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(Message started by: Ulterium on 02/17/04 at 19:23:00)

Title: PK'er Excuses
Post by Ulterium on 02/17/04 at 19:23:00
I always look at the topics about how people complain about pk'ing and people make mean excuses about how it's fair and good and so on... It usually goes down to players with multiple archies whining when some1 says "i think pk'ing should be contained" or "pk'ing is unfair, and should be monitered to make the game fair". Would you PK supporters please rattle off a few more pitiful, mean, and "it's your problem i killed you for being 10 levels weaker than my superior crit" excuses? It always makes me laugh! :D

Title: Re: PK'er Excuses
Post by alone on 02/17/04 at 19:25:55
They amuse me also.

My favorate line is: But DH doesn't PK...
Always comes from the guy who just tried attacking you.

Title: Re: PK'er Excuses
Post by DragonHeart on 02/17/04 at 20:28:12

on 02/17/04 at 19:25:55, alone wrote:
My favorate line is: But DH doesn't PK...
Always comes from the guy who just tried attacking you.

my cousin and i were training in the swamps,we were attacked by 3 characters from DH saying we attacked them,why would a lvl 20 pally,a lvl 12 druid and a lvl 15 thief attack a cleric and 2 zerkers? we were using macros so how could we have attacked them first?  ???

Title: Re: PK'er Excuses
Post by Phobos on 02/17/04 at 21:07:29
Ulterium, it's all funny until you get pked and whine about it.

Title: Re: PK'er Excuses
Post by alone on 02/17/04 at 21:07:51

on 02/17/04 at 20:28:12, DragonHeart wrote:
my cousin and i were training in the swamps,we were attacked by 3 characters from DH saying we attacked them,why would a lvl 20 pally,a lvl 12 druid and a lvl 15 thief attack a cleric and 2 zerkers? we were using macros so how could we have attacked them first?  ???


There's always three sides to a story. Yours, his and the truth. The truth will never be known. So, it'll just have to drop.

Title: Re: PK'er Excuses
Post by Oz on 02/17/04 at 21:45:59
Alernative 1:

***pages you from (Hidden): wtf did you pk me?
I used to get asked that question..
My responce..

Paged user ***: Because I can, it's fun, and your dumb enough to keep going back to the same spot.

---------
Alterntive 2:

*** pages you from (Hidden): Your going to regret killing me now you f**k.

Paged user ***: lol, here let me cry for you  *sob*

-------
And to all those who needed to get 3+ arches and an expert/arch Cleric to kill Floyd...

LMAO you poor poor sad azz ppl. Fear Tha Floyd!!

Title: Re: PK'er Excuses
Post by Sublime on 02/17/04 at 22:06:56
Oz...

I seem to recall at 1 point you attacking me comming through the forest on my fighter and you were on an expert/adept zerk and a cleric... i logged on a cleric 2 rangers and came back and you said "im not afraid of you i'll take you alone" and then had people come and attack me while i was n of gatehouse... sadly you all failed to get even 1 pk on me before i wrecked your whole party... so "Fear tha floyd" thats a joke in itself... if your gonna act like your good then at least try to be?

Title: Re: PK'er Excuses
Post by Deval on 02/17/04 at 22:19:20

The universal excuse that covers all bases (and my personal favourite line after someone complains about being pk'd) is as simple as 'Sorry, my macro slipped.' ;)

Title: Re: PK'er Excuses
Post by Everlast on 02/17/04 at 23:24:32
Hmm..i get pages from people...a lot of the time i just ignore them...or i reply with "Get some high levels trained and get me back."....revenge is a great motivator, and it'd be nice to see some more new good players...

I like the fact that you start a post saying people make excuses for pking....that fact is one of the reasons i like this game.  There are plenty of games around that prevent pking or make it bad, Nightmist isnt one of them.  I don't see why people always think that just because another game makes it easy for them and keeps the older players at bay, means that nightmist has to do the same, or even should.

That's one of the reasons the 10 level rule was added in, to  keep newer players from being killed constantly.  It wasn't in when i started, and sure i pregnant doged and moaned about the arch masters killing me; however, eventually you get over pregnant doging and moaning and start playing the game. I think you ought to try that rather than complaining on and on, train somewhere else, and maybe pkers won't find you.

Title: Re: PK'er Excuses
Post by Oz on 02/18/04 at 01:33:24

on 02/17/04 at 22:06:56, Sublime wrote:
Oz...

I seem to recall at 1 point you attacking me comming through the forest on my fighter and you were on an expert/adept zerk and a cleric... i logged on a cleric 2 rangers and came back and you said "im not afraid of you i'll take you alone" and then had people come and attack me while i was n of gatehouse... sadly you all failed to get even 1 pk on me before i wrecked your whole party... so "Fear tha floyd" thats a joke in itself... if your gonna act like your good then at least try to be?


