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(Message started by: -Gaddy- on 05/26/03 at 11:01:01)

Title: Zerkers best nOOb crit?
Post by -Gaddy- on 05/26/03 at 11:01:01
I mean, they have got to be, easy enough to lvl (without mass quantities of gold, thieves), high hp, you dont have to buy any armor for them or anything like that all other classes have max equip costs of 1 mill+ with aoh, sgs and stuff zerkers have 125k with hally, 10 mill with csotw i suppose.
I think zerkers were a great addition simply because any new player will have a crit type that they will not have to worry so much about armor and stuff like that.

note-zerkers are pwnage crits at high lvls and are NOT just for new players, i know that all the good players kick the crap out of others with their high lvl zerkers, was simply saying that new players can take advantage of them much easier than any other class i can think of.

Title: Re: Zerkers best nOOb crit?
Post by Alicia on 05/26/03 at 12:18:02
they arnt that cheap to train if you dont have a high level cleric.. zerkers munch through hit points like mages eat mana, remember they always get hit for full damage and drop 25hp each time they attack.

an example... when training in desert i need to heal my zerker about five times for ever time i heal ONE of my other crits.

if just using pots it comes out quite expensive....

Title: Re: Zerkers best nOOb crit?
Post by Bill on 05/28/03 at 10:32:39
I agree with Alicia, and i think fighters are much better "nOOb" crits.

Title: Re: Zerkers best nOOb crit?
Post by Reactor on 05/28/03 at 10:41:24
their equipment is cheaper and they cant use mods so u dont have to worry about that...

Title: Re: Zerkers best nOOb crit?
Post by alone on 05/28/03 at 17:45:28

on 05/26/03 at 11:01:01, -Gaddy- wrote:
have 125k with hally,


I'll never forget buying my first hally.. 60k it cost me..

Title: Re: Zerkers best nOOb crit?
Post by Alicia on 05/28/03 at 22:03:09

on 05/28/03 at 10:41:24, Reactor wrote:
their equipment is cheaper and they cant use mods so u dont have to worry about that...


Anyone who has a crit high enough level and has the gold to buy mods is hardly a 'noob'


Edit - My first hallie cost 75k a dagger of spirits and a pike. I had about 8 DoS's at that point (miss buy) and was trying to get rid of them (my top thief was l20), as for the pike i was trying to get rid of it, thats about 81k in gold and stuff

Title: Re: Zerkers best nOOb crit?
Post by Mordakai on 05/28/03 at 22:38:48
I didn't pay for my first hally, I found it on the floor of Nightmist weapon shop ;D (This was back right near reset, where nobody was level 20 yet) I then sold it to my friend, then bought it back for a name (I had a level one crit with a name he wanted lol)

Title: Re: Zerkers best nOOb crit?
Post by Predator on 05/29/03 at 00:03:04
I was given mine.

Title: Re: Zerkers best nOOb crit?
Post by Bean on 05/29/03 at 03:23:09
I helped kill the demonic general like the 4th time with one of my older chars

Title: Re: Zerkers best nOOb crit?
Post by Nocturnal on 05/29/03 at 23:08:40
I killed Rats for 8 Days to buy My First Hally for 95k.

I was tired, I stank of Excrement, but I could finally Kill another Player.  :)

Those were the days back in the Cyric Cult Clan. (Didn't have Rich pesterin' me for Donations every 10 seconds only to find he shut down the clan and made a new one with a stupid name!)  ;D

Title: Re: Zerkers best nOOb crit?
Post by ? on 06/05/03 at 07:07:54

on 05/28/03 at 17:45:28, alone wrote:
I'll never forget buying my first hally.. 60k it cost me..


40k for mine  :P

Title: Re: Zerkers best nOOb crit?
Post by InsaneNinjaPhreak on 06/05/03 at 07:22:00
ahh my first hally was 80k second 50k...mmm I miss havin' rather cheap hally's...and fighters do make better "n00b" crits..I have atleast 7 of'em

Title: Re: Zerkers best nOOb crit?
Post by Dys on 07/28/03 at 06:28:05
lol i payed 20k for my first hally... and i dont agree with zerks being the best "noob" crit...

Title: Re: Zerkers best nOOb crit?
Post by Game Over - SykoNinjaPhreak on 07/28/03 at 06:32:42
I think now it'd be a pacifist being the best "n00b" crit

Title: Re: Zerkers best nOOb crit?
Post by Alicia on 07/31/03 at 00:15:59
no way... imagine saving up to buy salve by soothing a skelly at 4hp/round for ten mins only to see a passing adept hit it once and take the kill (and the gold)

If someone would try arching a crit with NO assistance from their other crits/friends crits (including giving gold/items, healing, spelling up, partying with the crit to carry mana/assassinate pkers, dropping/putting on for sale board items to help their new crit out, conversing with known pkers to find out where they are/keep them out of your way, telling clan members/friends whos alt you are so they can help, letting monsters kill/steal so you can power train, sticking alts on yawning chasm so pkers cant enter boss, making you invisible ect ect) you would most likely find the fighter the easiest.

