rate, and more chance he gets hit. If you have someone come along with a Blade of Time, the berserker will get slaughtered because of lack of armor, and dexterity. They may have more health, but they lose everytime they smite/berserk. In conclusion, Fighters should NOT be cleared from the game, as they are the (probably) most used class. |
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Title: Re: 6 Stamina Post by Lyandor on 03/09/03 at 13:39:55 Actually zerkers do very well against fighters, ive seen archie zerkers round anything even without spells. |
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Title: Re: 6 Stamina Post by WiCkEd_PhReAk on 03/09/03 at 22:40:49 I thought this was a thread for Fighters, not Zerkers? Maybe I cant read, or maybe you cant read? |
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Title: Re: 6 Stamina Post by Blast on 03/10/03 at 22:25:07 playing a berserk is much easier when then looking at hows fighter and berserk, but when u got cash u maybe can buy some cool pots for berserk, while fighters can buy so much stuff so if u got some real cash (the one i m dreamin about)u can make even a druid rule! |
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Title: Re: 6 Stamina Post by Tender_Foot on 03/11/03 at 05:16:08 what in the hell did you just say? That paragraph is so jumbled i cant even get past 4 words without getting confused |
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Title: Re: 6 Stamina Post by Zerlix on 03/12/03 at 04:46:22 bottom line is, fighters shouldn't be erased. they are one of the easiest to train AND there are more arch fighters than anything to back this fact so apparently they are popular |
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Title: Re: 6 Stamina Post by Lyandor on 03/12/03 at 15:59:26 I actually thought they were making a joke when they said you might aswell remove fighters. I assumed they just meant that because there so alike, we don't really need them both. |
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Title: Re: 6 Stamina Post by Deval on 04/14/03 at 01:00:59 * tip his hat to rampage Tis true tis true |
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Title: Re: 6 Stamina Post by Despair on 04/14/03 at 07:10:43 Instead of killing off probarbly the most popular class in the game wouldn't it be an idea to update them first perhaps try to balance them with a couple of abilities . . . |
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Title: Re: 6 Stamina Post by Currupted on 04/14/03 at 07:22:51 I agree with Despair, I don't wanna see my beautiful fighters die out on me, give'em a chance, actually give them a update instead of pushing them aside, FIGHTERS RULE.... Sword-Chucks are the single greatest advancement in all weaponology!....Ahh ya gotta love Fighter from 8-bit theater |
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Title: Re: 6 Stamina Post by BRabbit on 04/20/03 at 23:20:14 Ok im not going to sit here and praise myself, i Own Noreaga, hes a halfling fighter, from level 28, hes owned every arch zerker, Carnage, Rot, Disturbed, Darkpsycho, Sadist, all of em, ive beaten alot of zerkers, and i also noticed, u want to remove fighters? roflmao ffs get a life, fighters own almost every class. i just beat Alliedassault in a duel. if i am correct i believe he is 18 xx 21 18 18 19. he used hypno but i beat him, it was close but i still think fighters own every class. Or if ur a newb with high level crits, u know that strength doesnt beat people, Stratagy does. I know when im attacking i use a power system.. which includes an arch mage, level 28 thief, 30 fighter and either an arch ranger, or an arch of another class, dont knock on fighter fool, they are the first class i have ever used and in my opinion the best class i have ever used.. I have the crit with the highest halfling hp, and guess what.. its a fighter.. it is barely ever hit. and hits harder then some berserkers (counting rounds up).. i have beat alot of zerkers, but some times its just luck, who has better rounds, if the smite hits etc etc.. if u people want to get rid of fighters ur a bunch of a** holes. Fighters shall remain the best class, due to their Dexterity and because of how hard they hit. -Ed- |
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Title: Re: 6 Stamina Post by newb on 04/21/03 at 04:54:31 You mean Halfling Fighters own, right? |
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Title: Re: 6 Stamina Post by BRabbit on 04/21/03 at 09:30:16 No, i have beaten almost every arch zerker with Purplehaze also, so dont think i meant halfling fighters, i mean HELL YEA they own, but Dwarf fighters own them alot lol.. so FIGHTERS RULE..ZERKERS SUCK! |
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Title: Re: 6 Stamina Post by Deval on 04/23/03 at 01:26:23 on 04/20/03 at 23:20:14, BRabbit wrote:
Dear Retard, How about you read the the post about removing fighters being a joke chinlicker, before you go busting to boost your post count? As for the throng of insults in your post, do you really want to get into a slagging match with me? As for you stating in your post that you weren't going to praise yourself, I find it difficult to find another post in all of the forums that displays such a self loving, self righteous and ill witted attitude. As for your 'power system', no one really much cares about it, in fact, it doesn't even belong in this thread, just like you don't belong in these forums. People are talking about SINGULAR fighters here, not what you buddy them up with you empty headed tool boy. Now the CAUSE of the post: I didn't state that fighters couldn't beat Zerkers, the thread, my neanderthal friend, is designed to bring to attention how 'un-unique' the fighter class is now. So the next time you feel like talking yourself up, and concreting the lack of respect that will always entail your name, take a look at previous posts. Kind Regards Your Mothers Panties. |
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Title: Re: 6 Stamina Post by Clu on 04/23/03 at 16:40:28 Zerkers dont exactly suck, sure they can kill easily... but another fact stands... A good fighter will beat any beserker... I've dealt with expert beserkers. Inertia is one and i easily beat him with a lvl 25 fighter. They can be easily killed for the following reasons 1. They have no Armor. All though their hp makes up for it, all it takes is a archmaster fighter to bring him/her down. 2. Beserkers have low hit rates and are extremely easy to hit. Everytime you'll fight with one, you will find it extremely easy to hit. Fighters are the most popular and powerful of classes. But no one can hardly bring one down unless their teaming, or using spells. A ranger has its advantages because they have Rapid Fire. One hit from those can bring ANYTHING down. By the time a fighter actually has time to react a ranger has their stam back and ready for another round. Point is, just because a Beserker will get 6 stamina, doesnt mean it will be the most powerful, Fighters can easily bring any class down. But they can easily be brought down themselves. You just have to know what your doing |
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Title: Re: 6 Stamina Post by Belgarion on 04/23/03 at 21:54:40 Deval wasn't talking about how powerful they are, he was saying how un-original they are and how they have nothing to themselves anymore, which is why they should keep the 6th stam to fighters only. |
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Title: Re: 6 Stamina Post by scott4 on 05/25/03 at 01:05:05 6 stamina rules on zerkers!!! :P |
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Title: Re: 6 Stamina Post by Bobbity on 06/08/03 at 08:48:10 Yeah it rules, but it's too powerful and it stops fighters from having the upperhand against them. |
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