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(Message started by: Trauma on 01/28/04 at 00:10:59)

Title: CRAZY PETES..
Post by Trauma on 01/28/04 at 00:10:59
;D  i am not one much to complain, nor is this really a complaint, but id like to know everyones opinion on this.. when i started out, an archmaster could reap (kill) a level 6.. now the limit cap is on (level 10 alt rule) .. that was ok, fair i guess.. now we got crazy petes.. everyone wants to stay there and just hit.. now no one goes out to train hardly and dylan and i are having a hard time pking on our thieves( this is kind of a joke... lol)  cause all the lil tykes are in crazy petes.. so i wish.. ( upon a star ) lol.. that jlh on the next update.. would make crazy petes exp loss.. this would stop the lil tykes from gathering and maybe then they would go train again.. well lets see the views and opinions..

Title: Re: CRAZY PETES..
Post by deadman on 01/28/04 at 00:17:23
I already suggested to get rid of petes but either ur idea or getting rid of it is good bc ppl abuse that place with their run backs and suicidng etc would be good to get them back out trainin.Good Idea

Title: Re: CRAZY PETES..
Post by CPG on 01/28/04 at 00:27:04
What about just removing the level pk restriction in there?

Title: Re: CRAZY PETES..
Post by Dc on 01/28/04 at 00:31:24
if you make it exp loss you might as well just go pk south of nm. it kinda defeats the purpose.

Title: Re: CRAZY PETES..
Post by Deval on 01/28/04 at 00:35:26

... << ... >> ... Crazy Petes is what?...

Title: Re: CRAZY PETES..
Post by Trauma on 01/28/04 at 00:37:34
sorry but i dont call that (pking) you kill someone, you have no stamina, and they run back up and kill you....

Title: Re: CRAZY PETES..
Post by Dc on 01/28/04 at 00:38:05
a place above nm. a free no exp loss sparring arena. with a guy in it....who runs it i guess....named crazy pete.

Title: Re: CRAZY PETES..
Post by CPG on 01/28/04 at 01:11:04

on 01/28/04 at 00:37:34, Trauma wrote:
sorry but i dont call that (pking) you kill someone, you have no stamina, and they run back up and kill you....


People would still do that if it was xp loss. They would probably do it more, even.

Title: Re: CRAZY PETES..
Post by Kazul on 01/28/04 at 01:25:13
i don't think it needs to be exp loss, it's fun going up there, the removal of the level cap i wouldn't mind.  I have always thought that having to run from archs when i was level 18 was what made this game fun and what taught me the map.  Noobs these days have it easy lol.

Title: Re: CRAZY PETES..
Post by Issy on 01/28/04 at 01:27:55

on 01/28/04 at 01:25:13, Kazul wrote:
 I have always thought that having to run from archs when i was level 18 was what made this game fun and what taught me the map.  Noobs these days have it easy lol.


*nod*

I remember running from Ninjakittie, Old_Fart, Pippin and samus.

i became good at running too :)

Title: Re: CRAZY PETES..
Post by deadman on 01/28/04 at 01:36:26
I say remove it all together then bc it really is pointless.

Title: Re: CRAZY PETES..
Post by Chomp on 01/28/04 at 01:49:45
I don't see any problem with it...just because you can't pk someone doesn't mean we should get rid of it....

Title: Re: CRAZY PETES..
Post by Chomp on 01/28/04 at 01:51:10

on 01/28/04 at 01:25:13, Kazul wrote:
i don't think it needs to be exp loss, it's fun going up there, the removal of the level cap i wouldn't mind.  I have always thought that having to run from archs when i was level 18 was what made this game fun and what taught me the map.  Noobs these days have it easy lol.


hehe I remember those days...hehe now that I have archies I would like it to come back into play ^^

Title: Re: CRAZY PETES..
Post by Oz on 01/28/04 at 02:02:16
I say keep it no exp loss but, Remove the lvl cap in Pete's, If you go up you die plain and simple.

