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Claw
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Zerkers= overpowered.
« on: 12/23/03 at 01:42:10 » |
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nuf said. Now lets critisize me (since for some reason ppl think their underpowered  )
Ok here it is
1. they can smite for like 300+ at like lvl 24 and they lose very little HP
2. Beserk is insane. It does like 100 damage on a bad day per zerk and still, they dont lose that much HP.
3. They get about 400-500 HP
4. They can round anyone.
5. They get Stamina way to fast and they get six. That is like assassinating with 6 and rapid fireing with 6... thats insane
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Re: Zerkers= overpowered.
« Reply #1 on: 12/23/03 at 01:45:58 » |
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Why not tell us all, why you think they are overpowered?
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Claw
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Re: Zerkers= overpowered.
« Reply #2 on: 12/23/03 at 01:49:40 » |
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there added it
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Re: Zerkers= overpowered.
« Reply #3 on: 12/23/03 at 02:09:08 » |
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Do you have a level 30 zerk?
Have you dueled a level 30 zerk with other level 30 classes?
Have you been pked by a spelled up zerk that was 10 levels high than you?
Have you got any level 30 crits?
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Re: Zerkers= overpowered.
« Reply #4 on: 12/23/03 at 02:22:56 » |
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on 12/23/03 at 02:09:08, Eternyte wrote:Do you have a level 30 zerk?
Have you dueled a level 30 zerk with other level 30 classes?
Have you been pked by a spelled up zerk that was 10 levels high than you?
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1. no
2. no
3. yes
4. no ( my highest lvl : 25)
I have been pked by many zerkers though (a majority of my pks are by zerkers) And I have seen arch zerkers duel other arch ppl and the zerker always wins...
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Re: Zerkers= overpowered.
« Reply #5 on: 12/23/03 at 08:48:25 » |
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I rest my case.
When you have experience of the other 3, the main 3 items I have listed above then maybe you'll qualify to have an objective opinion.
Instead of complaining because you got pked by a spelled up zerk.
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Re: Zerkers= overpowered.
« Reply #6 on: 12/23/03 at 09:19:54 » |
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He has a point though. Zerkers are over powered, even someone who doesn't have one can notice that.
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Ok, so I kinda didn't ask.. oh well 
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Re: Zerkers= overpowered.
« Reply #7 on: 12/23/03 at 12:47:50 » |
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I don't have a high level one.. But if you catch one on it's own, not spelled up or anything, they're pretty easy to take down.
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Re: Zerkers= overpowered.
« Reply #8 on: 12/23/03 at 13:29:16 » |
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on 12/23/03 at 08:48:25, Eternyte wrote:I rest my case.
When you have experience of the other 3, the main 3 items I have listed above then maybe you'll qualify to have an objective opinion.
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If you would of saw what I said after those 4 questions:
I have been pked by many zerkers though (a majority of my pks are by zerkers) And I have seen arch zerkers duel other arch ppl and the zerker always wins...
and my lvl 25 thief has been taken down by lvl 23+ zerkers (and my thief is good)
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Re: Zerkers= overpowered.
« Reply #9 on: 12/23/03 at 13:39:43 » |
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on 12/23/03 at 13:29:16, Claw wrote:
If you would of saw what I said after those 4 questions:
I have been pked by many zerkers though (a majority of my pks are by zerkers) And I have seen arch zerkers duel other arch ppl and the zerker always wins...
and my lvl 25 thief has been taken down by lvl 23+ zerkers (and my thief is good)
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Two levels below you? Oh my.. You died, geez, get over it! It's just a game, if you don't like them being 'so strong', then do the smart thing... Make your own!!
Then you may get some other noob complaining they were PKed by you, and you can laugh at them...
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Re: Zerkers= overpowered.
« Reply #10 on: 12/23/03 at 14:29:02 » |
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on 12/23/03 at 13:39:43, alone wrote:| then do the smart thing... Make your own!! |
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How is the game ever going to progress if everyone just does that? Nothing will get fixed, one class will own all the others.. you need to make things balance, not just say 'meh, ill make one instead'
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Re: Zerkers= overpowered.
« Reply #11 on: 12/23/03 at 18:58:29 » |
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The zerks are fine they lose hp everytime since people complained before about smite and berserk. They have a load of hp because they have no armor and usually if there is a level 30 zerk there is usually a cleric with it. Now would you rather take the zerk as it is now or take on one with like 400 hp at level 30 armor and not losing hp I think not. Zerks are just fine.
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Re: Zerkers= overpowered.
« Reply #12 on: 12/24/03 at 00:42:06 » |
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oh yeah, eternaty, I think that anyone could get killed by anyone by any crit 10 levels higher than them supped up with spells!
oh yeah, like you said zerkers DO lose HP, but not very much...
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Re: Zerkers= overpowered.
« Reply #13 on: 12/24/03 at 02:11:54 » |
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I own 2 Arch Zerkers and can assure you that without spells they are far from over powered . . . infact they miss a lot . . . they are the most un reliable class there is . . .with spells they are deadly but then again what class isnt?
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Re: Zerkers= overpowered.
« Reply #14 on: 12/24/03 at 05:04:46 » |
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Berserkers have just as much power as a Thief/ ranger / fighter. Spelled up and unspelled. So you cant say there overpowered..
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Re: Zerkers= overpowered.
« Reply #15 on: 12/24/03 at 09:19:47 » |
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Berserkers are only overpowered when used in conjunction with clerics. However, when used with clerics druids/ranger/thief/fighter can 1 click/round berserkers without any trouble.
Easily solved by deleting clerics out of the game. Or by having an alt rule, where someone can't log on 3 zerks and a cleric for spells.
I have said it many times, "Alts are abused and ruin the game for everyone".
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Re: Zerkers= overpowered.
« Reply #16 on: 12/24/03 at 12:55:58 » |
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on 12/23/03 at 14:29:02, Mephistroth wrote:
How is the game ever going to progress if everyone just does that? Nothing will get fixed, one class will own all the others.. you need to make things balance, not just say 'meh, ill make one instead' |
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My main point, was that i believe them to be equal to other classes, as Eternyte said, only advantaged when with a Cleric, the same as every class...
So, as things won't change, just make your own, i don't want any, cus they're not how i like to play the game.
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Re: Zerkers= overpowered.
« Reply #17 on: 12/24/03 at 16:44:50 » |
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on 12/24/03 at 12:55:58, alone wrote:| So, as things won't change |
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You can't make statements like that when you have no evidence... If you read the Berserker sticky thread, you will see that many people are complaining about them being over powered. Pandilex might take note of this and modify them.
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Re: Zerkers= overpowered.
« Reply #18 on: 12/24/03 at 16:55:33 » |
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Fine... Fine. d**ned nit pickers... Won't change in the near future...
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Re: Zerkers= overpowered.
« Reply #19 on: 12/24/03 at 17:05:59 » |
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lol, i'm a nit picker just beacuse I said you have no evidence to back up your statement?
Edit: or is it because i'm right and you're not?
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Ok, so I kinda didn't ask.. oh well
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