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(Message started by: ThaGChild on 09/28/03 at 19:02:29)

Title: pking...
Post by ThaGChild on 09/28/03 at 19:02:29
i think that instead of a 10 level difference, it should be a 5 level difference. today i was trying to train my level 9 crit, and some level 19 guy comes and kills me in 2 attacks. everywhere i go, im gettin pked fast, but if there was a five level difference instead of 10, i could run away from the person because they wont be able to kill me in only 2 attacks.

Title: Re: pking...
Post by Outsider on 09/28/03 at 19:04:27
oh boohoo u die, lets change the rules, uuuhhh NO

Title: Re: pking...
Post by Despair on 09/28/03 at 20:20:46
be thankful that the 10 level difference has been put in because if it hadn't your level 9 would still be running away from Archmasters  :P

Title: Re: pking...
Post by Spekkio on 09/28/03 at 21:08:33

on 09/28/03 at 19:02:29, ThaGChild wrote:
i think that instead of a 10 level difference, it should be a 5 level difference. today i was trying to train my level 9 crit, and some level 19 guy comes and kills me in 2 attacks. everywhere i go, im gettin pked fast, but if there was a five level difference instead of 10, i could run away from the person because they wont be able to kill me in only 2 attacks.


Run Faster!!!


on 09/28/03 at 19:04:27, Outsider wrote:
oh boohoo u die, lets change the rules, uuuhhh NO


LOL!!!

Title: Re: pking...
Post by Valos Overide on 09/28/03 at 21:57:58
I accually like this idea, that way, lvl 30's could still attack people, but it would be more fair... (only attack you if you have like a full set of spiked armor on your fighter for example, unlike a set of Branchwood Armor on your lvl 20-24 fighter, who gets killed in less than one round.  if the armor is set up like this, so should the lvl attacking range)  And, all of you who are against this idea just don't like it because it lowers the ammount of people that you can kill with ease.


Do you people have no compassion for new players?..

Title: Re: pking...
Post by dec on 09/28/03 at 22:56:10

on 09/28/03 at 21:57:58, Valos Overide wrote:
Do you people have no compassion for new players?..


let me go all jlh on you for a moment




















no

Title: Re: pking...
Post by Outsider on 09/28/03 at 23:07:55

on 09/28/03 at 21:57:58, Valos Overide wrote:
And, all of you who are against this idea just don't like it because it lowers the ammount of people that you can kill with ease.


Do you people have no compassion for new players?..


I dont pk, my main only has like 80 pks on his profile. And be glad theres a 10 lvl restriction, cuz a lot of players lvled when there wasnt one. instead of wanting the game to get even more easy then it already is. Try, try and try some more untill u finally get to the lvl u desire, cuz whats the point in playing if u get everything handed out to you without the effort.

Title: Re: pking...
Post by Tanis on 09/29/03 at 01:00:53

on 09/28/03 at 21:57:58, Valos Overide wrote:
Do you people have no compassion for new players?..


We have as much compassion as the people had for us back when we started.

Zero, when we were noobs lvl 30s killed lvl 1s.

Get over it?

Title: Re: pking...
Post by James on 09/29/03 at 06:12:38
I think the hole 10 lvl's was stupid in the first place it should be removed if a player is smart enough to train out side of town thats a risk they take all this dose is focus pk'ing wich isn't right there is always gona be some way to take advantage of this and one of the big ways is to have some chrts that can't be attacked or can't attack the victom but can sit there and cast heal spells and so on when dose this madness end?

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Post by -Gaddy- on 09/29/03 at 06:47:34
You know, when i started, no-lvl rule on pking, (i think you still had to be lvl 5 to be pked though).  I used to think "dammit the ***s need rules put on them" and say that it should be limited to 5 lvls.
After playing a while and having high lvls it seems more like "dammit these retarded noobs run around on lvl 14s and talk crap while pking my baby crits.  I cant bring an arch in and get rid of them with something that i spent the time in game to get, that is kind of dumb."

Take out the 10 lvls rule and the game isnt really improved at all, an arch doesnt need to be killing lvl 11s and stuff unless the lower lvl is pking his or her baby crits (i think there should be a way to allow higher lvls to hit lower lvls...like..if a member of your party is attacked lvl rule turns off) because lvl 11s are too easy for an arch to kill and do not help the arch in any way.  I do not see lvl 6-14 crits carrying around more than 500 gold.  Maybe making it 15 lvls, but then lvl 25s could hit lvl 10s...still kind of un-even.   Game doesnt seem very easy when you first start, lots of people make it kind of difficult.  Stick with it, the game is the best and worth the time,, you'll meet friends and stuff and dying will matter less and less, then more and more...but by then you shouldnt die as much.