Allow me to rephrase what your trying to say...
 "I suck so bad, I couldn't handle you on an equal crit lvl fight, so I went and got my arches thinking I could scare you. I was proven wrong, and you didn't run away."

Now as I recall, I didn't call for any help, they were passing by just at the time. And you my have killed all the low lvl's, but you were healing like a mofo who was on a blow binge.
Keep the story straight.

Title: Re: PK'er Excuses
Post by dognapot on 02/18/04 at 02:23:14
my excuse was always that some people need to be taken down a peg or two and some people can only learn that way. it sounds like you haven't been pk'd enough, ulterium.

Title: Re: PK'er Excuses
Post by Stotic on 02/18/04 at 02:33:48
Lets not turn this into a forum brawl.

Actually I don't care.  I'm just posting this because...

3,000th post!  whooo!

Title: Re: PK'er Excuses
Post by alone on 02/18/04 at 02:36:01

on 02/18/04 at 02:33:48, Stotic wrote:
3,000th post!  whooo!


Well done :)

Title: Re: PK'er Excuses
Post by Deval on 02/18/04 at 02:41:48
* runs to check his own post count.

Modify: Post Count: 2286

I thought I had more than that ^^;; Pffft, doesn't even count 'cool boards' posts, I'd totally have like, ninety million. ::)

Title: Re: PK'er Excuses
Post by Eiements on 02/18/04 at 06:47:54
yea woot bring back killing at all lvls!!! that might stop the whole to many archies problem we got, cause if we make them lose more exp then they get then no more archies!!!

Title: Re: PK'er Excuses
Post by Stotic on 02/18/04 at 06:54:35
In relationship to this:
http://www.nightmist-online.co.uk/cgi-bin/YaBB/YaBB.pl?board=Comments;action=display;num=1047502140

Title: Re: PK'er Excuses
Post by Jurian on 02/18/04 at 09:08:31

on 02/18/04 at 02:33:48, Stotic wrote:
Lets not turn this into a forum brawl.

Actually I don't care.  I'm just posting this because...

3,000th post!  whooo!


n00b :P

Title: Re: PK'er Excuses
Post by Trauma on 02/18/04 at 12:19:13
all i have to say is, when i started this game an arch could kill a level 5 lol.. so these lil tykes have it easy, if they dont wanna get pked.. stay in the arena..poooffff

Title: Re: PK'er Excuses
Post by alone on 02/18/04 at 12:26:09

on 02/18/04 at 12:19:13, Trauma wrote:
all i have to say is, when i started this game an arch could kill a level 5 lol.. so these lil tykes have it easy, if they dont wanna get pked.. stay in the arena..poooffff


Same as.. When I started though, arenas gave normal exp.

Title: Re: PK'er Excuses
Post by Everlast on 02/18/04 at 13:40:51
-nod- same here also...Normal exp in arenas wouldn't make sense anymore with the half exp from orcs also..which still seems dumb to me...

Title: Re: PK'er Excuses
Post by Sublime on 02/18/04 at 19:28:22

on 02/18/04 at 01:33:24, Oz wrote:
Allow me to rephrase what your trying to say...
 "I suck so bad, I couldn't handle you on an equal crit lvl fight, so I went and got my arches thinking I could scare you. I was proven wrong, and you didn't run away."

Now as I recall, I didn't call for any help, they were passing by just at the time. And you my have killed all the low lvl's, but you were healing like a mofo who was on a blow binge.
Keep the story straight.



Ok now listen to what your saying... no crap i healed you idiot you had 20 people hitting me... im not going to lose exp to a fool like you who thinks your good... until you can step to me yourself my opinion of you "you suck"... once you can actually take me alone then ill give you some credit but until then your just a retarded noob who has nothing better to do than brag about your adepts(sad)

Title: Re: PK'er Excuses
Post by Oz on 02/18/04 at 20:23:11
lol, yer a funny lil fart aint cha? Figures you open your mouth after the fact that I quit.  ::)

Now I suggest you stfu while your ahead, and don't make yourself look any more stupid then you already have. ;)

Title: Re: PK'er Excuses
Post by Silverwizard on 02/18/04 at 21:25:52
Well simply put, there is no excuse for pking I mean there is no point it is simply people knocking off other's heads for fun. The all lvling pking allowed was discussed at a 5 lvl difference before it was put in I mean my mage at lvl 5 first thing that happened to him was a lvl 30 knocked off his head with a halberd, try to show me the point to that?

