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(Message started by: dognapot on 03/12/03 at 20:48:59)
Title: Great idea to solve level 30 problem!
Post by dognapot on 03/12/03 at 20:48:59
i thought long and hard for this one folks!

Kill People

yes, killing people on thier way to archmaster sets them back, and if you make it a point to prevent them from training in thier favorite place for the night (by killing them of course) you've also prevented them from breaking even for thier time. Lots of people can talk about the "lvl 30 problem" but who here will do something about it! so next time you feel the journey to archmaster has become a kiddy ride, take matters into your own hands and cover them with blood!
Title: Re: Great idea to solve level 30 problem!
Post by Zephie on 03/12/03 at 22:20:35
Alas, an idea that will actually work! Let's all work together and keep level 29's from leveling to 30!


Together we can make a difference!
Title: Re: Great idea to solve level 30 problem!
Post by dognapot on 03/12/03 at 23:25:22
yes, if we pull up our sleeves and do our part we can solve "the lvl 30 problem" ourselves!
Title: Re: Great idea to solve level 30 problem!
Post by Blast on 03/13/03 at 14:59:40
wtf? i dont get it... why is it bad that ppl are lvl 30s?
Title: Re: Great idea to solve level 30 problem!
Post by newb on 03/14/03 at 18:55:55
Solving the lvl 30 "problem" - Don't get to lvl 30 /shrug
Title: Re: Great idea to solve level 30 problem!
Post by Tender_Foot on 03/14/03 at 19:56:48
Hmmm, I dont think I quite like this idea. The other day, my party was pk'ed by a group of 8 arch's to my 4 crits all below lvl 25. It was rediculous, i couldn't leave the city because someone else was farther in the woods, who had me macrod and then there's your sad little pk'ing clan kalypso with you watching the fun. But then later in the night, I actually cought up with Tadpole in the barracks when he was on a alt, and I haven't seen anyone else run as fast. Now, I knew who he was, paged him, and told him I wasn't going to pk him, low and behold he came back and we actually got to talking. It's funny how things like that go. I'm not saying 'You all need to get a bleeping blep blep life' or anything like that, but come on, you gotta have better things to do. And this isn't because I got killed either, I got killed yesterday and actually complimented the person on their crit, guess what, we got to talking :).

Maybe the problem is that the people who are lvl 30, don't do many productive things with thier crits.
Title: Re: Great idea to solve level 30 problem!
Post by newb on 03/14/03 at 20:06:09
Yeah, I don't think alot of people find good things to do with their crits. Maybe instead of spending all this time complaining about how lvl 30 sucks, they could find a different game or accept that lvl 30 is the end as far as it goes. Or you could always just train more crits. It doesn't make sense to me to have 400 mil+ on a crit and then complain about lvl 30. You could hav lvl'ed a crit to at least lvl 25 by the time you got all that extra xp.
Title: Re: Great idea to solve level 30 problem!
Post by wonderful_nightmare on 03/17/03 at 10:01:07
gah how about you just change the exp tables? so you need more exp to lvl :D

(like the old exp tables but then with the exp you can get now) getting arch then would be a hughe pain in the ass :D
Title: Re: Great idea to solve level 30 problem!
Post by Selene on 03/20/03 at 03:22:59
I think JLH should raise the lvls once I have all my crits Arch! ;D Sounds like a good idea to me.. :)
Title: Re: Great idea to solve level 30 problem!
Post by Blast on 04/04/03 at 13:59:33
sounds bad to me... i will never get to lvl 30
Title: Re: Great idea to solve level 30 problem!
Post by wonderful_nightmare on 04/04/03 at 17:40:11
well that's a good thing blast :D you won't get bored once you reach lvl 30 :D
Title: Re: Great idea to solve level 30 problem!
Post by Aidon on 04/04/03 at 18:06:03
Problem solved.
Title: Re: Great idea to solve level 30 problem!
Post by Blast on 04/05/03 at 15:22:52
LOL,  yeah
Title: Re: Great idea to solve level 30 problem!
Post by Tender_Foot on 04/05/03 at 16:38:46
or we could have a reset, that would make a lot of lvl 30's unbored
Title: Re: Great idea to solve level 30 problem!
Post by wonderful_nightmare on 04/05/03 at 17:30:25
that would make alot of lvl 30's quit too :D
Title: Re: Great idea to solve level 30 problem!
Post by dognapot on 04/06/03 at 01:46:23
for the millionth time: a reset would just reset all the current problems. besides, killing people is a flawless solution to "the level 30 problem." now go kill everyone guys!
Title: Re: Great idea to solve level 30 problem!
Post by ImmortalCriminal on 08/24/03 at 00:53:27
Seems lvl 30's are getting weaker now adays my lvl 24 dwarf thief clicked a Dwarf Archmaster Fighter in 1 round of 5 stam pretty pathetic i say, and i tihnk JLh should make lvl 30's be able to lvl aleast 3 more lvl's and get better armor for lvl 30 fighters cuz Spiked Set's suck againest a thief that can assasinate for 300dmg and more depending on the person he tries clicking and that was mages can get a little better hp .
Title: Re: Great idea to solve level 30 problem!
Post by Tanis on 08/24/03 at 02:11:32

