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Title: Private Housing Post by Stotic on 10/13/03 at 23:20:22 I have discussed this idea in the past and now I want all of your input again. Here is a basic outline: There will be three different designs A shack - 500k to buy, 250k a month A house - 1 mil to buy, 500k a month A mansion - 1.5 mil to buy, 750k a month The monthly fee is to prevent over population of houses and to keep houses to active players. There will be a bank-type similar to a clan bank. That is where you will put your rent money into. Every month the system will take whatever the rent is out of that box. This is to help those who go away etc. If no rent is payed, your ownership of the house is erased with any upgrades you purchased for it. Houses will be available in every town in certain newly made districts. Shack 1 blank square 1 vault House 2 blank square 2 vault 1 kitchen 1 arena 1 sauna 1 bank Mansion 5 blank square 3 vaults 1 kitchen 1 arena 1 sauna 1 bank Ability to be out of housing districts town-only (IE: Viper Street) Kind of lacking on this one -- NPC’s available in same process as clans The houses will be in permanent positions. If you want to customize room placement then build a clan house. I’d like everyone to express their suggestions and opinions. |
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Title: Re: Private Housing Post by Drac on 10/13/03 at 23:47:08 why wouldnt someone just make make a clan house with as many rooms as they want.. on average that would prolly run about 500k.. and without the upkeep fee. I have the feeling that if anyone is gonna purchase a house, you'll have to reduce the steep upkeep fee.. otherwise is sounds pretty neat :) |
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Title: Re: Private Housing Post by Melfice on 10/13/03 at 23:48:26 The problem is i can't see people having that kind of money being constantly taken away for something that is basically just a clan house for yourself. Either the prices should be reduced or there has to be some major advantages than just saying that it is your own. |
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Title: Re: Private Housing Post by Stotic on 10/14/03 at 00:33:00 It is intended for the rich. |
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Title: Re: Private Housing Post by JLH on 10/14/03 at 00:39:54 as we have discovered many times in nightmist, there is always someone who is prepared to pay for it. we thought 10m for cobalt staff was insane when we set the price up, but how many people have them now? |
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Title: Re: Private Housing Post by Melfice on 10/14/03 at 00:41:26 Then what do the rich gain from there big spending? They could do the exact same by just buying a clan house and using it as their own house. I don't see the real benifits to owning a house. I like the idea, i just think that there needs to be something extra, something special to make it more attractive. |
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Title: Re: Private Housing Post by Stotic on 10/14/03 at 00:52:43 And that is why this thread is here. |
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Title: Re: Private Housing Post by Cyrax on 10/14/03 at 02:09:15 I like it, exept maybe lower the price for each month. Otherwise good idea. |
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Title: Re: Private Housing Post by Consumed on 10/14/03 at 02:11:54 i like..prices are fine,buut is there ne room newhere ??? lol |
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Title: Re: Private Housing Post by Stotic on 10/14/03 at 02:35:03 on 10/13/03 at 23:20:22, Stotic wrote:
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Title: Re: Private Housing Post by Cyrax on 10/14/03 at 02:38:49 They should have special benefits in this house, like half off on pots and stuff. Just an idea |
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Title: Re: Private Housing Post by Valos Overide on 10/14/03 at 03:27:13 Why?.. Woulden't sombody just make their own clan house, and not have to pay your 'monthly fee'?.. |
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Title: Re: Private Housing Post by Lady_Maha on 10/14/03 at 04:01:52 I agree that the monthly fee is a bit steep. Except for pacifist, people will only buy more clan houses. |
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Title: Re: Private Housing Post by Eiements on 10/14/03 at 07:15:57 Im thinking that maybe this could happen and be cool, but be done in a diff way kinda like the clan houses. you buy the sqaure, it would cost more in local places like nightmist say 200k first sqaure 300k next. or in like blackthorn they would be like 150k first 250k next. Maybe there could be like real expenceive land plots like maybe a house in the desert where it would make lvling easy but squares would be alot and up keep would be alot! this way its like the cost of land really is. and then you could add the vaults, pubs, ect.. for clanhouse prices and the upkeep would be based on the sqaure size of your room that way when you got richer you could add on like in real life. so like if you had like 4 squares upkeep would be like 200k a month and maybe like 10 would be 500k and on and on... |
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Title: Re: Private Housing Post by Snowy on 10/14/03 at 07:20:41 half of the price every month?? make it 10 % of its value and it sounds fine to me, and it ll be cool if u make all houses that got no owner yet open so everyone can look around and see how rooms are placed (should be different ways of room placing in each house) and theres a button outside the house "Buy this house" so when u like the way rooms are placed u just buy it. Would be cool to go around the nm and chose a house for yourself... :D |
