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Title: Druid Armor Post by Zephie on 01/27/04 at 12:25:51 Just want to gather everyones opinion. Should druids really be able to cast stone form and gaea's blessing on top of eachother? Or do you think one of the two spells should be reduced? IMO The spells are just too powerful, druid armor shouldn't be more powerful than mage. Oh and I've skimmed through forums, please dont say I'm saying this because "I don't own a druid" because you'd be very wrong. Anyway, post your opinions. |
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Title: Re: Druid Armor Post by Issy on 01/27/04 at 12:45:46 I do think druids are slightly over-powered. And think one of the armor spells should be lessened. |
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Title: Re: Druid Armor Post by Iron_Maiden on 01/27/04 at 13:15:45 No druids armor spells are fine there not over powerd at all. They should just be left alone... |
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Title: Re: Druid Armor Post by Detheroc on 01/27/04 at 15:33:58 Druids spells are fine. I think the key is not to lower the class to fit in with others, its to raise the other classes. Otherwise it just gets stupid. |
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Title: Re: Druid Armor Post by Phobos on 01/27/04 at 15:40:53 i say you can't cast ontop of eachother. that would solve it, just like paladins can't cast divine prayer and champions strength at the same time. |
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Title: Re: Druid Armor Post by Detheroc on 01/27/04 at 15:56:30 Yet you can have enhance and RF at the same time. You can't use that as 'evidence' when it isnt the case. |
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Title: Re: Druid Armor Post by Wolfvirus81 on 01/27/04 at 16:51:01 Leave the F*$%*ing druids alone. All the classes are fine. |
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Title: Re: Druid Armor Post by Detheroc on 01/27/04 at 16:59:06 Except mages. |
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Title: Re: Druid Armor Post by Avenging_Druid on 01/27/04 at 17:50:53 Everything is fine with the druids armor spells. |
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Title: Re: Druid Armor Post by Eternyte on 01/27/04 at 19:30:17 If they are left the same all Mage armor spells should be able to be stacked. Giving Mages aproxx 500ac. However, yes I agree that druid armor spells need to be reduced. Or one increased and non-stackable. |
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Title: Re: Druid Armor Post by Raven on 01/28/04 at 00:05:44 the armor spells are fine and arent over powered anyways stoneform only lasts 1 minute |
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Title: Re: Druid Armor Post by Snowy on 01/28/04 at 17:00:40 okay, but then as eternyte said make mage armor spells be castable at same time too. oh and if u raise all classes monsters gonna be too weak and u have to change whole map |
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Title: Re: Druid Armor Post by I Am Spethal on 01/29/04 at 04:08:18 I say they're fine but if something must be done then I'd go with what Eternyte said, increase Gaea's and make it unstackable. |
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Title: Re: Druid Armor Post by Rizzen on 01/29/04 at 08:17:12 on 01/29/04 at 04:08:18, I Am Spethal wrote:
That could actually make them more powerful if Gaea's was increased a good bit. As of now.. when a druid casts Gaea's, stoneform and then morhps, he/she only has the extra ac of the stoneform spell for 1 minute. Then there are 4 minutes left where there is only Gaea's protecting the druid until the morph wears off. Increasing Gaea's would give it even more ac for those four minutes. They are more a defensive class. They are able to attain a higher ac than fighters, but while they hit for about the same as a fighter while morphed, they only get 5 stam at lvl 29, compared to the 6 stam at lvl 28 with fighters. That makes all the difference. I don't have much experience with mages.. but it sounds like they could use a good revamp. |
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Title: Re: Druid Armor Post by Raven on 01/30/04 at 08:36:06 druids are defensive mages are offensive (well they should be more offensive than a druid their spells need to do alot more damadge then a druid) |
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Title: Re: Druid Armor Post by Id on 02/01/04 at 23:10:03 agree what need to be change is mage's damage spell: amount of damage/fizzle rate. |
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Title: Re: Druid Armor Post by Exor on 02/02/04 at 00:29:56 druids sucked for the longest time...Now they are good and people get mad.I say just make mages more powerful. |
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Title: Re: Druid Armor Post by Undead on 02/02/04 at 04:34:32 mages are the one the needs to be fix, leave the d**n druid alone. |
