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Title: why would you want to attack yourself? Post by dognapot on 03/12/03 at 00:19:31 instead of questioning my judgement could the game just let me hurt myself? maybe i want to drink a potion? or prove some stupid point. sometimes i wonder if i can round myself. |
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Title: Re: why would you want to attack yourself? Post by Currupted on 03/12/03 at 00:23:55 maybe they don't want a bunch of suicidal crits on there hands? but sometimes, I would like to commit suicide, or atleast hit myself becuz I mis-behaved |
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Title: Re: why would you want to attack yourself? Post by Tender_Foot on 03/12/03 at 02:22:52 i wouldnt mind killing myself when the game goes haywire and locks me in a certain square, or in a deleted area, glitch (all 3 have happened a couple times) |
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Title: Re: why would you want to attack yourself? Post by Lyandor on 03/12/03 at 15:55:58 If your having a massive fight then accidently rounding yourself because of all the moving pictures would get extremely annoying. You wouldn't accidently stab yourself with a sword would you? Unless you could turn the option off, it would be more annoying than fun. |
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Title: Re: why would you want to attack yourself? Post by dognapot on 03/12/03 at 20:37:12 to lyandor, /nopk clan, /nopk <your crit's name>, /nokill. i think you can even specifically put yourself on nopk for whatever good that is now. |
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Title: Re: why would you want to attack yourself? Post by Blast on 03/13/03 at 15:01:40 hmm i think it would be annoying but, i would really like to see some suicide potions, not for much, u can kill yourself so someone wont kill u and u dont loose so much exp as if u were pked |
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Title: Re: why would you want to attack yourself? Post by Rattlesnake on 03/13/03 at 15:21:48 I think it would be fun to be able to attack yourself in those certain situations where you just feel the need. But if it were put in it shouldn't count for pks but you should still lose as much exp as you would if you were to be pked. |
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Title: Re: why would you want to attack yourself? Post by Lyandor on 03/13/03 at 15:52:43 on 03/12/03 at 20:37:12, dognapot wrote:
How would /nopk clan, /nokill and /nopk <your crit's name> help you to stop it from happening? nopking a clan wouldn't stop you attacking yourself, /nokill is useless in a fight and you can't add yourself (You can't add yourself. is the message) |
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Title: Re: why would you want to attack yourself? Post by drizzt_dourden on 03/13/03 at 18:08:46 if added, that could be changed. |
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Title: Re: why would you want to attack yourself? Post by dognapot on 03/13/03 at 22:04:40 on 03/13/03 at 15:52:43, Lyandor wrote:
if your in a clan, nopk the clan, and then you cannot attack it's members (including you). although i'm sure it wouldn't be that much hassle for nopk to be changed to allow yourself on the list. but really now, are we all that careless that we would be in constant danger of murdering ourselves? |
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Title: Re: why would you want to attack yourself? Post by Tender_Foot on 03/14/03 at 05:47:41 on 03/13/03 at 15:01:40, Blast wrote:
You lose the same exp, no matter if your killed by a player, or a monster. And i wouldn't mind seeing a suicide potion. Could be used for roleplaying, or when your lost, but should be kinda expensive so you dont do it repeatedly (also, you would drop your stuff as normally) maybe like 1,000 gold. |
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Title: Re: why would you want to attack yourself? Post by wonderful_nightmare on 03/17/03 at 10:03:08 how about just aming a special command you write to attack yourself this way you can't attack yourself in a fight. like /cast rapid fire/[yourself] it only works if you type it out :D |
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Title: Re: why would you want to attack yourself? Post by Currupted on 03/17/03 at 10:07:49 I'd like /suicidal rage Username goes into a suicdal rage and ends his/her life in one swift movement of the wrists. Of course this isn't exactly a serious post, but it's a thought. |
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Title: Re: why would you want to attack yourself? Post by Tender_Foot on 03/18/03 at 01:12:00 why i put what i did, is because if someone could just type it out, you would start seeing people killing themselves repeatedly for no reason what-so-ever. |
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Title: Re: why would you want to attack yourself? Post by dognapot on 03/18/03 at 06:23:52 on 03/18/03 at 01:12:00, Tender_Foot wrote:
you mean there's reasons to kill yourself? |
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Title: Re: why would you want to attack yourself? Post by Currupted on 03/18/03 at 07:30:45 I think the fact you lose exp still would draw people back from doing it too often |
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Title: Re: why would you want to attack yourself? Post by Tender_Foot on 03/18/03 at 08:39:10 i dont know how much you play, but there's swarms of people who just try to lose exp, and tons of people who leave the square your in, and come back in hundreds of times just to annoy people, or macro a command or phrase, this would just be another way to annoy people if it was a command. i still think a buyable potion should suffice, due to the fact you wouldn't be using it much. |
