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Title: Quest Post by -Gaddy- on 08/23/03 at 05:00:53 I think it was good to make a quest, but could there be something a bit more...interesting than having to find a particular weapon to hit a box with? Couldnt there be something set-up where a 1 time boss of some kind appears somewhere and people have to find it and kill it or something that atleast involves more than walking around looking for weak weapons to hit chests with...i just really think that the quests are very poor when they're like that. |
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Title: Re: Quest Post by Outsider on 08/23/03 at 09:57:40 Why do they call it a quest if a journeyman druid can obtain it, its more like a giveaway. A real quest should be stuffed somewhere in the desert, only to be found a week after it was placed, thats a real quest. |
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Title: Re: Quest Post by Eternyte on 08/23/03 at 10:35:02 Yep, I agree totally. Complete lack of imagination. Then why broadcast the whole thing. Just leave the chest in the middle of now where. Have the towncriers say a tiny hint. Even have the quests taking a week to do, as it takes times for different clues to appear or to be figured out. Quests are too simple, and arent planned or thought out. The thief quest was the closet thing to a real quest we've seen in ages. Although that was over and done with way to quickly. |
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Title: Re: Quest Post by Mephistroth on 08/23/03 at 10:36:47 Yeah, not to mention the fact that the n00b who got the item is now ranked second in game ::) (Talking about the Boots of Haste) |
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Title: Re: Quest Post by Oracle on 08/23/03 at 14:40:44 Well I'm sure pandilex wont do another quest for you then if it was that bad. I say good try pandilex but they are not easily satisfied. Maybe if we devote a whole day to a quest there might be someone with gratitude? Alot of our time though and there will probably be more complaints than compliments as usual so you see why it's not worth our while? |
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Title: Re: Quest Post by Outsider on 08/23/03 at 14:47:33 Lol, nice rp there, k time to make a quest. Lets dump an item on a square and give a system message that its there. First one gets it ::) Its not even a quest its a gift. how in the hell should a journeyman be able to get an item like that. u shouldve put the quest somewhere where almost noone comes, defend it by 3 ultimate monsters etc. This, this was just a present for whoever tripped over it first. |
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Title: Re: Quest Post by Mephistroth on 08/23/03 at 16:01:20 on 08/23/03 at 14:40:44, Oracle wrote:
Cut the bullsh*t. Pandilex said himself that he doesn't like having the 'balance of power' distrubted.. and yet a new player to the game already has the best weapon in game, 17 mill gold and several one a day items and frankly.. theres no ****ing way that should happen. |
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Title: Re: Quest Post by Lady_Maha on 08/23/03 at 16:05:32 Has anyone ever considered that the way you say things may make the difference? The way things are said here, it wouldn't surprise me if none of the staff are willing to even think about a "real" quest. Instead of "that wasn't even a quest, it was a waste of system broadcasts, boring and stupid" try "I appreciate that you took the time to give us something out of the ordinary, but I have a few ideas how to make quests more interesting and longer lasting". See which one gets more positive response from staff. |
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Title: Re: Quest Post by Mephistroth on 08/23/03 at 16:13:44 I don't care if there response is positive or not, I'll still say what I think. |
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Title: Re: Quest Post by Astrona on 08/23/03 at 16:34:42 Saying what you think gets you no where unless you say it right. But hey, if you want to waste your breath, be my guest. Why should the staff do absolutely anything to attempt to amuse you people, when all you give them is grief or downgrade them for it. Cut the whining already. They don't have to do anything for you what so ever. At least they gave you all the chance to get a questie item period. They didn't even have to do that. How they went about it was their buisness. Sure it may not have been the funnest and most amusing way, but they did it at least. Now on the topic of improving quests. If you would have said it in a better form, as Lady_Maha said, on the Suggestions Forum I bet the staff would have taken your ideas into consideration. It would be a good idea, yes, to have some occasional difficult quests. The staff on the other hand do actually have lives other then bowing down to everyones little whine or problem on this game. Considering all of the whines about cheating, thefts, etc that keep them busy with their current gametime, when should they fit in time to create a quest? Possibly they should just stay cloaked and tell all the players to go to *cough* for awhile so they can plan out these fun and interesting activities for you. Of course, then you all would just whine about staff always doing other stuff and not being around to monitor trades. Viscious cycle isn't it? Look at it