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Title: Re: Druid Armor Post by Eternyte on 02/02/04 at 10:01:20 Just typical. Mages quest armor is 30ac, mages best robes are 100k, and +1 on golden robes, and said quest armor. Many posts have been brought up about the amount of armor druids are able to amount with their spells, this is also due to the base armor they can achieve in the first place. We have be advising that it's been to much for a long time, yet still items are brought into the enhance druids armor. Antlers, which is the same as mages quest helm, witches hat. Then recently another armor is attainable for druids with a 45ac, dragon's skin. Every single class has an armor which is better than champions belt, it's about time mages had something going for them. With all this extra armor druids are able to wear, something needs to be done about their spells atleast. |
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Title: Re: Druid Armor Post by easter_bunny on 02/03/04 at 05:46:55 This whole argument about a druid's armor is really pointless. As I've stated and proven in the past, neither a Druid's nor a Mage's armor stops the amount of damage given by Assassinate or Smite. And while Assassinate is a theives main offensive attack (comon, who just 'attacks' with theives nowadays?), Berserkers can easily perce armor with their Berzerk OR Smite. Spelled up completely (118 armor, not the richest guy in NM), I was rounded after two hits from a berzerker's hally. A Berzerker who was two levels lower than me, mind you. The only thing that happens to them is they get a weapon with an extra base damage (adamant warhammer). Leave druids alone, their perk is armor. Drop Mages fizzle rates and mana costs. Give them Flame at level 10, Blast at lvl 15, Beam at 20, Untweaked Devestate at 28. /two cents |
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Title: Re: Druid Armor Post by Raven on 02/05/04 at 09:31:27 I dont see why alot of people think mages should have more armor than druids. mages spells just need to do more damadge. Stormwrath is only strong at low lvls (compared to other classes at that lvl) and druids can only do alot of damadge in morph with cleric spells. mages just need to do more damadge with their spells. |
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Title: Re: Druid Armor Post by Diagonyte on 02/10/04 at 15:09:08 Druids sucked baddly and when they get an upgrade people say oh its too much which i can also look at from both ways , i think mages should be a powerhouse when attacking and should have armor close to druids if not the same bt that doesnt mean lower druids armor.I think that mages should have a few more spells to make them worth playing agian and stand by Eternyte when he complains about mages as they obviously his favorite class and can understand if he feels they've been short changed cause those are my favorites as well (Druid & Mage) mages should be stronger b/c of how hard it is to train them due to having low hp and on top of that thief armors low too. cant say the same for druids cause compared to before the update the were also the hardest to train. But as far as armor goes i think druids and mages should be able to have high armor, and mages should have the best offencive magic spells where as druids have the best defenceive spells. ~Baker~ |
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Title: Re: Druid Armor Post by Everlast on 02/12/04 at 02:14:44 on 01/27/04 at 19:30:17, Eternyte wrote:
I think they should make it so that mages can, with full equips, get something around 200 ac. They should honestly be able to make themselves virtually inpenaterable to physical blows when they've got full spells on..give them a 2nd spell that stacks on AoP and lasts a shorter time. Druids and mages should be classes that are basically solo classes in my opinion. Making them strong enough to fend off groups is alright because they wouldn't really be more dangerous than anything else even if they were in large parties, it'd just cost mana out the ass and be difficult. |
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Title: Re: Druid Armor Post by Raylen on 02/12/04 at 12:12:05 I don't reckon druids are overpowered, simply because if they were, there would be more arch druids in the game. It's kind of like economics, except with crits ;) They do also seem more suited to being a solo class rather than a party class like rangers/zerkers, as has already been said. And another point that's also been made, perhaps not in this thread...instead of making one class worse to fit in, make the weaker classes better. So make mages have another spell giving them 200ac or something, give fighters a better weapon/armour, and as for pallys....lol ::) |
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Title: Re: Druid Armor Post by Epic on 02/13/04 at 04:45:14 on 02/12/04 at 02:14:44, Everlast wrote:
/nod I dont think druids should be decresed at all, they are a solo class just like mages..and to get off topic for amin the problem with mages is they dont get enough mps..give them like 600mps tops they'll be ok ;) ...I have a lvl 28 druid that i havnt really messed around with mostly because there isnt very many out..they way under-rated im not really sure how they should be fixed yet, but they should be as strong as mages in a diff way i think... |
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Title: Re: Druid Armor Post by Raven on 02/15/04 at 09:13:57 i think druids should have more armor and mages should just do a hella lot more damadge than a druid there is no reason why a druid shouldnt have more armor leave druids and boost mage attacking spells |
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Title: Re: Druid Armor Post by Surkillalot on 02/15/04 at 09:36:18 ya in a way everyone here is right something needs to be done |
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