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(Message started by: Spunge on 01/24/03 at 22:19:05)

Title: Fighter's The Best Class?
Post by Spunge on 01/24/03 at 22:19:05
What Do You Think? There hp definatly gives them a advantage but are they good enough to kill Thieves or Rangers 1 on 1?

Title: Re: Fighter's The Best Class?
Post by Disjunction on 01/24/03 at 23:56:34
Good enough to beat a thief in a one on one situation definately. Rangers can get tricky if they use hypnotize which they do in just about every duel.

Title: Re: Fighter's The Best Class?
Post by Stotic on 01/24/03 at 23:58:52
I'm with stupid.  ^     Fighters have the upper-hand and they should.  

Title: Re: Fighter's The Best Class?
Post by Fyxie on 01/25/03 at 02:32:35
Fighters definately have the upper hand. My fighter could whoop my paladin any day of the week and she's only one lvl lower then my paladin.

Title: Re: Fighter's The Best Class?
Post by ChaosHound on 01/25/03 at 05:19:51
LOL  fighters need help.

Thats all i got to say about that.

Title: Re: Fighter's The Best Class?
Post by Oblivion on 01/25/03 at 09:56:49
Figthers are boring they need help..
Mages own most fighters tho.

Title: Re: Fighter's The Best Class?
Post by Darken on 01/25/03 at 13:30:05
Rangers have the advantage against a fighter

Title: Re: Fighter's The Best Class?
Post by Mammon on 01/25/03 at 15:46:25
Fighters are boring they need some more skills, they hold their own in a fight although a good ranger can usually take a good fighter in 1 vs 1 fights.

Title: Re: Fighter's The Best Class?
Post by Stotic on 01/26/03 at 06:11:38
Maybe allow them to double wield?

Title: Re: Fighter's The Best Class?
Post by Eternal_Darkness on 01/26/03 at 07:55:42
I think Fighters should have one magic attack that takes up all stamina to attack with a devestating blow,but the effect is you don't get the next round of stamina.You should have to defeat a boss that drops a Scroll of the Warrior,and when you use it it should say,"You suddenly feel more powerful and raging with strength."Only Archmasters(Fighters) can use it.It should be a 50% drop chance from the Demonic General and the Halberd should be a 50% drop chance too.If not that make a new boss some where hidden and give the item a 100% drop chance.I mean personaly i think it is a good idea and if staff wants they can make it for Rangers too.

Title: Re: Fighter's The Best Class?
Post by Deval on 01/26/03 at 14:17:53
So assassinate only crapper. *Deval gives the thumbs down

Title: Re: Fighter's The Best Class?
Post by SweUrk Rchirack Unicrown on 02/02/03 at 02:48:34

on 01/26/03 at 06:11:38, Stotic wrote:
Maybe allow them to double wield?



Err.... Rephrase,  make fighter amberdextrious (spelling?)

Hmm,  I think this would add lots of interest to the game,  I think that at lvl 10 fighters should choose what they wanted to be.  Either a ninja (amberdextrious), defender (same, but with sheilds,  they can wear a tower shield, a buckler, and a lighter weapon), warrior (basically what they are), or weaponsmaster (which chooses a weapon to master and gets abilities depending on the weapon,  once he has mastered a weapon, but he can only use that weapon and similar weapons after that!

For example, for the hally,  skullcrush, which would take 3  stamina but does normal damage and takes 2 stam away from enemy, (this would prove useful against classes with low stam, and theives also)

and another example, the famous weapon, boh!  

Holy glow, stab, and swing.


all swords have stab and swing, swing takes 2 stam and does twice damage, stab take 1/2 stam and does half damage,  this could help when you are fighting monsters that are weak and you dont want to waste all that stam one just one.

Holy glow could make the weapon's next hit vamparic for 80%
)

How are these ideas?

Title: Re: Fighter's The Best Class?
Post by Pyros on 02/02/03 at 18:16:35
Its spelled as Ambidexterity, and it wouldn't really help you with two handed weapons that much, as it just means that your neither right handed or left handed, so I think duel/double wield would be better.

Title: Re: Fighter's The Best Class?
Post by SweUrk Rchirack Unicrown on 02/02/03 at 23:28:22
No ambidextrous sounds much cooler, and I thought what he meant by double wield would be having two weapons.  (this would probably take the base damage down about a quarter in each weapon, and allow the fighter to hit twice.

This could be cool, and a quarter is about right, because instead of half (I mean two weapons with both whole would just double base damage which would make fighters too powerful)
but you see, half would 'weaken' it, because seperate hits have a chance of missing,  and so quarter.  Some might say it it should be more than a quarter, but they need a little attack bonus because of the shield that they are missing.

