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(Message started by: Guillaume777 on 05/03/03 at 23:18:47)

Title: Best race for Cleric ?
Post by Guillaume777 on 05/03/03 at 23:18:47
What do you think is the best race for Cleric ? Personally I heard that Dwarf are the best class for Cleric due to high Con, it does seem a bit weird no ?

Title: Re: Best race for Cleric ?
Post by newb on 05/03/03 at 23:23:03
Its more a matter of personal preference. I personally favor Dwarf Clerics. They get really good hp and good mp despite their 18 wisdom. And you can't argue with a cleric with 21 strength unenhanced ;)

Title: Re: Best race for Cleric ?
Post by Guillaume777 on 05/03/03 at 23:51:53
Are you sure ? Because I heard that with 18 wis they fizzle alot with their spells. Is it true ?

Title: Re: Best race for Cleric ?
Post by Phaytality on 05/17/03 at 06:16:09
Elf Cleric's are common.  With their 20 wis they make a fine cleric.  And to answer your question Guillaume777, no, wisdom does NOT effect how much a spell fizzles.  Wisdom determines how much mana you get.  Intelligence determines how much damage you do.

Title: Re: Best race for Cleric ?
Post by Insomnia on 05/17/03 at 17:13:53
Humans are my favorites. They get really good HP and they don't get hit as much as dwarves. Second plave is a tie between dwarves, elves and gnomes. ;)

Title: Re: Best race for Cleric ?
Post by Julius on 05/22/03 at 00:14:13
However, Elves share a common dexterity as humans, though there strenght and constitution are 1 off in each, they have a 1 higher point in wisdom for more mana to heal your less hp, BUT the big kicker for the elves is their 21 charisma to affect your healing potential. No one else can match that charisma.

Title: Re: Best race for Cleric ?
Post by Fangir on 05/23/03 at 00:22:03
What specificly does char do for a healer?  Does anyone know?

Title: Re: Best race for Cleric ?
Post by Mammon on 05/25/03 at 20:12:22
Cha I believe affect healing slightly, but only slightly I haven't noticed a real large difference between clerics with different charismas nor with who they cast it on, so I can't tell you for sure.

My favorite race would probably be human also, with dwarf being the next highest and elves coming in third, I don't care too much for gnome clerics.

Title: Re: Best race for Cleric ?
Post by Oblivion on 05/26/03 at 05:01:34
I say Dwarves and elf 2nd.

Title: Re: Best race for Cleric ?
Post by the Kiheitai on 06/01/03 at 23:46:03
Charisma only slightly effects the healing, between a few points, depending on who you cast it on's charisma and what the caster's charisma is. my level 23 cleric heals for almost the same with aid than my 28 does since he has a lower cahrisma.

Title: Re: Best race for Cleric ?
Post by Eiements on 09/21/03 at 06:33:34
halfling clerics own all

Title: Re: Best race for Cleric ?
Post by Artemis_Entreri on 09/22/03 at 23:04:35
I'm personally considering rolling a cleric as well. What about half elves? It would seem elves have the CHA and WIS going for them, and humans seem to be the common fave, wouldnt that make half elves superior?

Title: Re: Best race for Cleric ?
Post by Aidon on 09/23/03 at 02:07:56
max stats for full elves: 18 21 19 18 20 21   Has highest wis and char pair of all races.

Title: Re: Best race for Cleric ?
Post by Deval on 09/23/03 at 05:04:21

on 09/21/03 at 06:33:34, Eiements wrote:
halfling clerics own all


Halflings blow, what is it that makes them so good? Their lower strength than humans and dwarves? Their lower con than humans and dwarves? Their lower wisdom than humans and elves? Only benefit is the dex, and whats that matter, the extra 2 or so times you get hit is easily compensated by the healing power. Halfling clerics are a waste of time.

I want a half-orc cleric :P

Title: Re: Best race for Cleric ?
Post by Bean on 09/23/03 at 05:25:23
Human clerics are the most.... Realiable In my opinion... But thats just me  ;D

Title: Re: Best race for Cleric ?
Post by alone on 09/23/03 at 13:17:44
What do you want the cleric for, i think is the best way around this..