from a staff members point of view for once. They work to make new areas for you people to roam around in, they work to fix bugs, run moshes, monitor trades, fix instances of cheating, create new monsters, etc and so forth. Have any of you actually ever looked at the offline developer? All the grid commands that are put into just one square. Yet the staff members make huge areas for you people, taking the time to get out all the bugs, yet the areas are still just flamed. Sort of discouraging don't you think? They didn't have to make the area for you at all to explore, and they didn't have to put all that time and effort into it. Yet they did, to add some more enjoyment and places for players to explore, yet still, they are criticized. Not even constructively, but flat out rudely. A staff member now, takes the time to make a quest, whether it be grand or not, and he's just flamed. He didn't have to do it period. But he did. None of the staff have to do any of this for any of you. And I'm sure they do have much better things to do. There's a very bold line between rude and constructive criticism and it's about time the players on this game realize that, before the staff give up on you ungrateful morons and there is no game for you to pregnant dog about. So how about instead of being ungrateful little ingrids, you show the staff members some respect for once for all of the things they do do, instead of the things they don't. Sure, there's other things a lot of players would like to see happen in the game, including myself. But this isn't the way to go about it. Try some common courtesy, it might get you somewhere. The staff have no obligation to do anything for you. Don't forget that. And then on another gripe, you people want to flame staff for the stupidest crap, yet half of you can't even post threads on the right dang part of the forum! Really. How difficult is that. If you scan over the forum so many threads have been moved recently. Is it really all that difficult to post things in the right place? Sure, some topics are iffy, but most of these are common sense. Give me a break. Just another thing to waste staffies time with. Having to fix everyones moronic placement of their posts on this forum, which, again, the staff don't even have to provide you with to pregnant dog upon. This entire thread itself disgusts me, along with many of the other ones on this forum, and frankly I'm sick of it. It's about time this dirt stops. Edit: Fixed a typo. |
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Title: Re: Quest Post by ImmortalCriminal on 08/23/03 at 16:44:03 I agree with Astrona and Maha on this one. But on another note. Why do all you Guys Post insults and say sh*t is so boring and the staff aint doing anything to Improve the game, let me tell you what i have been around for a long azz time i think pandilex,JLH,Oracle should be pated on the back for all they have done for Us and maybe we should respect that they have other things to do then listen to you B*Tch and Moan about Stupid stuff like make "real" Quests and make better stats etc. i Think you all need to grow the F*ck up or just Leave this game if its so F*cking Boring and lame to you, seriously, i Respect Pandi,JLH anmd oracle for all they have done to make this game so great to play, but what do they get. they get Rude and disguesting insults from the players of nightmist how the game aint Good enough or this area sucks or the exp here sux, perfeeribly i suggest anyone who has something rude and disrespectful to say leave nightmist and shut the Hell up. |
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Title: Re: Quest Post by Astrona on 08/23/03 at 16:46:27 on 08/23/03 at 16:44:03, ImmortalCriminal wrote:
Cheers to that!! |
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Title: Re: Quest Post by Mephistroth on 08/23/03 at 16:56:51 on 08/23/03 at 16:34:42, Astrona wrote:
Same goes to you. I didn't read a word of your pointless crap. Edit: Except that bit, gave up after that. |
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Title: Re: Quest Post by Astrona on 08/23/03 at 17:09:04 If you didn't read it, kudo's to you. I don't really care. Other people will read it though and possibly learn something from it, and it's about time someone does. I can not possibly stress anymore this line: on 08/23/03 at 16:44:03, ImmortalCriminal wrote:
Edit: And you may believe what I had said was pointless, but I presented it properly. Explaining fully my point, and not just utterly flaming you guys for how stupid you're being. I properly puncuated, and spaced out my post to make it easier to read. Something a lot of people on this forum can't seem to handle. |
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Title: Re: Quest Post by Mephistroth on 08/23/03 at 17:21:19 Believe it or not, what I say is normally to improve Nightmist. None of you people seem to have the courage to say whats wrong with the game, you just sit there and kiss up to the staff in fear of being moaned at. How to you expect the game to improve if your all too scared to post about whats wrong with it? |
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Title: Re: Quest Post by Astrona on 08/23/03 at 17:24:50 As I've said before, there's two forms of criticism. Rude, and Constructive. I wasn't fully directing what I said towards you, although for some reason you seem to believe I did. Yes, in this thread, your choice of criticism was rude, I can't say for your others, because I'm not in the mood to look through at them. Yes staff should be notified of what's wrong with the game in order to improve it, but not like that. Edit: And no, it seems like people are to scared to COMPLIMENT the staff by the looks of this forum. |