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Title: Re: why would you want to attack yourself? Post by Currupted on 03/18/03 at 09:02:00 hmm, I play every-day and never see any of this, but this would probally be due to the fact, I don't tend to hang around other players much unless its in clan chat, but I could always put the suicidal rage in the emotes section for something to do, the potion idea is good though. |
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Title: Re: why would you want to attack yourself? Post by dognapot on 03/18/03 at 12:58:53 i just want to hit myself around. if people want to kill themselves they can, it's doesn't affect me and can only hurt them. |
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Title: Re: why would you want to attack yourself? Post by Tender_Foot on 03/19/03 at 02:46:30 well since you are one of the more annoying people in the game, i would see how it wouldnt annoy you |
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Title: Re: why would you want to attack yourself? Post by Currupted on 03/19/03 at 04:36:05 Yes, people should be able to have the option to hit themselves around a bit if they want to, but the people killing themselves could possibly be a slight problem, but what can we do about that? Make a severe consequence for killing yourself? |
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Title: Re: why would you want to attack yourself? Post by dognapot on 03/19/03 at 06:36:12 people killing themselves is hardly a problem. 1. it only determentally affects the person killing themself. 2. they could only kill themselves in pkable zones. no player kiling means no player killing even if it is yourself. 3. since you can only kill yourself in pkable squares; in order to kill yourself you will have to compete with people who want to kill you. 4. you couldn't kill yourself at lvls lower than 5. pking is pking alright? 5. nopk commands will affect you. as a member of X clan, typing /nopk clan protects you along with, /nopk party, /nopk <name>, and /nokill. 6. it would stand to reason that in order to kill yourself in a timely fashion (fast enough to stop someone else from killing you or be killed by monsters) you must be skilled and decently equipped. ergo, in order to kill yourself (exclusively) over and over you must be of a high enough a level to do the above and it would be only to your disadvantage to behave in such a manner. these factors would make any nuisance merely personal and negligable to the population of NM as a whole. i don't know what situations you guys were imagining but they cannot be so imprisoning the listed factors could not assuage the nuisance of seeing someone die or allow you to ignore it in some fashion. |
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Title: Re: why would you want to attack yourself? Post by Tender_Foot on 03/19/03 at 08:36:58 i dont think that there is much of a reason to 'commit suicide' if someone is attacking you or a monster is going to kill you. i feel that if you commit suicide you should lose more exp then you would if you were to get pk'ed |
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Title: Re: why would you want to attack yourself? Post by dognapot on 03/19/03 at 09:57:55 jebus man, it's not a particularly depthy subject. it's being able to hit yourself; it's no different than being able to hit other players. you don't need cyanide pills, spontaneous combustion commands, or suicide spells all that this thread was supposed to be about was being able to hit yourself when it is appropriate. to be completely honest here's what i was planning on doing with this idea... You don't have enough space for a 'rose' in your inventory. Dognapot: nuts to that! Dognapot attacks Dognapot with her 'dagger of spirits' for 39 points of damage. You drink an Advanced Healing Potion. You picked up a 'rose'. and for you russian roulette or 'deer hunter' fans... Dognapot: Diddy mao! Diddy mao! Luna: ok ok Luna attempted to assassinate herself but failed. Luna: your turn! Dognapot attempted to assassinate herself but failed. Dognapot: ha.ha.ha. now diddy mao! something this simple really shouldn't warrant that much explaining. |
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Title: Re: why would you want to attack yourself? Post by Tender_Foot on 03/20/03 at 07:59:43 i dont know about you, but i think it would be preety hard to attack yourself with a sword |
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Title: Re: why would you want to attack yourself? Post by drizzt_dourden on 03/20/03 at 13:53:20 its not all that hard when you first start practicing actually...... i can recall many wounds i sustained because of foolish mistakes while training. |
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Title: Re: why would you want to attack yourself? Post by Tender_Foot on 03/20/03 at 14:20:44 yeah, but i wouldnt call them life threatening wounds, and since nm treats all wounds the same, i just cant see someone with a sword killing themselves |
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Title: Re: why would you want to attack yourself? Post by Pile on 03/20/03 at 15:46:34 Why the hell would it be hard to kill yourself with a sword? Since it would be pretty reasonable to assume you wouldn’t be defending yourself I can think of numerous inventive ways to die by your own sword, all as technically feasible as slitting ones wrists with a dagger of spirits. |
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Title: Re: why would you want to attack yourself? Post by Rattlesnake on 03/20/03 at 15:47:20 I think people with low dexterity should occassionally fall on their weapon killing themself. Imagine the clumbsiest person you know donned in armor and handed a really sharp sword.. they go skipping along like the fool they are trip over a log and boom, stabbed through the chest. |