Title: Re: pking...
Post by Issy on 09/29/03 at 11:21:55
This is the dumbest post i've ever seen.

When i first started to play, level 1's could kill anyone. Being their level one or not.

The name of the game is survival, kill everyone, and run fast.

Play the game, be happy, stop complaining.

Isaiah.

Title: Re: pking...
Post by James on 09/30/03 at 00:47:46
and thats how it should be and I say change it back  :o

Title: Re: pking...
Post by rebel_blaidd on 09/30/03 at 10:12:02
basically just make ur crits stronger and go as fast as you can cause there are some very lame pkers that will find any loop hole no matter what the rules are in order to kill you whenever i go outside i assume i WILL die if i dont then great if i do then i try again or go a different way or being an aussie waiting untill no one is on lmao also you could try getting in a clan to protect you but plz no more rules the more rules there are the more crap a game gets and it could end up being no pking at all if u keep pushing the issue

Title: Re: pking...
Post by Momba on 09/30/03 at 10:28:11
I'm not even gonna read past the first post and say only 2 thing.
1) Remove the level restriction.

2) If you don`t want to be pked get a Pacifist.

Title: Re: pking...
Post by Eternyte on 09/30/03 at 17:26:08
Also in accordance with Jim number 2)

If you dont like to be Pk'd, then quit. This games revolves around Pking.

As for the people who were newbs when level 30's could kill level 1's. What are you complaining for, atleast you got smart and learnt the map faster in order to run away.

As for the newbs who dont like being pked by 10 level's either way, use the age old tactic of many a n00b old player.

"Rapid Logging".

Anyway, most of you guys didnt have a loose monkey around when you were leveling. Also you didnt have Pandilex' Lil Demon. I miss him anyway.


Pandilex let your baby out of his cage every once in a while!!

Title: Re: pking...
Post by -Gaddy- on 09/30/03 at 21:44:34
Entirely removing the lvl restriction would just get too old for little crit training or new players trying to start out, it is very frustrating and discouraging.....i remember.

Old player's should remember that new players should have a fair chance to start out, even though it was harder for them back in the day.

Title: Re: pking...
Post by Valos Overide on 10/01/03 at 01:41:47

on 09/28/03 at 22:56:10, "The Great" Dec wrote:
no


I'm sure that you can't comprehend this, and if you can, and you know what you typed.. it's messed up, because you just agreed with me...  (you see, I said "have you *NO* compasion -...")


on 09/29/03 at 01:00:53, "The Odd-Ball" Tanis wrote:
Zero, when we were noobs lvl 30s killed lvl 1s.


Yes, you all say that, but you don't know how easy it was back then... you see, now all of you are 'grown up' and have strong crits of your own, as to when 'back then' there were only a handfull of Pk'er, as to now, where it's almost everybody 2 lvl's higher than you... >:(

You guys think that if you kill a few ppl / day, it's not much... but think of how many there are of you, think of how many you kill times that by like 250, and thats how many ppl get killed / day... (there are less new players, than there are of you guys)

Title: Re: pking...
Post by Stotic on 10/01/03 at 01:52:53

on 10/01/03 at 01:41:47, Valos Overide wrote:
but you don't know how easy it was back then...

And you do?  :P

Title: Re: pking...
Post by Valos Overide on 10/01/03 at 22:06:31
Accually, my good friend dave did play back then (but he quit the game recently due to this thief thing...)  And I played for like 2 months back then. ;)

Title: Re: pking...
Post by Stalker on 10/02/03 at 23:28:38
all this talk of  ppl crying cos they keep dying is stupid. i may not b the most experienced player but i have been playing long enuf to remember when i was getting kill by archys at lvl 1 IT SUCKED a$$ ppl who just started shud stop complaining and think themselves lucky that they didnt start when i did (which is just under a year ago now lol) if ne1 disagree with me take it up with my thiefs cos they do most of the talking/assasinating for me



A wise man once told me that if you dont hurt people they wont hurt you........... He lied so i killed him               (this is one of the first things i learnt in this game) Stalker_of_Death ;D

Title: Re: pking...
Post by Tanis on 10/03/03 at 01:25:00
I may be an 'odd-ball' Valos, but atleast I know the game. You complain because you're a god d**n newb with little power. Boohoo? I had little power too, and there were just as many pkers then, and ruthless ones at that. I had people follow me around for hours killing me. BoD in general had most of the towns surveyed and killed anyone who came through. I'm sorry you're a new player and don't liked to have to have all your "hard work" ruined, but for christs sake, WHO CARES.