Fighting: Dwarves.
Healing: Elves.
Overall: Human?

That's how id work out what to roll.

Title: Re: Best race for Cleric ?
Post by Drac on 09/25/03 at 22:44:49
my master elf cleric with 18 x 19 18 20 12 heal about 5 points more than my master halfling cleric with 16 x 21 18 18 19.. someone please explain that.

Title: Re: Best race for Cleric ?
Post by Drac on 09/25/03 at 22:48:30
nvm.. after reading about jen's cleric it all makes sense now.. wisdom has a large effect on healing power..

Title: Re: Best race for Cleric ?
Post by Aidon on 09/25/03 at 22:49:05
b/c it has higher wisdom, wisdom effects healing more so than char.

Title: Re: Best race for Cleric ?
Post by Ice_Cold on 09/26/03 at 20:18:36
halfling clerics are fuuun, soecially when they have 24 dex

Title: Re: Best race for Cleric ?
Post by -Gaddy- on 09/28/03 at 03:04:46
I like Gaddy, my dwarf cleric.
I'd think elves would be best for bosses w/ pacis w/ JZ, since they can get more mana and spell up more crits at one time.
Dwarves for bossing and training when you need to survive.

Dwarf in mosh, no one can kill you til your out of mana or you make a mistake.  (i make too many mistakes  :-/ )

I'd say overall dwarves, just because of highest hp.  Really halfling and elves would be my 2nd pick, elves first due to higher char and wis making them eassier to TRAIN the CLERIC to arch.  Humans....i dont see anything that would make me perfer them over anything else...gnomes are alright i guess...but i wouldnt choose one if i had my pick.

O, Elves also because they'll do more damage on healing bosses like SK and DG.  They can also cast AR and RF on larger parties.

Fighting in a mosh, dwarves.   Fighting a boss, elves (most have pacis protecting them, or woudlnt be picked as first to die), elves could spell up more stuff at once.   Fighting in duels dwarf since they can survive.  Halflings are good due to extra armor and being able to get 24 dex w/o mods...but my dwarf is almost never w/o 23 dex on...i cast holy might any time i am anywhere other than when i train for long periods of time in a place i cant leave and get back to quickly (where you dont get jumpped)

Title: Re: Best race for Cleric ?
Post by Eiements on 11/20/03 at 07:26:25
halfling clerics so own
with spells and decked out they get 140ac
and 26 dex
also around the same hp as human and like 5-10 lower then elf
i think by far they are the best pking clerics but if u like to heal and run from pkers get elf or a human their fun

Title: Re: Best race for Cleric ?
Post by Matt on 11/24/03 at 02:09:25

on 05/17/03 at 06:16:09, Phaytality wrote:
Elf Cleric's are common.  With their 20 wis they make a fine cleric.  And to answer your question Guillaume777, no, wisdom does NOT effect how much a spell fizzles.  Wisdom determines how much mana you get.  Intelligence determines how much damage you do.


Sorry for bringing up an old post. But you're a tad wrong there. The fizzle of any spell caster is based on its wisdom and level, except for mages, in that case it's int.

Title: Re: Best race for Cleric ?
Post by Rafie_Khan on 11/28/03 at 18:00:14
I was told humans are pointless but yet I cannot see how? they have 19 all around with may be either 2 less or 1 more than other classes. so i need some advice weather humans are worth training.

Title: Re: Best race for Cleric ?
Post by Eternyte on 11/28/03 at 19:47:07
Humans are underestimated. It is very worth training one.

Title: Re: Best race for Cleric ?
Post by ? on 12/21/03 at 11:10:18
id say elfs are cool

I got an elf 17 21 19 18 20 21

with nice hp / 249 at lvl 25 285 mp known as Trap

Title: Re: Best race for Cleric ?
Post by Mephistroth on 12/21/03 at 12:30:11
yay? I'd say the best race is dwarf. They just seem to be much cooler than elves.

Title: Re: Best race for Cleric ?
Post by Issy on 12/21/03 at 15:16:06
Halfling and Dwarves!

Title: Re: Best race for Cleric ?
Post by Xcelon on 02/13/04 at 21:29:37
half-orc has my vote  ;D



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