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Title: Re: why would you want to attack yourself? Post by Valentine on 03/20/03 at 16:02:22 I'm wondering how dex would factor into this...would a high dex mean that you have good aim, and therefore hit yourself? Or would a high dex give you the ability to dodge the blow? Heehee...the image in my head is pretty funny... I'm all for a /suicide command... |
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Title: Re: why would you want to attack yourself? Post by Tender_Foot on 03/21/03 at 03:00:45 on 03/20/03 at 15:46:34, Pile wrote:
what i said was swords, not daggers. also slitting wrists rarely ever kills a person. now a good down the arm slit, and your working with something |
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Title: Re: why would you want to attack yourself? Post by dognapot on 03/21/03 at 03:20:24 can i please just hurt myself? all i want to do is clear the potions out of my inventory and play russian roulette in a smokey backroom of the clan house. |
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Title: Re: why would you want to attack yourself? Post by Pile on 03/21/03 at 03:49:06 I was saying that hurting yourself with a sword is just as easy as with a dagger, hence the dagger reference. Since self-inflicted injury is normally associated with small sharp instruments, the dagger sprang to mind as a good example… Yeah sorry, off topic again but that tender person just seems to inspire me to argue over complete and utter nonsense. You know I used to think that some of the more aggressive posters' continual putdowns and arguments used to grate a little bit. However, it seems to me that the forums have been somewhat quieter for a while now and it has taken this for me to realise their fundamental purpose of keeping the goons in check from running rampant. Where has Poptart gone? You don’t miss things to until they aren’t around anymore, and from my new enlightened perspective I feel we need some aggressive and antisocial behaviour, and a smidgen of personal attacks, just to balance things out a little. |
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Title: Re: why would you want to attack yourself? Post by dognapot on 03/21/03 at 04:16:27 yeah, there aren't as many bs-detectors as there used to be. |
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Title: Re: why would you want to attack yourself? Post by Deval on 03/24/03 at 04:45:17 Can we personalise our own suicides? Deval glues the handle end of a screwdriver to a piece of board so it points upwards, then gets on his hands and knees and crawls over the board. Deval then proceeds to slam his head repeatedly down on the screw driver, gouging his eye socket till there is nothing left but a mashy bloody hole, accented with a dash of stylish fragmented bone, backed by a lovely conglomeration of blood, puss, tattered skin, and the occasional glimpse of grey matter. Surprisingly, Deval has not yet passed away, and thus stands up in frustration. He then takes a nail file and begins to jam it randomly in his mouth, shredding lip, gum, tooth and eppiglotis until he eventually punctures his spine, thus severing his spinal cord. With one laster whimper of agonising satisfaction, Deval slumps to the ground in a pile of blood accented by the occasional highlight of bone. |
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Title: Re: why would you want to attack yourself? Post by Rattlesnake on 03/24/03 at 05:41:45 on 03/24/03 at 04:45:17, Deval wrote:
:o :o :o * pukes :-/ |
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Title: Re: why would you want to attack yourself? Post by wonderful_nightmare on 03/24/03 at 09:49:53 LOL @ DEVAL i'll just borrow captain wylsens gun :D Before you land the mortal blow, Jurian raises his Silver Pistol to his left temple and fires the gun, spraying his cranial matter across the bookcase and northern wall. |
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Title: Re: why would you want to attack yourself? Post by Melfice on 04/20/03 at 19:15:35 Y don't you just drop a potion? ::) neway i do like the idea of a suicide command, and i definatly enjoyed reading the russian roulette thing lol. :D |
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Title: Re: why would you want to attack yourself? Post by Hatchet Warrior on 04/21/03 at 09:33:50 whoo....well...ok, here's my thought on this one. I can see why a suicide command isn't in the game. One, you'd never get PK'd, cause if you were about to get dropped, you'd just kill yourself to save you the pain of being killed by someone else. Then we have realism, which a suicide command would be good if you look at it this way. It would make play more realistic if you were able to kill yourself, suicide missions (If your captured, kill yourself) do happen, especially in terrorism groups, or as I like to call them, Astral Warriors (lol). All in all, I think it would be good, but if it was added, would probally be taken out soon due to overuse, and miss-use of the command. |
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Title: Re: why would you want to attack yourself? Post by Tender_Foot on 04/21/03 at 14:06:34 thats why i said you would need to buy potions to do it. blah blah blah just drank a Vile of Poison. blah blah blah was ressurected here after commiting suicide. they would cost 1k-5k each not much, but would keep people from over abusing them |
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Title: Re: why would you want to attack yourself? Post by dognapot on 04/21/03 at 20:12:43 that would be a great idea if this thread was about potions, but all i want with this is to be able to attack myself. i don't know how else to explain this except with a puppet presentation, but really, it's just attacking yourself, it's a little more personal freedom for your characters, it's not abusable, it has nothing to do with potions, it's seriously only hitting yourself. jebus. |