You die, you just go train again. Get smarter, not whinier. Bucking Fabies. (Some will get it.)

Btw, who are you in-game so I can show you some of the old ways of pk. You'll never leave town, but because JLH shelters you bishes with rules that stops us experienced ones from dealing out lessons, you have every right to start stuff you can't finish.

Get a life dude, it's unfair that we all had to work harder than you do to get an arch? I'm more than positive back then arching was 10x harder than it is now, but jesus christ, go play with yourself if you don't like a game that revolves around people DYING. GET THE HELL OVER IT.

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Post by Maltakano on 10/03/03 at 20:11:28
well said tanis

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Post by Lich on 10/03/03 at 21:20:33
Never thought i say this. But i agree with the pkers on this one. Ask anyone of them i die alot. But I still managed to get in high 20's with a crit. When i first started I remember my lvl 1 fighter getting killed not by one round but by one swing of a arches round.. Buy changing this rule you put people in a position that they have an advantage that no one else did.

Stop crying and find ways around it. Run faster, and for crying out loud stay away from south of nightmist unless your a paci. I have never hunted there except once and i died fast so I left.

Title: Re: pking...
Post by Issy on 10/04/03 at 14:47:13
This post is still going on?

God you noobs need to get over it. When I was a noob, BoD killed everyone, it was inevitable. When i was a noob, it wasn't easy....at all. BoD was always after you, you couldn't get a moment to train without someone popping up and killing you.

Unlike you, I didn't complain. It happens, big deal GET OVER IT! Go cry to someone who actually cares. You posting here isn't going to make this idea implemented, just make more people hate you. What i have, i worked for so i could become better than the noobs like you (even though i'm still a noob by nature)
Go train, become better and you won't die. Its not rocket science.

Pandilex, bring back Pandilex' Lil Demon!

Title: Re: pking...
Post by TheGreatMilenko on 10/05/03 at 12:02:56

on 10/03/03 at 01:25:00, Tanis wrote:
I may be an 'odd-ball' Valos, but atleast I know the game. You complain because you're a god d**n newb with little power. Boohoo? I had little power too, and there were just as many pkers then, and ruthless ones at that. I had people follow me around for hours killing me. BoD in general had most of the towns surveyed and killed anyone who came through. I'm sorry you're a new player and don't liked to have to have all your "hard work" ruined, but for christs sake, WHO CARES.

You die, you just go train again. Get smarter, not whinier. Bucking Fabies. (Some will get it.)

Btw, who are you in-game so I can show you some of the old ways of pk. You'll never leave town, but because JLH shelters you bishes with rules that stops us experienced ones from dealing out lessons, you have every right to start stuff you can't finish.

Get a life dude, it's unfair that we all had to work harder than you do to get an arch? I'm more than positive back then arching was 10x harder than it is now, but jesus christ, go play with yourself if you don't like a game that revolves around people DYING. GET THE HELL OVER IT.


i agree totally with ryan

easy way to fix noobs get some lvl 15 fighters zerkers and arch cleric spell up and let rip on lil muther fkers at south gate i used to do that when bored

Title: Re: pking...
Post by rebel_blaidd on 10/06/03 at 02:03:38
lol i go south when i have hardly any life and i want to die so i get my mp and hp back its funny when i attack back and take off 12 oppose to there 40 or so lol

Title: Re: pking...
Post by Maltakano on 10/06/03 at 16:16:47
wtf is that supposed to mean?

Title: Re: pking...
Post by Eternyte on 10/06/03 at 16:21:03
He means he doesnt want to spend 100 gold to go to the tavern to heal/mana. So instead he goes south (possibly from South Gate House). Wait for someone to attack and kill him so he dies and gets full hp/mp again.
His thought in this process of wanting to die is "what the hell, might as well scratch them a touch if they are getting a pk out of me".

Pretty simplistic really, also at a low enough level it is more beneficial to die, than to spend 100 gold.



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