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(Message started by: Norinth on 02/20/03 at 18:43:28)

Title: New Spell: Battle Fog
Post by Norinth on 02/20/03 at 18:43:28

This spell can only be cast in meadows, plains, forests and deserts. It is a level 28-30 spell.

This spell "summons" some fog. This affects the square it is cast on and all the squares around it. For example, if it was cast on crossroads south of Arilin, it would affect the crossroads square and the four squares around it. Also affects the squares below, but not the ones above the square it was cast on.

The fog affects:
-Chance of missing: 20%
-Chance of hitting a random person/monster in the square: 10% (even if they are nopked)
-Description of area, you can't see a thing.
-Movement, just like if you were drunk, you don't know where you're going
-All pics turn into a blur.

This affects every monster or player in the square. Including the druid.

Lasts for 40 seconds. Costs 50 mana. The mana is drained every five seconds, just like a morph, but it only lasts for the max ammount of time (40 secs) and drains to the max ammount of mana (50). If you run out of mana, it vanishes.
If you cast it and it vanishes (for duration or mana), you can't cast it again for four minutes. Count down starts right after you cast it, and not when it vanishes.

P.S. Spy glass doesn't work in the fog.

This is a suggestion, so I would like to know your opinion.

Title: Re: New Spell: Battle Fog
Post by Rollers on 02/20/03 at 23:13:50

hmmm not likly to happen cuz none ever listens or cares about this class so it dont matter but a nice idea!

Title: Re: New Spell: Battle Fog
Post by Kelevandros on 02/20/03 at 23:45:37

on 02/20/03 at 18:43:28, Norinth wrote:

Also affects the squares below, but not the ones above the square it was cast on.

That, I believe, is inaccurate. The "mist" should affect areas above, not below.

Title: Re: New Spell: Battle Fog
Post by Bullitt on 02/20/03 at 23:51:28

Being 'mist' it would be more dense and thus form a layer above the ground, that's what I think he was getting at.

Title: Re: New Spell: Battle Fog
Post by Norinth on 02/21/03 at 17:12:11

Exactly.

Title: Re: New Spell: Battle Fog
Post by Conn on 08/21/03 at 20:16:46

Nice idea but did you take into account the Berserk/Rapid fire skill being used in your fog and someone killinga clan member or nopked party member. That part i cant agree with but the rest makes for a solid idea.

Title: Re: New Spell: Battle Fog
Post by VampyreDarla on 08/21/03 at 22:26:51

It does make sense that you could hit a nopked person because it's fog and you can't see who you are attacking.

I like this idea except why would there be fog in a desert? Deserts are dry which means no moisture and no fog. Unless it would be sand storm instead of fog. Also it would make sense to work anywhere where there's water, such as sewers perhaps?

Edit: typos :P

Title: Re: New Spell: Battle Fog
Post by Mephistroth on 08/21/03 at 23:46:01

on 08/21/03 at 22:26:51, VampyreDarla wrote:

I like this idea except why would there be fog in a desert?

It's magic. It makes no difference if the area is dry or wet, the spell will still work.

Title: Re: New Spell: Battle Fog
Post by VampyreDarla on 08/22/03 at 00:43:38

on 08/21/03 at 23:46:01, Mephistroth wrote:

It's magic. It makes no difference if the area is dry or wet, the spell will still work.

Well ok since its magic why won't grasping vines work anywhere?? Hmmm?? Druids can control nature to a certain extent and use their environment to help them, not completely alter it. They would need to take the moisture from somewhere to create the mist... even if they somehow got the water from an oasis or somthing, the hot dry desert heat would evaporate it.

Title: Re: New Spell: Battle Fog
Post by Mephistroth on 08/22/03 at 16:56:40

The reason druids can't cast grasping vines anywhere is because it uses the 'roots' of vines to grow new ones, and make them attack people. So they can't cast it anywhere because there might not be roots. But, this spell wouldn't need to have any fog there, it just summons it.

Title: Re: New Spell: Battle Fog
Post by AlliedAssault on 08/26/03 at 01:30:50

Quote:

Posted by: Rollers Posted on: 02/20/03 at 23:13:50
hmmm not likly to happen cuz none ever listens or cares about this class so it dont matter but a nice idea!

Dude apparently you havent been playing this game very long. Druids were the basis of a major update which made them a more experienced magic user than a mage. To say noone cares about them is just wrong.

Title: Re: New Spell: Battle Fog
Post by VampyreDarla on 08/26/03 at 01:39:10

No one cares about them. :P

Title: Re: New Spell: Battle Fog
Post by dec on 08/26/03 at 10:55:14

i do

Title: Re: New Spell: Battle Fog
Post by Ashton on 08/26/03 at 11:10:56

on 08/22/03 at 16:56:40, Mephistroth wrote:

it would require moisture, something a desert lacks

Title: Re: New Spell: Battle Fog
Post by Mephistroth on 08/26/03 at 11:14:38

No it wouldn't, and I've already explained why.

Edit: Guess I'll explain again. The magic summons the fog in, and the magic keeps it there. It makes no difference if theres moisture there or not.