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Title: Re: Quest Post by Sausage on 08/23/03 at 17:25:49 Has anyone else noticed that 75% of these posts have not been about making better quests? |
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Title: Re: Quest Post by Mephistroth on 08/23/03 at 17:30:49 on 08/23/03 at 17:24:50, Astrona wrote:
How am I meant to know who you aim your comments at? Most of the time you just say 'some of you' or 'most of you'... How am I meant to know if that includes me or not? |
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Title: Re: Quest Post by Astrona on 08/23/03 at 17:35:45 People know if they're doing any of the things that I've mentioned thereof. If you believe I directed it towards you possibly it's a guilty concience. If not, kudos to ya. |
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Title: Re: Quest Post by -Gaddy- on 08/23/03 at 17:41:48 [quote author=-Gaddy- link=board=Comments;num=1061611253;start=0#0 date=08/23/03 at 05:00:53]I think it was good to make a quest, but could there be something a bit more...interesting than having to find a particular weapon to hit a box with?[quote] ..you mean like that..where i said good stuff, but said i thought it could be made a whole lot better |
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Title: Re: Quest Post by Astrona on 08/23/03 at 17:45:46 Yes, your post was fine, possibly would have been better in the Suggestions Forum..if you were Suggesting it..rather then commenting about the current way Moshes are run..But either way..You did post it pretty well. Wasn't overly negative. And explained what you'd like. Some of the replies to ur post though..well..You get the idea. Edit: Instead of calling the current form of questing poor though, it would have been better to merely suggest a new form of quest occasionally. Calling something poor etc, can encite, well the following posts after yours on this thread.. |
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Title: Re: Quest Post by Outsider on 08/23/03 at 17:47:29 d**n, why do u ppl always have to kiss up to staff. We know they do good, we tell them enough on posts, but there are times when they screw up, and we told them that as well. Maybe a little harsh for u, but it wasnt directed to u ppl, staff can take care of themselves. they dont need mommy Maha and Astrona to help them. |
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Title: Re: Quest Post by Astrona on 08/23/03 at 17:49:00 I don't kiss up to staff. I respect them unlike some people here. And no, staff don't receive near enough compliments for what they do. And most of the negativity thrown towards them is worded improperly or totally unneccesary period. |
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Title: Re: Quest Post by Sausage on 08/23/03 at 17:50:36 on 08/23/03 at 17:49:00, Astrona wrote:
Wrong answer. |
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Title: Re: Quest Post by Astrona on 08/23/03 at 17:52:57 I don't, and hold no need to. I just hold a high value of respect for what they do. If you can't handle that, tough. |
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Title: Re: Quest Post by Sausage on 08/23/03 at 17:55:31 I have quite alot of respect for them too. But I don't go around shooting down everything that is said that is in anyway negative about them. I agree some people are turnipes when they talk about staff. But I haven't seen it in this thread. Two words - "Constructive Criticism" |
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Title: Re: Quest Post by Outsider on 08/23/03 at 17:56:21 on 08/23/03 at 17:52:57, Astrona wrote:
And we dont, i even think Pandi couldnt care less about u. Just some girl trying to look good, by saying we're wrong cuz we said a bad thingy against staff. Anyways, i wouldnt get what that noob has in 2 years of playing and he logs on sees a chest bashes it and becomes one of the most powerfull players in NM. |
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Title: Re: Quest Post by -Gaddy- on 08/23/03 at 17:58:58 stop ****ing bickering back and forth, astrona and lady_maha, sometimes people really dont want to have you tell them how to talk and stuff and you just need to let them be. Lady_maha stopped, i was just saying because she often tells people to be more mature..and can because she does behave maturly and is one of my old friends in game. astrona and sausage- stfu no one cares. i was commenting on the quests where jess got bos and this one where boots of haste were given...because i personally dont think they're quests at all...yes like they said...more like giving away new items, it seems to me that they should be something more creative. |
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Title: Re: Quest Post by Astrona on 08/23/03 at 18:00:23 What was being said about the current quests are not Constructive Criticism. And personally I could care less what Pandi thinks about me. Actually I don't believe he likes me that much at all. But that's besides the point. And if you look over this forum, I don't shoot down everything negative said about them. Open your eyes and quit assuming/saying false things. That could be considered slander considering the lack of proof towards those comments. I've said what I wanted to say on this thread. My purpose here was not to argue senseless things with people who just seem to enjoy flaming me for some reason |