Title: Re: Fighter's The Best Class?
Post by Gohda on 02/11/03 at 08:00:52
Well they do have alot of HP but thief can assantion on them.
So it will be a thought fight.

Title: Re: Fighter's The Best Class?
Post by Clu on 02/28/03 at 16:51:00
Fighters are the best class on opinion. They have a lot of hp too. I like Stotic's idea for the double wield. 2 halberd would do a lot of damage, but how are you going to do it. It would still use up the same amount of stamina. Just like hitting them but twice as fast. No difference between have one or two. Like to see a code that doesnt take down the stamina as easily as one does.

Title: Re: Fighter's The Best Class?
Post by Xaviers_Shadow on 03/03/03 at 14:03:48
i think that fighters should be given a move that enables them to do a large ammount of damage in one move (NOT like assassinate) but every time they do this attack they lose Hp (so that the move does not make them overpowered)

Title: Re: Fighter's The Best Class?
Post by Bill on 03/03/03 at 19:24:52
Exactly like Berserk then...

Title: Re: Fighter's The Best Class?
Post by Xaviers_Shadow on 03/05/03 at 11:41:41
wouldnt know i "dislike" berserkers and to that end ive never used one

Title: Re: Fighter's The Best Class?
Post by dark_vengence on 03/26/03 at 04:53:15
it is exactly like berserk and fighters should not be given a multi-stamina move b/c too many other classes already have them.  double wield is a very good idea, but maybe they should not be allowed to wield 2 of the same weapon (i.e. not two halberds, but a halberd and a pike or something like that)

just a thought

Title: Re: Fighter's The Best Class?
Post by drizzt_dourden on 03/26/03 at 14:44:41
that'd sure suck for me if they ever get scimitars in this game that is.

Title: Re: Fighter's The Best Class?
Post by Clu on 03/28/03 at 16:36:52
Like everyone says, the zerker is fighter with no armor... Well a fighter is the better class. I've noticed that without being raged a zerker misses A LOT more than you think. My lvl 16 beserker had a Blade of Sacrifice and i kept missing... I dont know if its the weapon but im sure it isnt that

Title: Re: Fighter's The Best Class?
Post by scott4 on 05/25/03 at 01:16:13
heh

Title: Re: Fighter's The Best Class?
Post by scott4 on 05/25/03 at 01:17:46
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Title: Re: Fighter's The Best Class?
Post by scott4 on 05/25/03 at 01:18:04
heh

Title: Re: Fighter's The Best Class?
Post by scott4 on 05/25/03 at 01:18:21
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Title: Re: Fighter's The Best Class?
Post by scott4 on 05/25/03 at 01:18:40
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Title: Re: Fighter's The Best Class?
Post by scott4 on 05/25/03 at 01:19:14
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Title: Re: Fighter's The Best Class?
Post by scott4 on 05/25/03 at 01:19:30
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Title: Re: Fighter's The Best Class?
Post by scott4 on 05/25/03 at 01:23:56
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Title: Re: Fighter's The Best Class?
Post by scott4 on 05/25/03 at 01:24:13
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Title: Re: Fighter's The Best Class?
Post by scott4 on 05/25/03 at 01:24:32
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Title: Re: Fighter's The Best Class?
Post by scott4 on 05/25/03 at 01:24:56
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Title: Re: Fighter's The Best Class?
Post by scott4 on 05/25/03 at 01:25:25
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Title: Re: Fighter's The Best Class?
Post by scott4 on 05/25/03 at 01:25:45
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Title: Re: Fighter's The Best Class?
Post by scott4 on 05/25/03 at 01:26:02
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Title: Re: Fighter's The Best Class?
Post by scott4 on 05/25/03 at 01:28:48
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Title: Re: Fighter's The Best Class?
Post by scott4 on 05/25/03 at 01:29:05
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Title: Re: Fighter's The Best Class?
Post by scott4 on 05/25/03 at 01:32:47
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Title: Re: Fighter's The Best Class?
Post by scott4 on 05/25/03 at 01:33:05
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Title: Re: Fighter's The Best Class?
Post by scott4 on 05/25/03 at 01:33:21
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Title: Re: Fighter's The Best Class?
Post by scott4 on 05/25/03 at 01:33:37
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Title: Re: Fighter's The Best Class?
Post by scott4 on 05/25/03 at 01:33:57
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Title: Re: Fighter's The Best Class?
Post by scott4 on 05/25/03 at 02:45:51
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Title: Re: Fighter's The Best Class?
Post by King o Sausage on 05/25/03 at 02:59:13
Stop.

