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(Message started by: Insomnia on 08/21/03 at 01:45:00)

Title: Topaz keys?
Post by Insomnia on 08/21/03 at 01:45:00
It's been a while since I actually saw staff dropping topaz keys.. I just don't see any point in completely blocking off the access to an area - aren't you supposed to create new areas, not close the ones we've already got?

However, would be nice to see more bartender blood, and why not give them out as prices in moshes/other events? Or maybe even quests? :o

Piz.

Title: Re: Topaz keys?
Post by Proteus on 08/21/03 at 08:38:57
I think its because some ppl cheated the system and killed the lag monster alot with only 1 key. So there waiting a bit to let it balance out.

Title: Re: Topaz keys?
Post by Sausage on 08/21/03 at 10:08:05
In light of that Archie, I think that after you kill the Lag Monster you get sent back to Boars Tusk Inn. Whatcha think?

Title: Re: Topaz keys?
Post by Jurian on 08/21/03 at 10:17:55

on 08/21/03 at 10:08:05, Sausage wrote:
In light of that Archie, I think that after you kill the Lag Monster you get sent back to Boars Tusk Inn. Whatcha think?


they allready made it so you can't log off at lag monster anymore.
edit: and yes i think there should be a diff way to obtain a topaz key.

Title: Re: Topaz keys?
Post by Sausage on 08/21/03 at 10:19:31
Can you leave the square after you kill him though?

Title: Re: Topaz keys?
Post by Jurian on 08/21/03 at 10:22:27
think you can you just can't log anywhere that's below boars

Title: Re: Topaz keys?
Post by Sausage on 08/21/03 at 10:24:29
I know. But can they move away from the Lag Monster square? If so then they could just stay logged on (which would be a bish) and then go and check on the Lag Monster.

Title: Re: Topaz keys?
Post by Stotic on 08/21/03 at 18:18:02
With the amount of people it takes to kill the Lag Monster I doubt they'd be able to get the adequate amount of people to stay logged on til next spawn.

Title: Re: Topaz keys?
Post by SullenUrchin on 08/21/03 at 22:41:45
well if there where more spy glasses we could just sneak a peak and gather the people as it is now with all the people I know I can get about 20 ppl together fairly quickly how many dose it take to kill the lag moster any ways?

Title: Re: Topaz keys?
Post by Jurian on 08/21/03 at 22:54:10

on 08/21/03 at 22:41:45, SullenUrchin wrote:
well if there where more spy glasses we could just sneak a peak and gather the people as it is now with all the people I know I can get about 20 ppl together fairly quickly how many dose it take to kill the lag moster any ways?


20 archies? just from what i've heard (never been there cuz i'm not popular enough to get invited to trips to lag monster) but ehm even with spyglass you can't spy on his square from boars if i'm correct :D

Title: Re: Topaz keys?
Post by Stotic on 08/22/03 at 06:10:49
More than 20.  :)  

Title: Re: Topaz keys?
Post by SullenUrchin on 08/22/03 at 07:11:48
never been down there but I don't see why not if its only 1 sqare down

Title: Re: Topaz keys?
Post by Stotic on 08/22/03 at 08:13:21
hmmmmff ack ::cough::

Title: Re: Topaz keys?
Post by Jurian on 08/22/03 at 08:21:52

on 08/22/03 at 07:11:48, SullenUrchin wrote:
never been down there but I don't see why not if its only 1 sqare down


i got told it isn't just you square :D

Title: Re: Topaz keys?
Post by GoLdEnStAr on 08/22/03 at 13:22:20
its a series of squares

Title: Re: Topaz keys?
Post by Insomnia on 08/22/03 at 15:36:32

on 08/22/03 at 06:10:49, Stotic wrote:
More than 20.  :)  

Me and Will did it with like 16 level 25 crits a -while- ago.. took us almost 2 hours though. :)

Title: Re: Topaz keys?
Post by Oracle on 08/22/03 at 18:46:41
I made that area when I was learning how the grid systems worked and playing around with the commands.

Apon going down from boar tusk, the key still stays on the player so someone with the key can move up and down there as he pleases but... to get onto the actual boss square you need the key and it is there you lose it as you enter. So you lose the key getting to the boss and you cannot logg off on the boss square and as soon as you leave the boss square, you need the key to get back.

Unless you can see a loop in that, (in which case I probably didn't explain well enough), there is no problem anymore with the topaz key being used more than once.

I did a while back post on the staff forum (months back lol) that I would think it good for the game to have a boss in a different area drop the topaz key. I never got a reply. I still think it may be a good idea or else maybe I'll give a topaz key for a couple of moshes if the admins are ok with it at the time.

Edit: I should maybe say, i believe pandliex deserves the credit for stopping that problem with the people using the topaz key more than once, he changed it to how it is now and it was probably my fault that people could do that in the first place.

Title: Re: Topaz keys?
Post by -Gaddy- on 08/23/03 at 20:45:30
WOOT! nice.

(im talking about the lvl 30 mosh with the topaz key prize)

Title: Re: Topaz keys?
Post by Oracle on 08/24/03 at 03:00:18
Yeah, when pages died down a little today and I thought it about time for a mosh I asked JLH's approval and he said ok so did my Topazermous Moshermous! :)

Trite won it.

