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Title: The Spy Post by Spekkio on 10/08/03 at 13:18:36 All this talk about new characters needed in nightmist has givin me an idea. Spy Class: Races: Human, Elves, Gnomes, Halflings, Half-Elves Hp gain: Same as thieves. Mp gain: Same as paladins. Equipment: Armor same as thieves. Weapons daggers and swords. Abilities/Spells: Covert: Current ability. Hide: Same as Camouflage. Spy: As /look, but it shows Current HP/Max HP/Current MP/Max MP (and maybe items in inventory and/or gold) [cast spy/blah] <-- just so you know its different from spyglass. (Ability not spell | Lvl. 5 to use) Escape: Same as recall. Vision: Current spell. I don't think this has been suggested before, but it's a great idea!! Edit: Also, give them a higher % to spot covert thieves entering a room. |
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Title: Re: The Spy Post by alone on 10/08/03 at 13:29:20 What fighting abilities do they have, or do they work like secretive fighters? Some suggestions: Poison Weapon: Adds poison damage to your currect weapon. Level x 2 damage every 20seconds, Cleanse is the only way to remove it. Lasts for 1minute on the weapon. Example: You apply poison to your weapons blade. Dust Kick?: Works the same as Divine Light, lasts for 2minutes. Example: You kick dust into the air, causing confusion to all around you. Double Stab: Is a two stam attack, causing damage: Two normal hits+30%, meaning: Two normal hits=50 50+50=100 +30%=130 Obviously the 'normal' hit is a variable. Example: Using your lighting reflexes you lunge at your enemy with a deadly double blow. |
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Title: Re: The Spy Post by Spekkio on 10/08/03 at 13:31:48 on 10/08/03 at 13:29:20, alone wrote:
Exactly ;) |
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Title: Re: The Spy Post by Stotic on 10/08/03 at 22:21:52 We don't need any more covertable classes. |
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Title: Re: The Spy Post by Spekkio on 10/08/03 at 22:30:26 on 10/08/03 at 22:21:52, Stotic wrote:
You can never have enough covertable classes, but if that's the only problem... they don't have to have covert! ::) |
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Title: Re: The Spy Post by Phobos - Puppet on 10/08/03 at 22:37:36 Idea: Why don't they become a solo class, such as a pacifist? I do like the idea and that, it sounds interesting to play. |
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Title: Re: The Spy Post by Spekkio on 10/08/03 at 22:42:11 on 10/08/03 at 22:37:36, Phobos - Puppet wrote:
Good idea... who ever heard of a spy working in a group? ;D |
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Title: Re: The Spy Post by sayadin on 10/09/03 at 17:04:17 the spy huh??? So let me guess, he can go into clans houses and take gold out of them, that is if he is not detected in any way?? |
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Title: Re: The Spy Post by Spekkio on 10/09/03 at 17:26:00 on 10/09/03 at 17:04:17, sayadin wrote:
Um... No, that would be a thief!!! A spy would be used to gather information. He could find out how strong and weak crits are. With a camoflage like ability the spy can quickly and stealthly find out information on areas and what players are where. They aren't Great for combat, but they can hold thier weight. I for one would love to have a spy to find out all the info i need to know... for instance: You're running around training with 50,000 gold on one of your crits (you have 5 with you) by spying I can find out witch crit has the gold and get a party together to go kill that crit and run off with your gold. weee!!! |
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Title: Re: The Spy Post by Bishop on 10/09/03 at 17:40:30 sounds like you're suggesting replacing a well played theif with an 'automated or programmed thief'... I never had much trouble finding out who was training with the gold 8) I don't think any class will be approved unless it's unique and original, which this is not. |
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Title: Re: The Spy Post by Valos Overide on 10/09/03 at 23:00:45 on 10/09/03 at 17:04:17, sayadin wrote:
Hmm... now that sounds like fun (can't take gold/items, but he can go into them... and he'd have to get the mumble keys to rooms as well...) BUT TAKEING GOLD WOULD NOT BE GOOD! I dislike that idea... ps: The Spy could not go into rooms that require a possition in the clan (ie: Founders Vault/Bank) |
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Title: Re: The Spy Post by Spekkio on 10/09/03 at 23:48:07 Mwhahahh.... Yes!! Going into clans and spying would be the coolest thing ever! Maybe have a listen command/ability that makes them able to hear party chat going on in the same area. |
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Title: Re: The Spy Post by sayadin on 10/10/03 at 16:38:07 i can see it now... you will see spies name 'james bond' or '007'.. ha ha ha.. thats good.. oh and Spekkio.. how is school!!!! ha ha ha ha ha |
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Title: Re: The Spy Post by Alicia on 10/10/03 at 18:21:42 hmmmmm.. a thief with no steal or assass... may i ask one question.. HOW THE HELL WOULD YOU LEVEL IT??? |
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Title: Re: The Spy Post by Kharybdis on 10/10/03 at 20:13:29 Either through standard attacks or using an ability like the one alone suggested, I'm guessing. Judging from Stotic's response and the lack of response from other staffers this class doesn't seem to have much of a chance though. |
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Title: Re: The Spy Post by Alicia on 10/10/03 at 20:35:15 So heres a challenge for you all, lets see how hard this class really would be Level a standard thief to arch with no help from other alts, and without ever using assass of steal gold |
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Title: Re: The Spy Post by alone on 10/10/03 at 20:35:46 I doubt very much, any 'new' class would stand a chance, purely due to it lacking in originality. I posted afew ideas, not cus i want this class, but simply cus i'll help in any way i can, when someone needs it. |
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Title: Re: The Spy Post by Spekkio on 10/10/03 at 22:34:33 on 10/10/03 at 18:21:42, Alicia wrote:
HOW THE HELL DO YOU LVL A FIGHTER???? This class would be like a covert fighter, but with less hp and power to even it out. |
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Title: Re: The Spy Post by Alicia on 10/11/03 at 00:19:41 Have you seen how woeful the thief's standard attack is? A fighter has hit bonus, damage bonus, earlier stam and 6 stam to help them level. Thieves have assassinate (and steal to powertrain). from 29 to 30 = 70 mill Average fighter round = 80*4=320 (25.6kxp on sspider) Average thief assassinate round = 280 (22.4kxp on sspider) Average thief normal attack round = 30*3=90 (7.2k on sspider) Fighter needs 2734 rounds Thief assassing needs 3125 rounds Thief attacking needs 9722 rounds Would anyone ever use this class? Edit - Oh, and covert dosnt help your xp bar go up one little bit, so it hardly 'evens it out' |
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Title: Re: The Spy Post by sayadin on 10/13/03 at 04:45:23 a spy could have a dagger that has a poison that stuns the target. Kinda like tranquilizers, but not as powerful. Think about having a dagger that has the effects of a tranquilizer dart? It could attack the same as a 16 str. thief. at 19str... that could maybe even things out, if not then you can decrease the dmg??? |
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Title: Re: The Spy Post by Stotic on 10/13/03 at 05:07:04 Thieves have to work a little harder to get their covert and steal gold. |
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Title: Re: The Spy Post by Spekkio on 10/15/03 at 01:35:17 on 10/11/03 at 00:19:41, Alicia wrote:
As I stated, the spy should be able to use Swords too. He would be able to do more damage than a thief using regular attack (maybe around the same as assassinate). It just has to do less damage than a fighter, or the fighter class would become useless. And to answer your question about "Who would use it?" I would! And I bet lots more would too. If it is that much harder to arch... so what... just means you have accomplished more. |
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