Title: Re: CRAZY PETES..
Post by Pandilex on 01/28/04 at 02:09:04
I'm trying to work out what you're arguing against and I can't see anything justified at all...

If people want to go slaughter themselves and each other then by all means let them, if you don't like the room, don't go in it.

Title: Re: CRAZY PETES..
Post by Deval on 01/28/04 at 02:14:25

on 01/28/04 at 02:09:04, Pandilex wrote:
I'm trying to work out what you're arguing against and I can't see anything justified at all...


I think it has something to do with removing the level cap  for the grid??...

Title: Re: CRAZY PETES..
Post by Tadpole on 01/28/04 at 02:26:21
I think the whole point was its reducing the pking in game. With crazy petes ppl just go there and die over and over because they dont lose exp. Now nobody goes out of town. It takes the fun out of it all.

Title: Re: CRAZY PETES..
Post by deadman on 01/28/04 at 02:43:38
I agree with the Frog

Title: Re: CRAZY PETES..
Post by Vodka on 01/28/04 at 03:24:18
It is kind of pointless... people still do their hitting and running and use 2+ alts to kill 1... making it harder to attack. I agree, that you could take off the lvl cap there... since it's supposed to be.. all 'good' and 'fun'.

It gives us something to do. Like previously stated... if you don't want to go up there, then don't.. simple.

Title: Re: CRAZY PETES..
Post by dognapot on 01/28/04 at 05:51:05
what? people weren't pking to be mean? was i the only one? pfff.

also, as long as the deaths are counted in profile, there are some losses to be had there. some of us are proud of our kill:to being killed ratio.

Title: Re: CRAZY PETES..
Post by Deval on 01/28/04 at 05:55:13
wurd

Title: Re: CRAZY PETES..
Post by Consumed on 01/28/04 at 06:06:29
i think petes is gets a bit abused at times... but maybe make it so that u lose half exp per death instead of full ... :-/

Title: Re: CRAZY PETES..
Post by Eiements on 01/28/04 at 06:19:40
well i like the place but i dont like the part about them dieing and ur outta stam and they come back and kill u how about like when u die u have to like wait a few mins to like heal up or something, like "you cant move you still need to rest some from your battle" or something like "your wounds have not healed u must rest here for a little while longer" i think this would fix petes and also running back for other fights such as south of nightmist or even under arilin or rh.

Title: Re: CRAZY PETES..
Post by Lavalamp And Seito on 01/28/04 at 07:19:01
lol, well this ois gonna get flamed but i dont care :) i think that crazy petes should be nopk area because you are supposed to kill HIM and get the drop(if there is one, maybe we would find out if people actually KILLED him instead of flexing their muscles, but i guess thats nm for ya :)), not go up there and slaughter eachother :) but thats just my two cents :)


Title: Re: CRAZY PETES..
Post by Limit on 01/28/04 at 07:19:16
simple solution... have deaths in crazy petes added to profile... if its gonna give people kills it should give them deaths.. that would probably fix things up a bit  ::)

Title: Re: CRAZY PETES..
Post by Kazuya on 01/28/04 at 09:11:57

on 01/28/04 at 02:26:21, Tadpole wrote:
I think the whole point was its reducing the pking in game. With crazy petes ppl just go there and die over and over because they dont lose exp. Now nobody goes out of town. It takes the fun out of it all.


If people dont train, they dont go up lvls. Look at the amount of high lvls.. I'm sure people train. Now you just gotta go find them  ::)


Title: Re: CRAZY PETES..
Post by Oracle on 01/28/04 at 09:27:15

on 01/28/04 at 07:19:16, Limit wrote:
simple solution... have deaths in crazy petes added to profile... if its gonna give people kills it should give them deaths.. that would probably fix things up a bit  ::)


I think you should have deaths counted in there and then you have to weigh the risk of getting a death when you are going in there trying to gain pks.