Title: Re: PK'er Excuses
Post by dognapot on 02/18/04 at 22:07:31
i think the point was 'you're not running'.

Title: Re: PK'er Excuses
Post by Trauma on 02/18/04 at 22:58:38
the point is, thats the whole point of this game to pk.. at least i think it is.. this is not aol chat version 9.0 lol... people log on to pk, and to have the right to brag.. now if u lil tykes wanna cry about gettin pked, why dont u go play diablo 2 and make up your own game where u the only one in it, and u cant get pked.. can i get a woot woot..

Title: Re: PK'er Excuses
Post by Isengard on 02/18/04 at 23:19:11

on 02/18/04 at 22:58:38, Trauma wrote:
can i get a woot woot..


woot woot  8)

Title: Re: PK'er Excuses
Post by dognapot on 02/18/04 at 23:29:27
really if you have any problems with the mmorpg you're playing, then chances are you're a progressquest freak who just hasn't come to realize it yet.

Title: Re: PK'er Excuses
Post by Silverwizard on 02/18/04 at 23:47:13
Umm dude this is a MUD not MMORPG.

Title: Re: PK'er Excuses
Post by dognapot on 02/19/04 at 05:13:22
it fits the criteria. it's massively multiplayer, it's an rpg, and it's online. besides, if we have to call it a mud, and we're being particularly asinine, then we should call it a gmud, right?

Title: Re: PK'er Excuses
Post by Ulterium on 02/19/04 at 05:15:12
sry i havnt replyed yet :(. But im not taking sides on pking cuz i do it and its done to me. yes i whine a few times...but dont we all sometimes. and what is with the "i owned u". if some1 says that to me they can give me the money for my crit...i didnt think id get so dang many replys either ;D

But the point of this game changes according to who plays it.
And the people who play it are mainly power hungry, self loving, inconsiderate, bullying people who never take the time to look away from themselves and think about the person behind that computer of the crit they're gonna attack. people all have feelings. so next time ur gonna kill novices with a adept crit... think about the person and not your crit's player kills points. when u go out and kill people multiple times to be mean its a form of ...g2g

Title: Re: PK'er Excuses
Post by Ulterium on 02/19/04 at 18:09:27
As i was saying before i had to leave before finishing my post...if some1 keeps killing you just to be mean and ruin your life, i think it's a form of harrasment and should be delt with. this doesnt mean if ur pk'ed u should be able to say ur being harrased, but if the person kills you multiple times when u ask them to stop and pages u to rub it in... then i think that that's harrasment and should be punished accordingly. ;)
The only thing worse than a player who complains about being pk'ed is the player who killed him rubbing it in and calling the victim rude names when he's the one who did it. Are we really all that mean? What if this were real life? Would we really be able to kill each other and still be able to live with ourselves? if u say "yes" then you're either a cruel, heartless person, or you're just trying to be funny or cool. Think about it and reflect on whether you would really care so little about those less fortunate than you. This is not real life i guess...but from what i've seen...to some people it is.

Title: Re: PK'er Excuses
Post by Tanis on 02/20/04 at 04:35:37
Pking = only fun thing on this game.

Crying about people who pk just because you suck and don't want to lose your -oh so valuable- exp, won't stop you from dying.

No matter how many times you new players bring this topic up, I'ma still be sittin on all 10 of my arch thieves, still pkin' your level 20 fighter, cause truthfully, I don't give a rats behind if you think I suck or not.

Word up Pk'in foo's, still bustin' the newb behind like it's 1999. (yeah and Nightmist wasn't even an idea then, you know how we roll.)

Title: Re: PK'er Excuses
Post by Deval on 02/20/04 at 05:20:13

Slightly off center man once said:

YOUR SPLEEN WILL BE A TRIBUTE TO MY BLOOD GOD!

Title: Re: PK'er Excuses
Post by Tha Girl on 02/20/04 at 08:59:56
***pages you from (Hidden): wtf did you pk me?

Paged user ***: 'cause I like you...

really funny to say;)

Title: Re: PK'er Excuses
Post by Two on 02/21/04 at 01:31:48
here's my quick theory and i'm out:

the great thing about this game is the amount of flexibility in it.  you can totally get sucked into the rping part of it, while being able to play the game without interactin with another player.  on the other hand, you can immerse yourself in the clan drama, and fight all day and night.  the whole pking situation was handled quiet delicately and effectiviely by jlh and pandi by supplying both sides of the spectrum.  you can play crits that are killing machinces (beserkers, rangers, thieves) as well as crits that are litereally impossible to pk.  They also placed guidelines for pking to allow more flexibility, allowing ppl to still kill eachother while allowing the ppl who want no part of it to play on their (to a certain extent).

whatever, i'm sure you all are aware of our situation.

the point is, love it, hate it, the option to kill folk is there.  that's it.  leave it at that.  if you wish to excercise your right, you're allowed.  if you want to be left alone, you were warned, you're given many routes to get around this problem, stop complaining.  not everyone can be satisfied, and i believe the majority of the players like things how they are; otherwise there wouldn't be the largest amount of ip's there have ever been.

some people bully's, some are assess, some are potatos.  the type of person who you are in game/out game is how you deal with this nuts.

i'm out.