on 08/24/03 at 00:53:27, ImmortalCriminal wrote:
Seems lvl 30's are getting weaker now adays my lvl 24 dwarf thief clicked a Dwarf Archmaster Fighter in 1 round of 5 stam pretty pathetic i say



??? As far as I know, you don't get 5 stam til 26?...
Title: Re: Great idea to solve level 30 problem!
Post by dec on 08/24/03 at 10:46:17
too much tlking not enuff killing
Title: Re: Great idea to solve level 30 problem!
Post by Rattlesnake on 08/24/03 at 23:24:39

on 08/24/03 at 02:11:32, Tanis wrote:
??? As far as I know, you don't get 5 stam til 26?...


That's what I thought too...
Title: Re: Great idea to solve level 30 problem!
Post by Epic on 08/25/03 at 01:03:40

on 03/17/03 at 10:01:07, wonderful_nightmare wrote:
gah how about you just change the exp tables? so you need more exp to lvl :D


worst idea yet
Title: Re: Great idea to solve level 30 problem!
Post by Deval on 08/26/03 at 00:19:42
Epic, your avatar is so d**n huggable.
Title: Re: Great idea to solve level 30 problem!
Post by Dark_Jester on 10/03/03 at 20:21:02
I wonder if there is a real problem with leveling past level 30.  

Can Pandilex or JLH field this?  Is there a problem to raise a character level too high?  Or is Level 30 set to face the challenges in game?

Would it be a good idea to increase the level if there are more harder monsters to kill?

I reemmber the old nightmist where someone brought Norinth to the front gates and along with a lot of monsters in a roleplaying attempt tot ake over night mist.  And the high and low levels running tot he front gates jumping on the monsters whether they died or not and it was just fun.  

But that was before the reset and before the changes and the additions of the pacifists, when zerkers were barbarians, when thieves were thieves and assassins.

Hmmm Multiclassing?  allow the level 30 to multiclass into another class but the xp gain continues from level 30 up?

From what I could see, 250 mil xp is level 30.  to make it higher level you could always multiply the xp so that the present almost omnipotents need to gain xp still.

how about say 250mil x 2, for level 31 (500mill xp)
500 mil x2 for level 32 (1000 mil)

of course this would take forever but then they are gaining a new class level.  A ranger with shock? and doing 5 stamina shocks?

Just a thought.
Title: Re: Great idea to solve level 30 problem!
Post by dognapot on 10/04/03 at 04:52:53
it's all been discussed before, but really, merciless slaughter is the best solution to our problems.
Title: Re: Great idea to solve level 30 problem!
Post by Deval on 10/16/03 at 00:21:21
Your spleen shall be a tribute to my blood god!
Title: Re: Great idea to solve level 30 problem!
Post by Snowy on 10/16/03 at 16:54:37
if u need challenges then try this i am currently doing :D
lvl a crit to 30 with no help of alts (EXTREME with a mage)
u gotta make cash for a new oak vest and so on :P
Title: Re: Great idea to solve level 30 problem!
Post by Stotic on 10/16/03 at 23:00:26
Many of us have accomplished that feat. :)
Title: Re: Great idea to solve level 30 problem!
Post by Snowy on 10/17/03 at 14:11:16
u had no alts untill u got to lvl 30? well.. no help of em to lvl 30??
Title: Re: Great idea to solve level 30 problem!
Post by Stotic on 10/17/03 at 17:16:28
Alts weren't a big thing when I trained.  
Title: Re: Great idea to solve level 30 problem!
Post by Jurian on 10/17/03 at 18:25:41

on 10/17/03 at 17:16:28, Stotic wrote:
Alts weren't a big thing when I trained.  


