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(Message started by: Epic on 11/07/03 at 09:29:39)
Title: New item..
Post by Epic on 11/07/03 at 09:29:39
Well zerkers cant use any armor so i suggest giving them some sorta shoulder spike pad..it would like harness around the upper body and be on one shoulder. It could give a lil armor and when you smite(maybe berserk too)it makes you hit for a lil harder(like DoS and ED for thieves)would be on a boss and have low drop rate...quick rough idea
Title: Re: New item..
Post by Banned on 11/07/03 at 15:43:33
They cant have armor period, even 1 armor would already block attacks....
Title: Re: New item..
Post by Epic on 11/07/03 at 20:12:00
I dont know who you are but you are very negitive and dont give any follow up information/ideas...dont talk
Title: Re: New item..
Post by Angelic on 11/07/03 at 21:44:16
I don't see why something on their shoulders would block their attack at all, or why they shouldn't wear it, so I'm all for this idea.  What did you have in mind for base armor or whatever else?
Title: Re: New item..
Post by Omniscient on 11/07/03 at 21:51:54
The point is if you give it any base armor at all, the way the game is designed it will be capable of blocking hits.
Title: Re: New item..
Post by Epic on 11/07/03 at 21:53:29
Well it would have a small ammt of armor cause it would just be on one shoulder(or both i dno)it would have bid spikes running upwards out of the shoulder pad so for example say when they berserk or/and smite it would be like they could be using their spike shoulder pad also to put a lil extra into the hit(like raming their spikes into whoever they are attacking)..didnt come up wit base damage or anything because no point yet unless it would be accepted
Title: Re: New item..
Post by Deadly Criminals on 11/21/03 at 01:11:46
I Actually Think this might be the best thing it would atleast give them some clothes and it wouldnt have to have Base armor it could have base damage instead maybe like 8 extra base damage on it but it would planly look like it's wearing armor but it aint armor it would be a Attack mod just able increase the amount of damage you do. i Found Chris' Idea Quiet simple look at paci's they can wear armor but they can't be attacked/Killed by players it seems theres something weird about that but seeing a zerker have atleast nice extra amont of increased damage from smite/beserk. So Rock on Chris nice Suggestion.
Title: Re: New item..
Post by Epic on 11/21/03 at 06:48:45
:-* , thx
Title: Re: New item..
Post by Banned on 11/21/03 at 10:49:58

on 11/07/03 at 20:12:00, Epic wrote:
I dont know who you are but you are very negitive and dont give any follow up information/ideas...dont talk


Even if they would just have 1 point of armor it could already block an entire attack....thus being the reason they cant have armor...
Title: Re: New item..
Post by Jurian on 11/21/03 at 15:00:00
no offence here but they aren't even allowed to wear clothes or a freaking leave before there private parts so why should they get something to put on their shoulder.

if i ahd a choice to between pants or running around naked with something on my shoulder i would go for pants :D
Title: Re: New item..
Post by Mephistroth on 11/21/03 at 15:50:33
I'd go for something on your shoulder. Sounds to me like a good idea, mainly because the arguments against it are pathetic. Even crazy people who go berserk would still wear stuff.
Title: Re: New item..
Post by Omniscient on 11/21/03 at 15:55:32
The point is, if you've every fought anything on any class with armor, you've probably seen messages similar to these.

Person/MonsterName tried to attack you with WeaponName, but your armor absorbed the blow.

Person/MonsterName attacked you with WeaponName, but your armor absorbed some/half/most of the blow for DamageAmount.

Berserkers, the way they are designed, should NEVER see the above messages. However, you give them even 1 armor, and they will. I could understand letting them wear clothing and such that doesn't add AC, but they should not get anything with an actual armor rating.
Title: Re: New item..
Post by Banned on 11/21/03 at 16:08:45

on 11/21/03 at 15:55:32, Omniscient wrote:
The point is, if you've every fought anything on any class with armor, you've probably seen messages similar to these.

Person/MonsterName tried to attack you with WeaponName, but your armor absorbed the blow.

Person/MonsterName attacked you with WeaponName, but your armor absorbed some/half/most of the blow for DamageAmount.

Berserkers, the way they are designed, should NEVER see the above messages. However, you give them even 1 armor, and they will. I could understand letting them wear clothing and such that doesn't add AC, but they should not get anything with an actual armor rating.


Exactly


And Meph what you whining about that the arguments against it are pathetic, ask JLH and he will say the same you stuck up noob.
Title: Re: New item..
Post by Mephistroth on 11/21/03 at 16:12:15

on 11/21/03 at 16:08:45, Banned wrote:
And Meph what you whining about that the arguments against it are pathetic, ask JLH and he will say the same you stuck up noob.


Omg, piss off you immature freak. What is your problem with people not agreeing with you? Your an idiot. You are never right, but what does that matter? You just look for any excuse to whine. I'm not a 'noob' and i'm not stuck up. If anyone here is its you.

I don't agree with the item giving armor, but letting it increase damage slightly seems like a good idea to me. It's something new, and its realistic.
Title: Re: New item..
Post by Banned on 11/21/03 at 16:16:48

on 11/21/03 at 16:12:15, Mephistroth wrote:
Omg, piss off you immature freak. What is your problem with people not agreeing with you? Your an idiot. You are never right, but what does that matter? You just look for any excuse to whine. I'm not a 'noob' and i'm not stuck up. If anyone here is its you.