Title: Re: Zerkers best nOOb crit?
Post by -Gaddy- on 08/11/03 at 11:04:18
nah for real..pacifists are by far the best noob crits now...they're very easy to lvl and once they've got DU they're gold annoying persons and can get a halberd or pair of SGs if they get lucky (which people have on the hally..not sure about sgs though).

and personally i see quite a few pretty noobish players with high lvl fighters that they have to spend lots of money on to get equips and stuff when really they could use the gold to save up for a cleric..which someone should teach newer players that a cleric is the best thing you can get when you start out (for usual uses such as training or fighting)...

zerkers cost max of 120kish to deck out for a new player (cause csotw and bot aren't something i'd expect for players to consider in this)

Pacifists are easily the best new noob crit though...it shows too if you notice how many new players only use pacifists now...i mean..no weapons...even at lvl 25 all you really NEED to spend on them is like...10k for fireleaf...60k for SoF + low lvl equips if you want to get them.

Fighters cost a lot of money and get old a bit too quick to be much of a noob crit anymore....unless you have friends that you're just playing around talking to with while you train them..if you're only using a fighter they're pretty gay and you'll quit...or thats what i did...played with Evan and Chase while i got lancaster to lvl 23 or so..he was my only crit for the first 2 months or so that i played i think...

lol..my first hally costed 75k i think..maybe 80..not sure..remember i bought it off Masta_flash though lol and w/o staff for that matter...

Title: Re: Zerkers best nOOb crit?
Post by -Gaddy- on 08/11/03 at 11:11:38

on 07/31/03 at 00:15:59, Alicia wrote:
no way... imagine saving up to buy salve by soothing a skelly at 4hp/round for ten mins only to see a passing adept hit it once and take the kill (and the gold)

If someone would try arching a crit with NO assistance from their other crits/friends crits (including giving gold/items, healing, spelling up, partying with the crit to carry mana/assassinate pkers, dropping/putting on for sale board items to help their new crit out, conversing with known pkers to find out where they are/keep them out of your way, telling clan members/friends whos alt you are so they can help, letting monsters kill/steal so you can power train, sticking alts on yawning chasm so pkers cant enter boss, making you invisible ect ect) you would most likely find the fighter the easiest.


but you see, even most newer players can get friends in the game...most wouldnt do most of that stuff..but a friend that'll lend them 15k..or noobs doesnt really mean that they ONLY play 1 crit...could have a fighter or something around lvl 15 or so with blade of honor and make the gold for salve and stuff pretty quick in the sewers...but really fighters are not very good noob crits..im tellin ya..it is what i started with...they're not very helpful high lvl and not as fun to play since they dont do anything that helps them pk...which is most of the fun for many people...i never really did much pking unless i was hit first til i had new crits..and lancaster was my only crit til he hit around lvl 23 (thank goodness for Loveless and DH..they helped me out so much when i was starting out).

Edit- but really my point was that people will lend you gold or you can make the gold fairly easily for those spells, most high lvl people will not but there are some people who're pretty cool...i know i've seen Amy give noob players around 5k when they were asking for a little gold to buy spells for their druid.  Some people in game are pretty nice to new players...

Title: Re: Zerkers best nOOb crit?
Post by KasumiFire on 08/11/03 at 20:55:43
I disagree. In my opinion, Fighters are the best class for new players. They are easier to level, they don't have to buy costly spells, they have pretty good HP etc etc. Why would a new player want to stick with a Thief or Ranger that will take him a month to get to level twenty, when he can have a Fighter which can be level twenty-five? As far as your cost argument goes, I don't think it is quite valid. Pacifist spells cost a lot. Justice Zone alone costs a little under half of a spiked set. A Shield of Faith costs more than a Spiked Set as well. Also, with the gold making. Fighters are quite good at making gold. Believe it or not, back when I was a pretty new player, I made about 70k in a day, with my fighter. That was when he was level 20'ish.

Fighters own.

P.S. Berserkers smell.

Title: Re: Zerkers best nOOb crit?
Post by Tanis on 08/18/03 at 18:03:23

on 08/11/03 at 11:04:18, -Gaddy- wrote:
nah for real..pacifists are by far the best noob crits now...they're very easy to lvl and once they've got DU they're gold annoying persons and can get a halberd or pair of SGs if they get lucky (which people have on the hally..not sure about sgs though).


I got SGs with a lvl 19 pacifist ;D

Title: Re: Zerkers best nOOb crit?
Post by Mephistroth on 08/18/03 at 18:57:49
lmao, mainly because about 10 or so other people got it to mod/mort, then you came in and got the lucky kill.

