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(Message started by: Ste on 07/05/03 at 22:40:33)

Title: well, this is the comments forum
Post by Ste on 07/05/03 at 22:40:33
My comment is that nightmist sucks, its the worst game ever, how can you call this an RPG? its an ADVENTURE GAME, goto www.gamearchives.com and you will see, that nightmist is listed in the ADVENTURE GAMES archive, because somebody clever enough to realise put it there.  This game gives us RPG makers a bad name, and the players suck ass too, so you give roleplayers a bad name... no go away and die

Title: Re: well, this is the comments forum
Post by Exor on 07/06/03 at 00:39:46

on 07/05/03 at 22:40:33, Ste wrote:
My comment is that nightmist sucks, its the worst game ever, how can you call this an RPG? its an ADVENTURE GAME, goto www.gamearchives.com and you will see, that nightmist is listed in the ADVENTURE GAMES archive, because somebody clever enough to realise put it there.  This game gives us RPG makers a bad name, and the players suck ass too, so you give roleplayers a bad name... no go away and die


Haha you just say this because everyone hates you and thinks your game is a ripoff of this and rok.

Title: Re: well, this is the comments forum
Post by Pile on 07/06/03 at 01:53:46
I would have thought that having your own game and facing similar problems of mindless fools posting any crap that comes to mind, you would have tried not to be an annoying cabbage.

Really, we don’t want to know. Nobody made you play this game, why don’t you just go away without the tantrum…


Title: Re: well, this is the comments forum
Post by Pile on 07/06/03 at 01:55:07
hmm cabbage is good too

Title: Re: well, this is the comments forum
Post by Lady_Maha on 07/06/03 at 02:58:14
Gwerradon, this is the third post of yours I stumble over in which you try to bash NM. What's your point? You got your game Feudal in development, you quit playing NM. Why insult all those who wish to play NM still? You don't like the game, fine, but stop acting like a toddler and posting on every board that the game sucks, because it's getting annoying.

Title: Re: well, this is the comments forum
Post by Stotic on 07/06/03 at 03:24:04
Well, then why did you make your game a copy of Nightmist?

<Sorry, I couldn't help it>

Title: Re: well, this is the comments forum
Post by Sausage on 07/06/03 at 05:06:09
LMFAO Very good Stotic. Even if you're game isn't a copy of nightmist just leave already.

Title: Re: well, this is the comments forum
Post by Selene on 07/06/03 at 06:29:45
I'm confused. He makes this looong leaving post.. that was considerate of people.. and well written.. then he comes along and acts all immature.. complaining about the people and Nightmist. Well, which is it..?! Sheesh.

Title: Re: well, this is the comments forum
Post by Sausage on 07/06/03 at 09:40:00
The second one.

Title: Re: well, this is the comments forum
Post by Outsider on 07/06/03 at 09:43:33
Why do u talk bad about NM, when ur game isnt even finished. And i would play it at first but after all these comments u made about NM i wont.

K that as far as my decent writing goes.

U stu­pid ret­ard, u told everyone u would quit, and u still hang around on the forums. U Just let everyone see that u urself think that ur game su­cks, cuz if u liked it u would finish it instead of roaming the forums here. Not to mention that ur game has the text of RoK and the client of NM (hurrya u changed some colors). But anyways seeing as u ban everyone who post something on ur forums that u dont like, i suggest JLH does the same. And then its bye bye Gwerradon...

Title: Re: well, this is the comments forum
Post by Harath on 07/06/03 at 10:32:05
noticed how nobody really likes you ste? why don't you join your rejects and go play FO. oh wait.. THE GAME ISN'T EVEN MADE! i suggest you stfu and go make it.. oh wait, YOU CANT EVEN USE VB! how do you plan to make a game in VB if you don't know how to use it? just goes to show how stupid you are.

Note: my comments come from the FO forum, where hes openly admitted that he can't use VB, and he has nobody to program the game. I would get quotes, but hes banned me for saying his games a copy of nightmist.. as the saying goes.. the truth hurts.

Title: Re: well, this is the comments forum
Post by Bobbity on 07/06/03 at 10:56:35
If he hasn't programmed the game yet how the hell has he got screenshots?

Title: Re: well, this is the comments forum
Post by Harath on 07/06/03 at 10:57:07
he made them in paint or some other program like that.

Title: Re: well, this is the comments forum
Post by Bobbity on 07/06/03 at 10:58:11
Then they're not screenshots lmao..

Title: Re: well, this is the comments forum
Post by Harath on 07/06/03 at 11:00:41
well, depends. they could be screenshots of the program hes using, which just happens to have those pictures up ;p

Title: Re: well, this is the comments forum
Post by Outsider on 07/06/03 at 11:01:23
He will make the game look exactly like that, so its basically a screenshot.

Title: Re: well, this is the comments forum
Post by Oracle on 07/06/03 at 14:48:51
If you think that by keep bringing up how bad nightmist is and advertising your game is going to give you more players you are very wrong because everyone else who reads what you put loves nightmist and is more likely to hate you and your game.

