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(Message started by: Sausage on 11/01/03 at 17:22:20)
Title: Offline Roller.
Post by Sausage on 11/01/03 at 17:22:20
What do you think? I'm sure there's a way it could be done.. I can see that it may be susceptible to hacking and things of that nature. I think it would be nice though.  :-/
Title: Re: Offline Roller.
Post by Tadpole on 11/01/03 at 17:37:38
Ya i thought about this idea too. Good idea.
Title: Re: Offline Roller.
Post by Outsider on 11/01/03 at 17:43:43
Wont get added cuz it would be way to easy to crack it and roll a lot of 6 stats....
Title: Re: Offline Roller.
Post by Prophet on 11/01/03 at 17:45:54
who said anything about having to roll them with this, you could add an extra program and just make them.
Title: Re: Offline Roller.
Post by SquiggleUK on 11/02/03 at 14:12:48
yup. if the roller is online you could easier code your own thing which just added strait away.  you see, the offline roller would be rolled offline, and the data would be sent to the server when you go online.  now, you could easily code something that made 6 stats, and have it send to the server when you are online.
Title: Re: Offline Roller.
Post by alone on 11/03/03 at 12:22:47

on 11/02/03 at 14:12:48, SquiggleUK wrote:
yup. if the roller is online you could easier code your own thing which just added strait away.  you see, the offline roller would be rolled offline, and the data would be sent to the server when you go online.  now, you could easily code something that made 6 stats, and have it send to the server when you are online.


Surely the same thing is still actually possible.. If you know the data that's sent to the server to get a 6 stat crit, surely couldn't you just recreate that data packet, and make the server think it's recieving it from the roller?

Not knowing loads and loads about computers im probably completely wrong about this.. But it sounds as though it should be possible.
Title: Re: Offline Roller.
Post by SquiggleUK on 11/03/03 at 13:41:07
i think the roller is server side, because if it was client side you would be able to open the file and start messing about with things.
Title: Re: Offline Roller.
Post by Omniscient on 11/03/03 at 13:51:57
Most likely the way it works is you click the roll button, it sends a message to the server, the server rolls some stats and sends them back, and you can either accept them or reroll.
Title: Re: Offline Roller.
Post by JLH on 11/03/03 at 15:17:04
yes, when you click roll, the client sends the race to the server, and the server replies with stats, the client does not make the stats itself
Title: Re: Offline Roller.
Post by Outsider on 11/03/03 at 15:18:36
cuz if it did then we wouldnt have lag....
Title: Re: Offline Roller.
Post by Despair on 11/03/03 at 16:29:43
if it did you could manipulate the roller to send infomation that you've rolled a 6 stat or whatever . . . at least the way its set up cheating is practially impossible
Title: Re: Offline Roller.
Post by Outsider on 11/03/03 at 17:17:41

on 11/03/03 at 16:29:43, Despair wrote:
if it did you could manipulate the roller to send infomation that you've rolled a 6 stat or whatever . . . at least the way its set up cheating is practially impossible


Not really...
Title: Re: Offline Roller.
Post by Stotic on 11/03/03 at 18:16:32
Yes really.
Title: Re: Offline Roller.
Post by Outsider on 11/03/03 at 18:19:44

on 11/03/03 at 18:16:32, Stotic wrote:
Yes really.


Wanne bet?
Title: Re: Offline Roller.
Post by Unknown_Me on 11/03/03 at 18:20:43
Stotic and Despair are correct.
Title: Re: Offline Roller.
Post by Outsider on 11/03/03 at 18:22:52
buncha noobs, just cuz ya cant fake the package doesnt mean you cant make an autoroller...
Title: Re: Offline Roller.
Post by Unknown_Me on 11/03/03 at 18:24:22
Yes, really noobs...you sure know what your talking about  ::)
Title: Re: Offline Roller.
Post by Outsider on 11/03/03 at 18:25:36
Yes i do, ask JLH if it possible to make an autoroller
Title: Re: Offline Roller.
Post by deSade on 11/03/03 at 18:26:41
'cas the stats are rolled server side, you would have to crack that, and while that is not impossible, why would ne1 wanna run the risk of getting caught just for a 6stat?
Title: Re: Offline Roller.
Post by Outsider on 11/03/03 at 18:30:33
k i'll explain, it wasnt that difficult to make an autoroller before the math question. the max stats are red, you just make a program which presses reroll untill all 6 stats are red.

now with the math question its waayy harder but can still be done in the same way.
Title: Re: Offline Roller.
Post by deSade on 11/03/03 at 18:35:52
True, but how they stop that is they change the math question to funky different shaped numbers that autorollers cant read.
Title: Re: Offline Roller.
Post by Outsider on 11/03/03 at 18:38:52
Autorollers read whatever you want it to read, as long as you have enough knowledge to make it happen.

As with the red of maxstats you wont let the roller read the numbers, but u just take a pixel and if its red its good and if its not it just keeps going.
Title: Re: Offline Roller.
Post by deSade on 11/03/03 at 18:42:24
Your right Outsider  8) but its a bit redundant 'cas I doubt NM has ne1 capable or if they are why would they run thet risk for a 6stat?
Title: Re: Offline Roller.
Post by JLH on 11/03/03 at 20:31:37
also, as they are easily discovered, you type in your account name and password one day to be greeted by the message "no such account exists..."
Title: Re: Offline Roller.
Post by Outsider on 11/03/03 at 20:35:37
haha, easily discovered....don't see you make jokes often, but hey, good one.  ;)
Title: Re: Offline Roller.
Post by JLH on 11/03/03 at 20:58:52
i'll assume you've used one then, your account has been banned, how's that for a joke?
Title: Re: Offline Roller.
Post by Medora on 11/03/03 at 21:07:59
Well if he hadnt of been disciplined for this, then he would have been for something I found out, and reported to JLH. He was bragging to me the other night, of course not realizing who I was, that he had made some very nasty posts under an alias forum name. He showed me the posts....I took it to JLH.

Isnt it a riot when people brag about things that theyve done that they shouldnt have? Isnt it that much more hilarious when its a staff member on a mortal crit that they are bragging to?
Title: Re: Offline Roller.
Post by Outsider on 11/03/03 at 21:37:56
Oh well unbanned again, and life goes on....if you can call it that.
Title: Re: Offline Roller.
Post by SquiggleUK on 11/04/03 at 00:04:27

on 11/03/03 at 20:58:52, JLH wrote:
i'll assume you've used one then, your account has been banned, how's that for a joke?


OMFG!!!! HAHAHAHA!!! THATS THE FUNNIEST DARN THING IVE SEEN ALL DAY (exclusing codingmasters on the AxeUK forum, what a newb).  LMAO!!  :o


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