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Title: Re: Quest Post by Sausage on 08/23/03 at 18:01:20 WTF gaddy..... I don't like Astrona one bit. I think you might have misunderstood my post..... |
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Title: Re: Quest Post by Outsider on 08/23/03 at 18:02:09 on 08/23/03 at 18:00:23, Astrona wrote:
Maybe u should follow ur own advice ;) |
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Title: Re: Quest Post by Astrona on 08/23/03 at 19:49:49 Outsider I hold reason for everything I say. I don't just say it because it fits the moment and sounds good. Anywho's..! Oracle held a Mosh with a topaz key as the prize. Yay staffies! And no, I'm not sucking up, I have no reason to, I'm married to him. I'm surprised he did though after this mess. |
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Title: Re: Quest Post by Sera on 08/23/03 at 19:55:36 Personally I think all you whiners should quit your pregnant doging. Staff don't have to do the quests, but they do. Granted in your eyes it may have been lacking, but it was something none the less. And why shouldn't low lvls have the oppotunity to get rare items? If people continue to complain when there's a quest...they may just not do them at all... I don't see why you can't just thank staff for the opportunity and go on your merry way. |
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Title: Re: Quest Post by Bill on 08/23/03 at 19:56:48 I agree, there need to be more/more challenging quests, i believe this isn't the first time something like this has happened, i think their was a similar box south of NM a while ago and i heard something about someone attacking Storage Cabinet with a rubber knife and getting something else, nevermind that... What i suggest is that we form a player quest team (again), there has been a few, i think krillick made one or something before he kinda dissapearred and i was also part of one once that never actually happened. :-/ The players involved wouldn't nessicerily (sp) need special abilities, they would just get together and come up with quest ideas and then get help from staff or something. meh... |
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Title: Re: Quest Post by CPG on 08/23/03 at 20:13:07 I have to agree with Mephistroth on the power balance thing. Also with Outsider about that person acquiring than he could in two years of gameplay. To be honest, I find it quite ridiculous that a player of that stature in the game, can have all this nice stuff and not even know how to use it! I bet you his crits will be under xp in no time because he doesn't even know about the half damage rule. Yes, new players should get a chance too, however, they are new players and must earn their way to the top. As far as considering that box a quest, It was more of a glorified riddle. Although I can't see why Pandilex said to try one word commands to open it when you had to attack it. Some things are beyond my comprehension. Now, for the on-topic part, heh. I would love to see something that could actually alter the world of Nightmist. Sure, you can say these monsters are attacking towns, but in actuality, they are just placed there to slay and drop some cool item. I ask again, is that a quest? What I propose is a real-time version of what happened to Jahanna, except over the entire map. It will not be about getting the last hit in on a monster and obtaining some cool item. It will be about home, your city, the safety of the realm of Nightmist! Players must band together in order to stop the vile monster armies to defend their cities. That is a quest. A chance to become a hero, or a chance to become a dark emissary. |
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Title: Re: Quest Post by Sausage on 08/23/03 at 20:17:04 on 08/23/03 at 20:13:07, CPG wrote:
/examine in order to get the spade. |
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Title: Re: Quest Post by Outsider on 08/23/03 at 20:39:42 They ****ed up, they prolly know it. I dont care i still play as i played before, nothing changes for me. I was just pointing out that it was a stupid idea, IF u wanne do quests then do it right or dont do it all. I doubt staff thought this threw, otherwise this never would've been happened. |
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Title: Re: Quest Post by -Gaddy- on 08/23/03 at 20:43:35 sausage i think you mis understood..pandilex was telling us all to use 1 word commands on the d**n box, and then someone comes up and hit it with a spade and happend to get it..seems odd to me that we'd be getting told to do something that wouldnt open it, then people come to hit it with the exact weapon to kill it, Jen had figured on getting the spade too as i understand and she said that the kid who used the spade had taken the one that she'd just done /examine for...how did they know not to use word commands...and why did pandilex get us all confused trying to talk to the box? |
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Title: Re: Quest Post by Sausage on 08/23/03 at 20:46:18 Ya true.. The "quest" should have been thought through better and hopefully there will be better quests in the future. I'm done posting in this topic now. :D |