Title: Re: PK'er Excuses
Post by Ulterium on 02/23/04 at 19:06:55
[quote author=Tanis link=board=Discussion;num=1077045780;start=20#31 date=02/20/04 at 04:35:37]Crying about people who pk just because you suck and don't want to lose your -oh so valuable- exp, won't stop you from dying. quote]

Not everyone who complains in this game sucks so stop being so self-absorbed and shut up. You arent perfect so why say stuff like that? Get a life and try to consider things other than your hand. ::)

Title: Re: PK'er Excuses
Post by Ulterium on 02/23/04 at 19:08:22

on 02/20/04 at 04:35:37, Tanis wrote:
Pking = only fun thing on this game.

Crying about people who pk just because you suck and don't want to lose your -oh so valuable- exp, won't stop you from dying.

No matter how many times you new players bring this topic up, I'ma still be sittin on all 10 of my arch thieves, still pkin' your level 20 fighter, cause truthfully, I don't give a rats behind if you think I suck or not.

Word up Pk'in foo's, still bustin' the newb behind like it's 1999. (yeah and Nightmist wasn't even an idea then, you know how we roll.)


Not everyone who complains in this game sucks so stop being so self-absorbed and shut up. You arent perfect so why say stuff like that? Get a life and try to consider things other than your hand. ::)

Title: Re: PK'er Excuses
Post by -=ToM=- on 02/23/04 at 20:44:27
just read this and it inspired me to go pking :D

Title: Re: PK'er Excuses
Post by Thrice on 02/23/04 at 23:57:00
Great? You mean ..get PK'ed? ^^

Title: Re: PK'er Excuses
Post by Tanis on 02/24/04 at 01:11:36
Aww, you're such a cute little newbler, Ulterium. The fact that I don't care if I am good, nor do I want to be good at this game, is left out. No where did I say I was good?

You lack the comprehension to carry this conversation any farther, imbecile.

I'll just continue to kill your level 20 with my 10 arch thieves. Cause man, I'm good like that.

Title: Re: PK'er Excuses
Post by Deval on 02/24/04 at 05:50:45
I like the word imbecile. I'll have to remember to use that more often.

Title: Re: PK'er Excuses
Post by Angelus on 02/24/04 at 11:02:58
I don't get this whole thread, since when do pkers need excuses  ???

Title: Re: PK'er Excuses
Post by Diagonyte on 02/24/04 at 15:02:20
I like pking :) i think the lvl cap should be removed.. and when they wine after killing them thats half the fun.

Title: Re: PK'er Excuses
Post by Thrice on 02/24/04 at 16:51:55
Agreed. Lol.

Title: Re: PK'er Excuses
Post by Ulterium on 02/24/04 at 18:42:45
...What is the world coming to when geeks who hide behind a moniter take pleasure in pushing around people they've never met for the single reason of making themselves feel more powerful in an online game that as far as i've seen has only ruined lives...I can't wait to see what happens the day this game crashes or is shut down. Suicide rates would most likely rise a bit, but it would all be for the best...

Title: Re: PK'er Excuses
Post by Deval on 02/25/04 at 00:08:09

on 02/24/04 at 18:42:45, Ulterium wrote:
...What is the world coming to when geeks who hide behind a moniter take pleasure in pushing around people they've never met for the single reason of making themselves feel more powerful in an online game that as far as i've seen has only ruined lives...I can't wait to see what happens the day this game crashes or is shut down. Suicide rates would most likely rise a bit, but it would all be for the best...


You answered your own question in that post.

Title: Re: PK'er Excuses
Post by Tanis on 02/25/04 at 01:04:41
Oh no, Deval! Whatever shall we do! A kid who plays this game, is saying we're geeks! for playing this game!

Tis a pity! An upmost pity!

Geek is a compliment to me. You keep your minimum wage job, I'll continue to follow Gate's 10 step process to a billionaire.

Rock the fro' newbler.

Title: Re: PK'er Excuses
Post by Deval on 02/25/04 at 05:25:41
lol!

GEEKXORS PWN!


Ok... now I think I'm gonna go cry from hurt feelings.



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