I should piss off? Im not the one here who is supposed to be perm banned...  
Title: Re: New item..
Post by Mephistroth on 11/21/03 at 18:47:13
Does it look like im banned? Yes, JLH did ban me, but then suddenly it worked again so I guess it isn't actually a perm ban. If JLH found that I deserved banning again he already would have done so, after all, i've used the same name for the past week.
Title: Re: New item..
Post by Banned on 11/21/03 at 19:20:58

on 11/21/03 at 18:47:13, Mephistroth wrote:
Does it look like im banned? Yes, JLH did ban me, but then suddenly it worked again so I guess it isn't actually a perm ban. If JLH found that I deserved banning again he already would have done so, after all, i've used the same name for the past week.


JLH doesnt know all that goes around, he didnt even know what an apprentice was when i talked to him about a bug...so better shush about it now or he will...
Title: Re: New item..
Post by Epic on 11/21/03 at 23:29:14
Dude its a new drop for berserkers...ok no armor sure but maybe it will give a lil more dmg to hits or a lil more dmg just on monsters/bosses(since zerkers are to powerful as it is being able to round any crits with 3 stam)..its just something to add to the zerkers since they dont have anything
Title: Re: New item..
Post by Mephistroth on 11/22/03 at 11:44:31

on 11/21/03 at 19:20:58, Banned wrote:
JLH doesnt know all that goes around, he didnt even know what an apprentice was when i talked to him about a bug...so better shush about it now or he will...


Oh, shut up.

Now that you mention it, i'm not sure if zerkers do need the extra damage. Maybe it would only work on monsters and not players? Or it could only increase damage when you use smite. That would improve smite (which it needs), and make sure that the extra damage doesnt make them too powerful.
Title: Re: New item..
Post by Rucker on 11/27/03 at 01:15:18
Im sick of hearing idiots argue..anyway directing this post back on topic, Epic this is an awesome idea...hopefully it works out
Title: Re: New item..
Post by Banned on 11/27/03 at 08:28:17

on 11/27/03 at 01:15:18, Rucker wrote:
Im sick of hearing idiots argue..anyway directing this post back on topic, Epic this is an awesome idea...hopefully it works out


Argue, you ppl just don't get that a zerker can't have armor period. I wouldn't mind the item as long as it doesnt give armor, which pandi wouldnt allow it to have anyways.
Title: Re: New item..
Post by Epic on 11/27/03 at 10:23:43
Why exactly can it not have any armor wut so ever?
Title: Re: New item..
Post by Mephistroth on 11/27/03 at 10:30:38

on 11/27/03 at 08:28:17, Banned wrote:
Argue, you ppl just don't get that a zerker can't have armor period. I wouldn't mind the item as long as it doesnt give armor, which pandi wouldnt allow it to have anyways.


We've already covered that lol. I don't even think they need the increase in damage actually, zerkers are already over powered.
Title: Re: New item..
Post by -HaLLuCiNaGeN- on 11/28/03 at 07:47:27

on 11/21/03 at 23:29:14, Epic wrote:
Dude its a new drop for berserkers...ok no armor sure but maybe it will give a lil more dmg to hits or a lil more dmg just on monsters/bosses(since zerkers are to powerful as it is being able to round any crits with 3 stam)..its just something to add to the zerkers since they dont have anything




Let me put that in language for you people who are more simple-minded. He's fine with no armor, but he's asking about the hitting damage, whether not that sounds like a fair idea. Get it out of your thick skulls that all he's talking about is armor.
I personally think so. It'd give them a new look.
Title: Re: New item..
Post by Mephistroth on 11/28/03 at 11:04:34

on 11/28/03 at 07:47:27, -HaLLuCiNaGeN- wrote:
Let me put that in language for you people who are more simple-minded. He's fine with no armor, but he's asking about the hitting damage, whether not that sounds like a fair idea. Get it out of your thick skulls that all he's talking about is armor.
I personally think so. It'd give them a new look.


Are you retarded? I KNOW hes talking about damage aswell as armor, I just don't think that increasing zerkers damage is a good idea. They already hit too hard.
Title: Re: New item..
Post by Epic on 11/28/03 at 14:21:20
Yeh they are way to over-powerful i think but, they are just so boring and it would add another thing for the game
Title: Re: New item..
Post by Mephistroth on 11/28/03 at 16:46:45
I agree with that. They need some sort of new item, but I just don't really know what. Maybe the extra damage would be ok as a very rare drop, and only after zerkers have been modified slightly.
Title: Re: New item..
Post by -HaLLuCiNaGeN- on 11/28/03 at 22:29:58

on 11/28/03 at 11:04:34, Mephistroth wrote:
Are you retarded? I KNOW hes talking about damage aswell as armor, I just don't think that increasing zerkers damage is a good idea. They already hit too hard.



Who said I'm talking about you in the first place? I was referring to anyone who doesn't understand what he was saying.
Title: Re: New item..
Post by Aladdin on 12/28/03 at 22:46:46
Yo this isnt Jery springer. Take your problems to someone who cares. (talking to meph and the banned person) and it would be a great idea, But it might give more anti- zerker people something else to argue about.


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