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Title: Re: why would you want to attack yourself? Post by Melfice on 04/23/03 at 19:32:58 on 04/21/03 at 09:33:50, Hatchet Warrior wrote:
but if your really that low you can already do this. Just log off the game b4 you get pked. |
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Title: Re: why would you want to attack yourself? Post by wonderful_nightmare on 04/23/03 at 20:25:42 on 04/23/03 at 19:32:58, Melfice wrote:
trust me dude logging will only make ppl hate you really really really much :D ::) ::) while suiciding is just funny :D |
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Title: Re: why would you want to attack yourself? Post by Norinth on 05/05/03 at 17:59:07 The potion idea is the best. |
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Title: Re: why would you want to attack yourself? Post by Blast on 05/06/03 at 08:11:23 ye, but u should lose some exp |
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Title: Re: why would you want to attack yourself? Post by dognapot on 05/06/03 at 17:37:42 duh |
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Title: Re: why would you want to attack yourself? Post by Deval on 05/07/03 at 05:15:04 on 03/21/03 at 03:00:45, Tender_Foot wrote:
Do you mean forearm slit? Your cutting the same viens, but instead of cutting across the vein, creating a waterfall effect, by cutting up the vein, they turn flat/invert, meaning they are a hell of a lot harder to stich up. Of course, my screwdriver message is always the most effective technique. |
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Title: Re: why would you want to attack yourself? Post by Pile on 05/07/03 at 15:33:38 Think he means that the normal wrist action only touches the veins and you need a fair bit of time on your hands to bleed to death. Heading up north a little gives you more chance of liberating an artery and hits the fast-forward. At least that’s the way I always understood it, but you can count me out for trials. |
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Title: Re: why would you want to attack yourself? Post by Epic on 05/09/03 at 23:32:12 .... |
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Title: Re: why would you want to attack yourself? Post by Astrona on 05/10/03 at 17:14:18 on 05/09/03 at 23:32:12, Epic wrote:
The point of that post was what exactly? |
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Title: Re: why would you want to attack yourself? Post by Gwerradon on 05/10/03 at 21:28:11 on 03/12/03 at 00:19:31, dognapot wrote:
do it IRL instead |
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Title: Re: why would you want to attack yourself? Post by Gwerradon on 05/10/03 at 21:28:52 on 05/10/03 at 17:14:18, Astrona wrote:
some people think their post counts will let them live longer, or get them friends....ive just done 2 posts in less than a minute, but either way it doesnt matter. instead of replying to the person who puts a useless post, ignore it. |
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Title: Re: why would you want to attack yourself? Post by Silverwizard on 02/20/04 at 01:14:17 I would like to be able to attack myself simply for fun. Also so I can end a duel faster. |
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Title: Re: why would you want to attack yourself? Post by Stotic on 02/20/04 at 02:29:09 « Reply #51 on: May 10th, 2003, 4:28pm » :o |
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Title: Re: why would you want to attack yourself? Post by Rappy_Ninja on 02/20/04 at 17:44:02 :P |
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Title: Re: why would you want to attack yourself? Post by Celerity on 02/20/04 at 21:57:11 Feel free to repeatedly smash your fingers with a hammer until you can no longer type ...please. |
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Title: Re: why would you want to attack yourself? Post by The Mecrenary on 02/20/04 at 23:16:33 Well, hitting yourself around would be quite fun.. I like this idea, and if you must, for RPing purposes have a /suicide command, you should be able to do it in towns, but with twice the dieing penalty. It should have the following layout, or something similar. /suicide [message]. For example: /suicide whacks himself too many times with his rubber knife. Would do: Mecrenary whacks himself too many times with his rubber knife, killing him. Perhaps some special color. You could do the same thing using a rubber knife and attacking yourself, but it might take a while. Imagine people protesting some clan movement. Mecrenary stabs himself with his Justice Blade saying "I demand justice!", killing him. Conquerer shakes his Halberd in anger, and cuts off his head, killing him. Mecrenarys_archer Shoots himself in the head saying, "DOGGONE YOU EVIL PEOPLE", killing him. This is my view. |
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Title: Re: why would you want to attack yourself? Post by Silverwizard on 02/21/04 at 01:44:32 on 02/20/04 at 02:29:09, Stotic wrote:
This post was refered to in another and was ended while I was quit, I bumped it that is all. |
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Title: Re: why would you want to attack yourself? Post by Deval on 02/25/04 at 23:13:10 Heh, you can blame me for that. ;) |
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Title: Re: why would you want to attack yourself? Post by Stotic on 02/26/04 at 00:20:30 bastage! |
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Title: Re: why would you want to attack yourself? Post by Deval on 02/27/04 at 00:08:20 Wow, I haven't/haven't seen that word used for ages. |
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