Title: Re: Zerkers best nOOb crit?
Post by Turmoil on 08/27/03 at 09:37:12
pacifist's are the best newb crit especially because (most newbies) cant stand being killed yall kno whut im talkin about....you kill them they page you and curse you out...so ya in my eyez Pacifist'sare the best newbie crit not Berserkerz.

Title: Re: Zerkers best nOOb crit?
Post by PsychotikKnight on 12/05/03 at 22:31:24
Yeah though leveling up with Zerker is easy ( I got Paladin and Ranger as well as 2 Zerkers ) and well the 2 zerkers are easily my strongest and my best, Paladin is ok though I dont play with it much but Ranger does take a while to level with since the useful spells are bout towards level 15+ ( dual shot and + ) though I have never tried forage yet...though Pacifist sounds pretty simple from what I hear of oh well...maybe the characters arent noobish but just a lil better then the others in their own special way :P though I find Berzerkers maybe a lil too high on Hp for the reasons that he doesnt miss THAT much got a level 15 and started another one and I have to say Smite hits quite often and they dish out quite a lot of HP being able to take down the other opponent much quicker...except for Rangers Rapid Fire ...thats just plain crazy when it hits :P certainly all 5 shots 106 everytime can take down a Zerker if not 500 hp+ but yeah Zerkers are great for beginners since they are fairly easy to use and have high amounts of HP and dont cost a lot since all you need is a weapon...and maybe someone to heal you now and then...anyways thats all

Title: Re: Zerkers best nOOb crit?
Post by Silex on 12/05/03 at 23:09:54
...this post was made before pacifists were even a class i think...yes, pacis are a good way to make gold..but you must be able to make enough to buy DU and go to zeum for them to be very profitable.

my best suggestion for a new player would be to get a couple of zerkers (since they never need armor) and train them off small snakes to make a little gold 5-10k, then make an elf or human cleric and get it to lvl 18...then make gold to buy crits that are 4 stat or so (unless you've got the patience to roll..something i've never done and kept a crit in my acct. by doing)...get yourself a nice thief or if you can run them lvl up 3 thieves at once...and then train your 2 zerkers, 3 thieves, and cleric on the path below arilin...

Title: Re: Zerkers best nOOb crit?
Post by MaxPain on 12/29/03 at 17:44:20

on 06/05/03 at 07:22:00, InsaneNinjaPhreak wrote:
ahh my first hally was 80k second 50k...mmm I miss havin' rather cheap hally's...and fighters do make better "n00b" crits..I have atleast 7 of'em


Fighter's = easy prey to theives, rangers, and druid's. nothing can own a zerk one on one

Title: Re: Zerkers best nOOb crit?
Post by Rappy_Ninja on 12/29/03 at 18:53:43

on 12/29/03 at 17:44:20, MaxPain wrote:

Fighter's = easy prey to theives, rangers, and druid's. nothing can own a zerk one on one




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Title: Re: Zerkers best nOOb crit?
Post by Mephistroth on 12/29/03 at 19:27:36
Make it a fair, level 30 vs level 30 fight and then post.. for one the zerker wasn't even 29, so you can't comment.

Title: Re: Zerkers best nOOb crit?
Post by Rappy_Ninja on 12/29/03 at 21:10:37
actually yes it was do /who convict or look and see when I look him over

Title: Re: Zerkers best nOOb crit?
Post by Rappy_Ninja on 12/29/03 at 21:11:13
btw I can beat a normal average arch zerker 1v1 easy

Title: Re: Zerkers best nOOb crit?
Post by Everlast on 12/30/03 at 11:14:29
BTW this btw that, some new player posted nuts about zerkers in 1v1.  Why the hell am i posting about a nOOb responding to a new players post? Anyway, they're not so great w/o spells and really not so hard to beat except for those unpredicable rounds where they do a lot of damage.

Title: Re: Zerkers best nOOb crit?
Post by Consumed on 01/16/04 at 03:13:52
pacifist are  ;D...i came bak after i quit got one of them and bam got my account buildin bak up fine lol

Title: Re: Zerkers best nOOb crit?
Post by Everlast on 01/16/04 at 04:11:45

on 12/05/03 at 23:09:54, Silex wrote:
...this post was made before pacifists were even a class i think...yes, pacis are a good way to make gold..but you must be able to make enough to buy DU and go to zeum for them to be very profitable.

my best suggestion for a new player would be to get a couple of zerkers (since they never need armor) and train them off small snakes to make a little gold 5-10k, then make an elf or human cleric and get it to lvl 18...then make gold to buy crits that are 4 stat or so (unless you've got the patience to roll..something i've never done and kept a crit in my acct. by doing)...get yourself a nice thief or if you can run them lvl up 3 thieves at once...and then train your 2 zerkers, 3 thieves, and cleric on the path below arilin...


I've already covered that part homes.



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