Edit: You may be about to say you didn't advertise it on this thread but you have on others and anyone who reads the forum frequently will know that that is what your after doing.

Title: Re: well, this is the comments forum
Post by Lady_Maha on 07/06/03 at 15:42:58
You're right, they ARE screenshots. Screenshots of Nightmist modified in a pic editing program.

I'm sorry Gwerradon, you seemed like a cool person, but after seeing all those posts of yours I changed my mind to the other extreme. By telling all Nightmist players they suck @$$ and insulting them you also insulted me, since I am one of them.

Anyway, just wanted to clear up the screenshot mystery here.

Title: Re: well, this is the comments forum
Post by Sausage on 07/06/03 at 19:52:41
I totally agree Lady_Maha. I actually was looking foward to playing his game. I was going to look past the graphics looking like Nightmist and RoK. The gameplay itself looked good. The shops and the stat deal and all that. But you can forget that now you immature little....  :-X

Title: Re: well, this is the comments forum
Post by Exor on 07/06/03 at 20:27:23
I think he copied his stat thing from D2 lol

Title: Re: well, this is the comments forum
Post by Sausage on 07/06/03 at 20:28:55
Well in that case I'm glad I decided to not play his game.  :D


Edit: I think Gwerradon may have left!  :o  8)

Title: Re: well, this is the comments forum
Post by Exor on 07/06/03 at 20:30:52
i believe his stat thing is that each level you add 5 stat points or so to a skill, and same with spells i think.If thats the case then yes he did copy it from diablo2 lol.

Title: Re: well, this is the comments forum
Post by Stotic on 07/06/03 at 20:43:29
Actually he could of made the client with vb.  It requires no programming.  Just dragging boxes and adding text etc.  I have done it before.  The programming part is for actual things to work which he probably hasn't done.  Its visual basic not c++ where you have to define every value for everything.

Title: Re: well, this is the comments forum
Post by Sausage on 07/06/03 at 20:44:10
Tsk tsk Gwerradon tsk tsk..  >:(

Title: Re: well, this is the comments forum
Post by Harath on 07/06/03 at 21:10:00

on 07/06/03 at 20:30:52, Exor wrote:
i believe his stat thing is that each level you add 5 stat points or so to a skill, and same with spells i think.If thats the case then yes he did copy it from diablo2 lol.


nah, hes stolen it from dungeon siege. you get three stats, might, magic and dexterity. as you use melee combat, your might increases, as you use ranged attackes your dext increses and as you use magic your magic increases. the higher the stat the more effective it becomes. basically its like leveling up each stat. all hes done is rename them, to will, might and grace i think.

Title: Re: well, this is the comments forum
Post by Bobbity on 07/07/03 at 17:40:02
It's been made in vb, theres some screenshots on his forum lol

Title: Re: well, this is the comments forum
Post by Bill on 07/07/03 at 22:39:40
Ok this is Ste.... first of all, how can i edit the nightmist screen to look like that?  why would i want too?  secondly, yes, the screenshot was made BY ME in adobe photoshop, as im a decent gfx designer.  and yes, the game is being coded in Visual Basic, by a coder.  and agian, yes, i do not know Visual Basic myself, but thats why we are working in a team, you dont see managers of a superstore at the checkout do you?  no, i think not.  And i have no idea why you people are insulting my game when you know nothing about it.  So what if it has features which other games have, who cares? nightmist has fighting arenas, nightmist has player pics, nightmist has taverns, nightmist has clans, nightmist has banks.... funnily enough, SO DOES REALMS OF KAOS!  alot of features in games, are seen on other games, its just how it works.  im not here to lie to you, but i didnt EDIT the nightmist screen, i simple created my own graphical interface, which i thought would be more helpful, and easier to use for players, so who cares what it looks like? as long as its fun, what does it matter?  and yes ok i got carried away on these forums, and i apologise for my imature and selfish actions, but it doesnt give you the right to insult me this much, and abuse me for everything i do.  and yes, ive left, i felt my actions were imature, and i wasnt going to carry on this whole nonsence.  so please, forget about the past, and enjoy yourselves by playing the game you love, feel free to drop by and try feudal, as i have no objection of you doing so.  this post was simple to apologise for my actions, and explain to people, that most of the rumors arnt true.  Thanks to bill for letting me use his account to explain, and i wish you all good luck, and happy roleplaying.  8)

Title: Re: well, this is the comments forum
Post by Bean on 07/08/03 at 04:52:02
someone pm me the link to his game.

Title: Re: well, this is the comments forum
Post by Pandilex on 07/08/03 at 06:48:57
Should see the client for my game, it has tons of code in... so does Nightmist client I expect.

But really lets stick to Nightmist and quit talking about other games... It shares a few common features, but copyright comes in with innovative or revolutionary ideas. No-one can build a house without bricks, but someone could design it in such a way as it appealed to millionaires.