Title: Re: CRAZY PETES..
Post by Tadpole on 01/28/04 at 09:32:03

on 01/28/04 at 09:11:57, Kazuya wrote:
If people dont train, they dont go up lvls. Look at the amount of high lvls.. I'm sure people train. Now you just gotta go find them  ::)



You mean find ppl then they run like you?  ::)

Title: Re: CRAZY PETES..
Post by Limit on 01/28/04 at 09:34:23

on 01/28/04 at 09:27:15, Oracle wrote:
I think you should have deaths counted in there and then you have to weigh the risk of getting a death when you are going in there trying to gain pks.


it only makes sense  ;D

/t kazuya and a majority of the arches have been arches since before all pking started slowing down. You cant say anything... its a proven fact pking has slowed down because of the way things are... i think wed know considering we pk often enough.

Title: Re: CRAZY PETES..
Post by Pandilex on 01/28/04 at 10:34:55

on 01/28/04 at 02:26:21, Tadpole wrote:
I think the whole point was its reducing the pking in game. With crazy petes ppl just go there and die over and over because they dont lose exp. Now nobody goes out of town. It takes the fun out of it all.


People MUST go out, how else would they train?

Title: Re: CRAZY PETES..
Post by xcelon on 02/02/04 at 13:41:38

on 01/28/04 at 00:27:04, CPG wrote:
What about just removing the level pk restriction in there?

YEY! SOMEONE WITH COMMON SENSE!  ;D

Title: Re: CRAZY PETES..
Post by Stigmata on 02/02/04 at 14:10:31
Personally I think the square is a temporary solution to the renowned 'level 30 boredom' as it is a generally fun place to go (as you know there's going to be someone to pk).

I think where it was added is probably the biggest problem.

Why boar's? Why not resthaven tavern?

The problem this thread refers to is the amount of newbies going into the arena, sitting there and picking up any pots and items that may drop right without the fear of being killed, right?

Well why not move the thing where newbies can't get to?

Putting it above the boar's always seemed strange to me, with the already existing nightmist fighting arena and with all the newbies logging on there (most of the time to see 50 different death messages at once). If I logged on for the first time, and saw that........I probably wouldn't play, because it would give me the idea that the game is based around pking, and little else. The reason i'd get that impression for those wondering - It'd give me the idea (although obviously not true to an extent) that there really isn't anything to do when you hit level 30 apart from mindlessly killing each other. I mean you can get some people who local boar's, die, go back up and die again......repeating this process often 20+ times a minute........I mean I know what i'd think logging on for the first time.


Basically the point i'm making, albeit a long one, is that the arena isn't nescessarly a bad thing (those who don't like it, don't use it) but it is definately positioned in the wrong place.

Put it in Harabec or somewhere where newbies cannot get to, and so cannot pick up your pots, and hopefully won't get the wrong impression of the game.

Title: Re: CRAZY PETES..
Post by dognapot on 02/02/04 at 15:44:07
what's the problem with noobs picking up your crap? if you're that hard up maybe you're in the wrong place. then why would anyone even go in there with pots? seems like a waste of time, because most likely, you'll just die. besides, noobs cn sell your stuff and it'll make a difference to them. a full set of pots could be a full set of equipment for a noob. i really think pete's is fine. it's like the central theme of nightmist: random, and inconsequential slaughter by the bucketfull.

Title: Re: CRAZY PETES..
Post by CPG on 02/02/04 at 16:57:40
Your post made me chuckle Ste. It's just funny because the game, for the most part, IS based around pk'ing.

I agree with dognapot. Even I will admit to pot stealing. Really, that was such an easy 5k. Your intelligence level is lacking if you tae pots up there.

Title: Re: CRAZY PETES..
Post by Oracle on 02/02/04 at 17:33:13
I think one reason for it being placed above boars tusk was so that more people were attracted to the area noobs are in so hopefully you would be able to help them out more. Boars Tusk was kinda deserted before this was added.

I don't see a problem with the location but I do think in all sparing arenas including pete's there should be no level pking restriction simply because you go in there to fight what ever level you are so you should be able to attack people of any level.



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