Title: Re: New Spell: Battle Fog
Post by Conn on 08/26/03 at 20:30:28

I think the Druid class is cared about or it would have been removed. Casting a Fog in a desert is a bit hard to believe. Why not switch desert with swamp? It would be ALOT more resonable.

Title: Re: New Spell: Battle Fog
Post by VampyreDarla on 08/27/03 at 00:10:25

It would only be in the shallow stream area because swamps are lvl 25 and under and this spell is 28-30.

And I still say fog in the desert makes no sense.

Title: Re: New Spell: Battle Fog
Post by Mephistroth on 08/27/03 at 10:37:45

I've given a reason as to why it would work in the desert, and personally I think its a good one. But think about it, if you can only cast this in the shallow stream then wtf is the point in it?

Title: Re: New Spell: Battle Fog
Post by VampyreDarla on 08/27/03 at 18:15:56

I was mentioning the shallow stream in regards to Conn's swamp idea. Not saying it should only be casted there.

OK... fog is made of water vapor, you need moisture to have this. Assuming the druid takes the moisture from the desert plants, clouds, or oasis, the heat would instantly evaporate it. Now your saying the druid should be able to control the scorching heat so that it doesn't evaporate? Even if this is possible somehow, why would the druid want to take the needed moisture from the plants or the clouds? The plants would die and the clouds would not have enough moisture to produce rain and refil the oases. No oasis, no water for the animals. This would disrupt the entire desert ecosystem. Druids=protecting nature not destroying.

Title: Re: New Spell: Battle Fog
Post by Bobbity on 08/27/03 at 18:22:13

on 08/27/03 at 00:10:25, VampyreDarla wrote:

And I still say fog in the desert makes no sense.

It's a game, a lot of games don't make sense. And I see the point you're getting at Mephistroth.

Title: Re: New Spell: Battle Fog
Post by Mephistroth on 08/27/03 at 20:17:42

on 08/27/03 at 18:15:56, VampyreDarla wrote:

OK... fog is made of water vapor

Normal fog is, but this isn't normal fog. This is fog created using magic, which doesn't have to have any rules at all.

Title: Re: New Spell: Battle Fog
Post by CPG on 08/28/03 at 02:59:36

Druids aren't magic users or illusionists. If you are suggesting that the fog can be made out of something else than water, vapor, do explain. They call upon the power of nature, not conjure up smoke like a Mage.

Title: Re: New Spell: Battle Fog
Post by Mephistroth on 08/28/03 at 10:18:43

bah, screw you all then. Your just too d**n stupid to understand anything.

Title: Re: New Spell: Battle Fog
Post by Jurian on 08/28/03 at 13:56:18

you ppl do realise this is a fantasy game? when is the last time you saw a druid morph into a wolf irl?

wtf you ppl making such a fuss about cuz something could or could not be possible irl.

it's a game :D

Title: Re: New Spell: Battle Fog
Post by Ashton on 08/28/03 at 13:59:13

can't make vines everywhere can you? same concept, they control nature and their surroundings with their willpower and the fact that they are so close in tuned with nature, not create 'magical fog' in deserts and summon things from no where, druids are a nature based class not magic based.

Title: Re: New Spell: Battle Fog
Post by Mephistroth on 08/28/03 at 14:08:32

Druids aren't magic based? Ok.. That makes sooo much sense. stormwrath obviously isn't magic is it? neithers stoneform or any other spells.

Anyway, it's not the same concept. Druids can control the weather, and I'd count fog as being part of the weather. It doesn't matter what the conditions are, the druid could still create the fog. You people are just too stubborn and stupid to realize this.

Title: Re: New Spell: Battle Fog
Post by VampyreDarla on 08/28/03 at 18:27:56

Lol Jurians right. Many other things in nm don't make much sense sooo why don't we have fog in a desert... Though I prefer to think it isn't logically possible even in the world of fantasy... but if anyone wants to believe it is, it doesn't matter because if this spell was put into the game it wouldnt really be up to us to decide anyway.

Title: Re: New Spell: Battle Fog
Post by Ice_Cold on 08/30/03 at 06:48:52

where the hell would the fog come from in the dessert? i mean, come on, this is fantasy, but not kindergarden imagination time...

Title: Re: New Spell: Battle Fog
Post by Mephistroth on 08/30/03 at 10:44:31

on 08/30/03 at 06:48:52, Ice_Cold wrote:

where the hell would the fog come from in the dessert?

You are a retard.

Title: Re: New Spell: Battle Fog
Post by Jurian on 08/30/03 at 15:39:05

on 08/30/03 at 06:48:52, Ice_Cold wrote:

where the hell would the fog come from in the dessert? i mean, come on, this is fantasy, but not kindergarden imagination time...

hmm when is the last time a chair attacked you irl? prolly in kindergarden.

Title: Re: New Spell: Battle Fog
Post by VampyreDarla on 08/30/03 at 23:10:42

Well actually one time the wall attacked me irl... it's a long story...

Title: Re: New Spell: Battle Fog
Post by Maltakano on 08/30/03 at 23:48:38

were you "experimenting" at the time ;)