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Title: Re: Quest Post by -Gaddy- on 08/23/03 at 20:56:49 That is exactly what I was trying to say. I am done on this topic also. |
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Title: Re: Quest Post by Lady_Maha on 08/23/03 at 21:40:04 Outsider, once again you prove that you were raised in a barn. "Mommy Maha" is not kissing up to anyone. Actually, and you can ask Pandilex, if I disagree with something, I will say so. I had times when I pissed him off as well, but not with insults, as you tend to do, but with research and valid arguments. What I would love to see are people who can state their opinion without being all out rude, and you can't seem to accomplish that. There is nothing wrong with disliking certain things in the game, but you should learn to voice your critizism in a more polite manner, even if it is for the plain selfish reason of knowing that otherwise you will get ignored (not undeserved). |
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Title: Re: Quest Post by Outsider on 08/23/03 at 22:38:10 on 08/23/03 at 21:40:04, Lady_Maha wrote:
Shut the **** up, ugly cow, kinda grew tired of the bullnuts u have about my way of writing. Hows that for being rude, stupid pregnant dog. If u knew who i was when i first started u would see my posts were writen in proper english, but after 500 posts u'll get kinda tired of translating it all. And like u said 'ignore' me. Cuz i couldnt give a ****. on 08/23/03 at 21:40:04, Lady_Maha wrote:
I wasn't, u must be talking about my son. |
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Title: Re: Quest Post by Lady_Maha on 08/23/03 at 22:59:38 It's not your way of writing, you ignorant pre-school reject, although that is bothersome enough, it's the fact that you seem to have the most extensive vocabulary of cencored words that I have ever seen, and can't seem to compose a proper English sentense without the use of at least 3 of them. If you had bothered to get your pea-sized brain into gear and check, my first post was directed towards ALL the rude whiners, and I didn't post again until AFTER you decided to attempt to insult me. However, if the shoe fits, so be it. And since this seems to be an insult competition, I will feel free to tell you what I really think of you: Nightmist wouldn't be the same without you. The average IQ on this game would rise by 100% if you left. We would also miss the extensive repertoire in unfortunately censored words that seems to be your only way of expressing yourself. While the rest of Nightmist is using brains to come up with ideas to better the game, the only thing you use is your mouth, which produces the same substance that my intestines create out of the unvaluable remainings of a good meal. |
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Title: Re: Quest Post by Mephistroth on 08/23/03 at 23:00:10 Yeah, I agree totally with you. Her 'I'm better than you' attitude is pissing me off, especially when she isn't. |
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Title: Re: Quest Post by Lady_Maha on 08/23/03 at 23:02:33 Do I sense jealousy? |
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Title: Re: Quest Post by Outsider on 08/23/03 at 23:06:36 on 08/23/03 at 22:59:38, Lady_Maha wrote:
First off, i was waiting for this one, my IQ is 143 i doubt many ppl can top it, i did a test on school, cuz my principel (sp) thought i was gifted. Not that i am but it was close and if u dont believe me i got the test somewhere, i could show u if i could be bothered enough. And if u search threw suggestions u see a lot of good ideas came from me, not all been added but a few nonetheless. |
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Title: Re: Quest Post by Lady_Maha on 08/23/03 at 23:12:46 168 nuff said. Edit: Wait, not enough yet... MENSA member... nuff said now... |
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Title: Re: Quest Post by ImmortalCriminal on 08/24/03 at 00:45:02 Maha Stop arguing with Outsider he is just pushing you to get pissed off and act immature like himself, which i dont believe a Numbskull like Outsider has as High of a Iq then he says he does. Mainly thats his Iq of Rediculious rude and Disrespectful Manner he had posted, but Maha you aint like him dont let him bring you to his lvl of immature and disrespectfulness towards others, i Suggest Outsider go back to school and stop Skipping he might learn something, but on the other hand he might die from the pressure of Knowledge that would enter his brain. |
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Title: Re: Quest Post by Chrysalis on 08/24/03 at 00:48:20 My god, jealousy up the wazoo! lol, Sheesh Maha I never knew you had so many people that wished nothing more to have accomplished as much as you. Personally, I think you guys need to learn to respect your elders, and their intelligence. Not all of you fools who spend their entire 'lives' braving to train a picture are immature 12 year olds. Grow up. |
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Title: Re: Quest Post by Oracle on 08/24/03 at 03:08:19 I think it's quite obvious no "quest" ideas are going to come from this thread, be glad some of this direct insulting is not being punished, leave it behind with this thread. |
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