Title: Re: Fighter's The Best Class?
Post by Mordakai on 05/25/03 at 09:59:54

on 05/25/03 at 01:33:57, scott4 wrote:
heh


Retard.

Title: Re: Fighter's The Best Class?
Post by alone on 05/26/03 at 03:33:11
Oooh, some forum excitement..
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AHA, just the one.
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Title: Re: Fighter's The Best Class?
Post by Lady_Maha on 05/26/03 at 07:19:02
I thought that I had seen all the stupid people on the forum already, but I stand corrected. scott4 wins the title of most annoying and useless person on the forum. Calling him a retard is an insult to all other retards, and I can only agree with alone!

Ban this fool!

Title: Re: Fighter's The Best Class?
Post by alone on 05/26/03 at 11:41:30
Sorry to be off the topic once again..

The most interesting thing abvout people like Scott, is whether they know how to actually post really fast, so there is like a second between each post (Professional :P), but, as you may notice, he wasted several minutes to post those few replies..

Shows how much of an idiot he really is.
Yes, another one!
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Title: Re: Fighter's The Best Class?
Post by Mordakai on 05/26/03 at 23:39:51
sweet...

Title: Re: Fighter's The Best Class?
Post by Melchior on 06/26/03 at 13:09:03
Back to the fighters shall we?

i just started my first fighter and i really think they are great...but rather boring :-/

its just clicking after clicking........ :-/

And double wield sounds good, but how does it really work?
does it do like double damage....or do u get more hits?

Title: Re: Fighter's The Best Class?
Post by -Gaddy- on 07/24/03 at 08:28:19
hella no they're not the best class, they should be much better than they are, but they're not...only thing theyve got going is 2nd best hp and 6 stam...really zerkers took the 2 things they had going for them..hp and stam...and what...with armor spells and races thier either tied for 3rd or 3rd best armor out of the races..i mean, they need a name change or something..if you're going to call them fighters, make them good enough to fight.

Title: Re: Fighter's The Best Class?
Post by Game Over - SykoNinjaPhreak on 07/24/03 at 09:41:51
*Insane agrees with Gaddy...

Title: Re: Fighter's The Best Class?
Post by -=ToM=- on 07/24/03 at 20:15:27
to sum up nicely (havent read it all) halflings are best fighters at killing non magic based crits, elfs at magic based.

also if you want to make a fighter more balenced to all the other crits just give it 1 extra stamina i mean a 7 round phhh

Title: Re: Fighter's The Best Class?
Post by -Gaddy- on 07/26/03 at 20:46:20
...7 stam would be retarded... (this is just in my opinion)

Title: Re: Fighter's The Best Class?
Post by Despair on 07/26/03 at 21:45:49
7 stam  :-/  . . .

if an Arch fighter got a full round of 60+ hits in that works out at 420+ damage  :-/

that would round an arch Zerker which shouldn't be possible

Title: Re: Fighter's The Best Class?
Post by -=ToM=- on 07/30/03 at 12:16:41
actully thinking about it 7 stamina would be a bit( load ) to good  :-X

Title: Re: Fighter's The Best Class?
Post by Drum on 07/30/03 at 20:06:02
i think halfing is the best class for a fighter

Title: Re: Fighter's The Best Class?
Post by -Gaddy- on 07/31/03 at 00:34:28
Depends on what weapon you're using, BoT I'd rather have a dwarf w/ dexies, but if you're just the avg. player like me you dont have a BoT or dexies...especially not enough to waste them on fighters...

Title: Re: Fighter's The Best Class?
Post by Deval on 08/01/03 at 04:22:53
Of all the races needing a BoT would be halflings, due to pansy strength. Humans follow up close behind, due to having less strength than the dwarf, but also the handicap of having less dex than the halfling. A BoT is not at all a necessity for a dwarf, just a means of making one 'mean' opponent if it is decked out. A decked out 4 stat arch dwarf is the only fighter that stands a chance against classes such as the Ranger.

Title: Re: Fighter's The Best Class?
Post by deSade on 08/06/03 at 01:57:43
I like the duel hit. Hit twice (as long as you got two single handed weapons equiped) for each stam but quater less hit damage plus the loss of shield armour.

If thats a bit too strong maybe you could have -1 dex because of the difficulty in co-ordinating your attack?

Plus it'd mean you have to get some more interesting single-handed weapons into the game like a spiked knuckle-duster or something.

Hugh



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