Title: Re: Topaz keys?
Post by Ice_Cold on 08/24/03 at 05:03:46
it would be interesting if you had a level 1 mosh for a topaz :)

Title: Re: Topaz keys?
Post by Sausage on 08/24/03 at 05:05:57
Or not.  :)

Wouldn't it be cool if this "Topaz Mosh" was held monthly?

Title: Re: Topaz keys?
Post by -Gaddy- on 08/24/03 at 07:53:01
...atleast make it weekly...if not daily...instead of the boar's tusk bartender being killed have a mosh for it..

lvl 1 mosh for a topaz key makes no sense cause a lvl 1 could make no use of it, would have to be lvled to 3 just to give it to alts...doesnt make sense...

Title: Re: Topaz keys?
Post by Sausage on 08/24/03 at 17:44:38
If it were weekly, it seems to me there would be to many floating around. Although monthly does seem a little long. How about bi-weekly?

Title: Re: Topaz keys?
Post by Insomnia on 08/24/03 at 19:53:04
Eh? Why would it be 'too many' if it was weekly? Most people will probably go max 1 day after they got key (unless they sell it) - so actually, if it was weekly you'd probably not see very many in game.. and prices would stay around 300K+..

Title: Re: Topaz keys?
Post by -Gaddy- on 08/25/03 at 05:08:48
/nod  prices used to be over 1 mill..thats just retarded..because it isnt that good (compared to AoH), i think it being priced at around 300k would make sense...give people a reason to lvl to arch..so they can sell their AoHs on those crits to get aolps and have 3 for 1 or so...

Title: Re: Topaz keys?
Post by Zephie on 08/25/03 at 18:51:17
Monthly is better, the idea is not to overflood NM with items such as SGs and CR's ....keep things a little rare.

Title: Re: Topaz keys?
Post by SullenUrchin on 08/26/03 at 06:57:50
but now we get into the debate of quantity and if you get right down too it only ppl who can get these things are ppl with a bunch of arch's in a clan wich leaves even those with arch's in no clan or a small clan nothing...but I don't see the point in arguing this the ppl who got it don't wana give up any thing so it will never change (not that I'm saying nessacrly to just make it so every 1 under the sun can get it) but I don't know

Title: Re: Topaz keys?
Post by -Gaddy- on 08/26/03 at 22:24:50

on 08/25/03 at 18:51:17, Zephie wrote:
Monthly is better, the idea is not to overflood NM with items such as SGs and CR's ....keep things a little rare.



but it seems like i see them on a TON of crits, basically only ones in larger clans since they're the ones that can really get partys to kill it, i think if it were weekly you'd still have it fairly rare...12 a year?...thats less than Emerald Daggers and stuff like that...it doesnt seem like they should stay that rare...cause some of use dont have the gold to spend on an AoH, but stand an alright chance of winning a 1 time a week mosh to get stuff for their archies..or sell to get going towards buying an AoH..since i see AoHs as much better than AoLP...but then again..the game isnt made just for me..so it wont always be done the way i want it to be.../shrug, i hope there'd be more than just 1 a month anyway...
-Gaddy

Title: Re: Topaz keys?
Post by Sausage on 08/26/03 at 23:37:18
There are all those AoLPs out and there has only been one Topazerous whatever held. I highly doubt staff will stop the interesting bartender killings, and the sudden gatehouse drops. The mosh is just a steady way to gain access to the key. I don't think they should be held to often.

Title: Re: Topaz keys?
Post by ThaGChild on 08/29/03 at 07:21:37
i think u should get a topaz key from Aet'Thol. i mean it should be that u have to kill a hard boss, to get to another hard boss. but u shlould only get the key on like a 10% chance. anyone else catchin my drift.......

Title: Re: Topaz keys?
Post by Deval on 08/29/03 at 07:36:27
I'm catchin ur drift... it's just a bit stinky. :-X

Rather than make it an alternate drop, it'd be nice to see another area put in for it, alternatively, how many people can be bothered killing that stupid storage cabinet in the barracks. Increase the life of the storage cabinet, make it a little harder to get to, or if your ambitious, chuck a huge chunk onto the racks, and put the key in the cabinet, then make it spawn once every 3 days, with a 40% chance to drop the key, ther other 60% being the cash you normally get out of it.

Title: Re: Topaz keys?
Post by Roc on 09/01/03 at 00:03:52
Oracle gave a Topaz Key to you.


Woot I won something. Great idea. This is a great addition to the moshing aspect of the game.
O.K. Oracle no more tricycle jokes. Thanks for hosting this type of mosh.

Title: Re: Topaz keys?
Post by Zephie on 09/01/03 at 05:00:51

on 08/26/03 at 22:24:50, -Gaddy- wrote:
i think if it were weekly you'd still have it fairly rare...12 a year



quick, someone remind gaddy how many weeks in a year!

Title: Re: Topaz keys?
Post by -Gaddy- on 09/01/03 at 06:01:42

on 09/01/03 at 05:00:51, Zephie wrote:
quick, someone remind gaddy how many weeks in a year!


Jen, I'm sure that you saw that i was replying to your post where you said monthly..12 months a year, suggested weekly (52 a year?)...stop trying to mis-quote me by taking things out of how they were stated.



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