pre-reset it was weird to c someone train with 3 alts at the same time lol. i only used 2 at that time :D guess i've gotten 6 times as good at training lol :D
Title: Re: Great idea to solve level 30 problem!
Post by Galatae on 12/12/03 at 23:50:08
Post reset I trained a thief alone to arch. That was a lot of Orcs, Bears, snakes, and some scorpions in Jahanna.
Title: Re: Great idea to solve level 30 problem!
Post by Id on 01/10/04 at 01:17:30
ok I saw this in one of the mud games I play (or is that what people called it)...  after reaching the max level, the level can pay a sum of money to be reset back to lvl 1 with one of the 6 stat (str int dex con wis char --who know, maybe even the 7th stat, armor--) improved.

(Basically...+1 to random stat-so people can't just choose dex or con everytime).  Then again..this would push those 6 stat crit's price way up....and players would spend 90% game time on the roller (not that they're not already doing that).
Title: Re: Great idea to solve level 30 problem!
Post by Vagabond on 01/22/04 at 05:51:05
K i finally got a party of lvl 30's so BUMP
Title: Re: Great idea to solve level 30 problem!
Post by Raylen on 01/22/04 at 14:38:51

on 01/10/04 at 01:17:30, Id wrote:
ok I saw this in one of the mud games I play (or is that what people called it)...  after reaching the max level, the level can pay a sum of money to be reset back to lvl 1 with one of the 6 stat (str int dex con wis char --who know, maybe even the 7th stat, armor--) improved.

(Basically...+1 to random stat-so people can't just choose dex or con everytime).  Then again..this would push those 6 stat crit's price way up....and players would spend 90% game time on the roller (not that they're not already doing that).


Like it :)
Title: Re: Great idea to solve level 30 problem!
Post by Oracle on 01/22/04 at 22:24:25
It's been said before, search for it in the suggestions section if you are that keen, I can't remember the outcome.
Title: Re: Great idea to solve level 30 problem!
Post by Windwalker on 01/22/04 at 22:29:30
ok sorry to bring revelation into it AGAIN but why not do something like 30+ lvls

AA lvls (Archi Attack) ok sad name but im in a hurry here

Gets u special things like faster stam or + 20hp or somit like that to give them something other than pk to do
Title: Re: Great idea to solve level 30 problem!
Post by Id on 01/23/04 at 17:26:21
lvl 10k....BUT if you die..you die...and start over  :P =)~
1mil gold for an extra live  :o :o ;)
*lol...brought back some memory*
Title: Re: Great idea to solve level 30 problem!
Post by Tatsu on 01/24/04 at 17:19:05
i say we wait till this next update b4 we start discussing this again....its gunna be huge and JLH may have added things to help solve some of the problems  :D
Title: Re: Great idea to solve level 30 problem!
Post by YRA on 01/31/04 at 00:49:59

on 10/16/03 at 23:00:26, Stotic wrote:
Many of us have accomplished that feat. :)


Try doing that with the game in its CURRENT state... lower xp, no jahanna pub, half xp in arenas, pkers everywhere (say ur not allowed to tell anyone who your crit is so the pkers will be more 'friendly') ...
Title: Re: Great idea to solve level 30 problem!
Post by Deval on 02/03/04 at 05:14:19

Pacifist.

*insert whip sound here*
Title: Re: Great idea to solve level 30 problem!
Post by ElDiAbLo on 02/11/04 at 03:25:28
Lets bring back the 70's so we can smoke weed and make love and peace!
Title: Re: Great idea to solve level 30 problem!
Post by Silverwizard on 02/11/04 at 03:56:04
Dude those were the 60's. Yeesh. Good music out of those earas though.
Title: Re: Great idea to solve level 30 problem!
Post by Chewbob on 02/11/04 at 19:38:51

on 02/11/04 at 03:56:04, Silverwizard wrote:
Dude those were the 60's. Yeesh. Good music out of those earas though.

I bet there was good music out of those eras too.


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