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Title: Re: Private Housing Post by alone on 10/14/03 at 07:29:43 Unless you got rid of the website sales page.. And every 'house' worked as a shop.. That way people would have to go and buy things.. I remember seeing something about a stock system in pot shops? So if you got there earlier, the pots would be cheaper. How about if you could buy all the pots out of a shop one day, and put em all in your shop, and set a price. Rent could go up for different sized Shop/Houses: Small house: 1 Shop Front(50 storage spaces) 1 Lounge, for alts, can be set as local. Medium House: 1 Shop Front(100 storage spaces) 1 Lounge 1 Kitchen 1 Sauna Large House: 1 Shop Front(150 storage spaces) 2 Lounges 1 Kitchen 1 Sauna 2 Arenas A Shop(The most expensive): 2 Shop Fronts(300 storage spaces) 1 lounge 1 Kitchen 1 Sauna 1 Arenas 1 Guest room Not sure of room prices, and rent. But this'd come in, along with a new trading system and getting rid of the web site system, unless the web site took 10% as a 'middle' man (from both seller and buyer), sorta thing. That way, for the people who buy n sell alot, will save money.. Id expect clans to go into business as a group. Whoever puts the item in the store, gets the cash deposited to their account automatically. If crits could be turned into money order type slips, they could be sold here also. A lil slip, you do /library on the slip, and it tells you stats, the look over, level and HP/MP.. Obviously, i only just woke up about 20minutes ago, so forgive any mistakes. It's just an idea :-/ |
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Title: Re: Private Housing Post by Blood on 10/14/03 at 07:37:33 do u think that would make this game more fun?? >:( >:( >:( >:( |
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Title: Re: Private Housing Post by jadedgothgirl on 10/14/03 at 10:24:35 on 10/13/03 at 23:47:08, Drac wrote:
I agree, most players are broke, its WAY cheaper to buy a clan & keep it for personal use. |
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Title: Re: Private Housing Post by Outsider on 10/14/03 at 10:26:37 Whats the point, i already have all that stuff in my clan house. |
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Title: Re: Private Housing Post by Medora on 10/14/03 at 16:17:51 Would only your main alt be able to go in, or all your crits? Just one would be even more so pointless. The thing with personal houses as Id see it, would be you could have your own place to do whatever with, and still be in whichever clan you want. Id say the prices are quite a bit on the steep side tho... |
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Title: Re: Private Housing Post by G Man on 10/14/03 at 16:35:57 I think this is a great idea for pacis, but I don't see where it would apply to anyone who could join a clan. The prices do seem quite high. What happens if someone goes on vacation irl for two weeks and can't make rent for that month, do they get evicted and have to buy a new house? Also, why is rent charged on a house that has been purchased? Wouldn't a property tax be more appropriate, and also be a bit more reasonably priced? My input: Buy the first square for a set cost, then as rooms are added to the house taxes go up (much like in life). If someone wants 11 vaults, their house is more valuable, so they pay more taxes. Set up a value for the house and then property taxes can be a percentage of that per year/month. The taxes could also vary city to city based on amenities in that city and proximity to training grounds. |
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Title: Re: Private Housing Post by Stotic on 10/14/03 at 23:40:18 I'm against building the house how you want to because then its just basically a clan house. Storefronts are and have been an idea in the minds of staff. They have no place with houses though. I'm thinking about allowing more than one person in a house. You can set which characters to allow in. When they're all pitching in it isn't so expensive then is it? To prevent some abuse the amount of characters might have to be limited. |
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Title: Re: Private Housing Post by JLH on 10/15/03 at 00:12:34 storefronts are still a possibility, maybe it could be combined in, we'll have to see |
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Title: Re: Private Housing Post by Alicia on 10/15/03 at 01:14:46 Purchase prices seem pretty good but the 'taxes' are way too high... seems a waste to spent 1mill on a house then lose it and everything it it coz the desert/dendeya/2nd floor (best money making areas imo) are busy the times you go gold hunting one month... id say knock one zero off all the monthly fees, and change the house to vault/sauna/kitchen... leave the arena, multiple vaults and bank for the mansion. this would stop loads of houses appearing (not everyone has 1 mill spare, im struggling to buy critloads of mana atm :) ) and then losing their owners gold coz they are broke... that could also make experienced people leave the game, which is the last thing anyone wants :( everyone is broke at some point |
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Title: Re: Private Housing Post by Stotic on 10/15/03 at 01:29:23 I'll consider knocking down the rent/tax price substantially. |
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Title: Re: Private Housing Post by Silently on 10/16/03 at 06:44:13 I haven't been rich in this game yet. Just like real life! ;D |
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Title: Re: Private Housing Post by deSade on 10/18/03 at 13:00:37 Like in life, you have to plan for mortages etc. If you haven't enough money in the bank to pay your rent when you go on holiday, you get booted. But as in real life the baillif (sic) has a duty of care to your goods. In other words you don't lose your vault items as well but its kept safe and you get a month to retrieve them for a fee? Hugh |
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