Title: Re: well, this is the comments forum
Post by Outsider on 07/08/03 at 07:44:23

on 07/07/03 at 22:39:40, Bill wrote:
And i have no idea why you people are insulting my game when you know nothing about it.


I dunno, but maybe its cuz u told us to die or the fact that every NM player is an idiot according to u.

Title: Re: well, this is the comments forum
Post by Epic on 07/08/03 at 15:41:26

on 07/08/03 at 06:48:57, Pandilex wrote:
No-one can build a house without bricks, but someone could design it in such a way as it appealed to millionaires.


Words of wisom

Title: Re: well, this is the comments forum
Post by Harath on 07/08/03 at 17:25:31
I've seen houses made of mud. Not bricks, mud. Therefore the 'words of wisdom' aren't actually true.

Title: Re: well, this is the comments forum
Post by Bobbity on 07/08/03 at 18:13:04
A house made of mud is a mud hut, not a house.

Title: Re: well, this is the comments forum
Post by Outsider on 07/08/03 at 18:21:09
Arent bricks made of mud/clay?


edit: Wooden house? Marble House? Golden house...  ;D

Title: Re: well, this is the comments forum
Post by Harath on 07/08/03 at 19:00:40

on 07/08/03 at 18:13:04, Bobbity wrote:
A house made of mud is a mud hut, not a house.


This was a house, hence the reason I called it a mud HOUSE.

Title: Re: well, this is the comments forum
Post by Jurian on 07/08/03 at 19:09:03
most books look the same, they all got a cover and text in it. yet some are worth reading some are not. some sell millions some don't even sell 10.

it's the inside not the outside that counts.

Title: Re: well, this is the comments forum
Post by Lady_Maha on 07/08/03 at 19:48:02
I will attempt to interpret Pandilex's wise words (may he forgive me if my interpretation is completely false).

Nobody can build a house without bricks (or material, whether it be wood, mud, whatnot), but design one that would appeal to a millionaire.

Now the way I understand him here is that Gwerradon may have the ideas and designs for a nice game, but not the knowledge to actually create it, unlike JLH and Pandi, who not only have the ideas, but also the knowlege (bricks) to build the game.

He may be able to design nice graphics and create images of how his client WOULD look like, but if graphic design was the only element needed, a lot of people would have created MuD games by now.

To make a long story short, Gwerradon may be a good architect, but no architect can put up a house without material and workers.

Title: Re: well, this is the comments forum
Post by Bean on 07/08/03 at 21:26:32
Yes, But if it appeals to a millionare, he would be willing to fork up the cash to build it  ;)


Edit:And could someone please Send me that link?

Title: Re: well, this is the comments forum
Post by Harath on 07/08/03 at 22:04:59
http://www.feudalonline.com/

Title: Re: well, this is the comments forum
Post by Stotic on 07/09/03 at 01:32:37
Those 404's are sexy, eh?

Title: Re: well, this is the comments forum
Post by Lady_Maha on 07/09/03 at 01:42:42
Lady_Maha nods her head in agreement with Stotic.

Title: Re: well, this is the comments forum
Post by Bill on 07/09/03 at 03:05:14
this is ste.... people are gunna hate bill, its confusing, i should have my own account, but that means talking to JLH, the owner of the game that hates me to let me post  lol

the site hasnt been worked on, because the game is not up, therefor, does not need to be looked at.   :)

And pandi is right.  BUT, you guys dont get it.  just because i own the game, the site, and im the boss, doesnt mean i SHOULD code it?  does a manager at a supermarket sit at the checkout?  no.  The staff of feudal online work in a team.  just because JLH and Pandi can code, and they administrate the game, doesnt mean i have to be like them, and i will not.  i admit, i envy them for their success, but they are not gods, we dont have to act like them (pandi may dissagree  lol)

Title: Re: well, this is the comments forum
Post by Insomnia on 07/29/03 at 13:29:13

on 07/07/03 at 22:39:40, Bill wrote:
as im a decent gfx designer.

Then why does it look so bad?

Title: Re: well, this is the comments forum
Post by deSade on 07/30/03 at 20:09:42
From the feudalonline link:

Feudal Online is no longer going ahead. I'd just like to thank everybody for helping out, and maybe ill be talking to you again in the near future. good luck

Whoops  ::)

Title: Re: well, this is the comments forum
Post by Wise_Crack on 07/30/03 at 20:12:03
/t desade ;p i didn't know u were in that project

Title: Re: well, this is the comments forum
Post by deSade on 07/30/03 at 20:16:11

on 07/30/03 at 20:12:03, Wise_Crack wrote:
/t desade ;p i didn't know u were in that project


I wasn't, just checked the link and thats all there is.

Has your bro' dropped off the face of the earth or something? He hasn't logged in ages?

Title: Re: well, this is the comments forum
Post by Wise_Crack on 07/30/03 at 21:30:49
/t desade  :-/ me and my bro have a summer school now
he's playing icewind dale 2 now, ;p got addicted to it for some better reasons than nm bah! that's just disgrace...



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