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Title: lets see how quick this gets locked :) Post by magitoma on 08/13/03 at 03:17:50 i sugest that the staffys get there heads outa there butts and learn how to not blow off nm players .... and dont give me excuses staffys cuz i gave one of u plenty of time and u just blew me off didnt even say anything didnt even tell me u were busy so thats what suggest and anyone that wants to post sumtin smart about this post go ahead :) be my guest though Havanor and Oracle are cool :) |
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Title: Re: lets see how quick this gets locked :) Post by JLH on 08/13/03 at 04:07:57 why don't you post an example of how staff are not helping you? |
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Title: Re: lets see how quick this gets locked :) Post by magitoma on 08/13/03 at 05:10:52 i didnt say they dont help i just said they blow ppl off :) though i guess the post was a little outa line and i was a bit mad :P heh o well no the staffys are good ppl and if they wernt around especialy pandi and jlh we wouldnt be playing this game so... i guess all in all there good ppl so is the rest of the staff sorry staffys |
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Title: Re: lets see how quick this gets locked :) Post by Spongebob22 on 08/13/03 at 05:12:48 Wow, quick change of events there huh? |
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Title: Re: lets see how quick this gets locked :) Post by Direwolf on 08/13/03 at 07:33:21 looks like somebody wussed out hwne he was confronted by god here <points at swolen headed JLH> |
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Title: Re: lets see how quick this gets locked :) Post by deadman on 08/13/03 at 08:49:08 hmm strong words for a lil guy see how fast he changes his words when confronted... lame... |
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Title: Re: lets see how quick this gets locked :) Post by Ice_Cold on 08/14/03 at 05:24:00 ill post something, the other day i wanted to trade someone, yelled, no staff, /? no staff, then i log on an alt after he left...Pandilex is at south gatehouse talking to people...curious, i /? oh wow, no ones on, even more curious, i yell asking for help in a trade on my alt in north gatehouse, so i watch on my other s/n as he just keeps talking |
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Title: Re: lets see how quick this gets locked :) Post by Dan on 08/14/03 at 06:10:53 on 08/13/03 at 04:07:57, JLH wrote:
Talk to Pandilex about my memo. on another note... I've sat here and seen a slight decrese in staff help. Most of us understand that the current staff are busy doing thier part in development, as well as playing thier own crits, But of ll things there should be at least 1-2 others that don't have full staff ops, but could be known as "Traders". Such a title should be quite obvious therefor I'm not going to explain it. Secondly, It would be nice if say we were going to be away for a while, we would be able to set our account on "Vacation". Thus making it so people wouldn't ask others to watch that thier accounts stayed active as to avoid deleted crits/accounts. Staff can say "Don't share accounts, passwords, etc..., Don't trade without staff present, etc.. till they are blue in the face. It's about time yall actually get together and discuss this, for obviously people aren't going to pay attention/listen therefor causing all of you staff members to hear whining, bytching, and crying. |
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Title: Re: lets see how quick this gets locked :) Post by Lady_Maha on 08/14/03 at 07:35:51 I do agree that currently there just isn't enough staff to monitor all the ongoing trades. JLH stated that there would be an automatic trading system soon though, eliminating all need for staff watching trades. My suggestion would be to at least temporarily appoint some new staff, that would monitor trades until this system is put in. Make it known from the start that the staff position is only a temporary one, and only consider those who are fine with knowing they will not stay staff after the automatic trading system gets implemented. |
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Title: Re: lets see how quick this gets locked :) Post by Stotic on 08/14/03 at 09:06:30 on 08/14/03 at 06:10:53, Dan wrote:
Only a small % of staff actually play and even so it has no affect on their production outcome. |
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Title: Re: lets see how quick this gets locked :) Post by Dan on 08/14/03 at 14:26:31 on 08/14/03 at 09:06:30, Stotic wrote:
I was trying to cover ALL bases. I didn't say 1 word about it affecting thier production, but I see i'll have to explain some things. I'll put it this way... EX: Your eating dinner. As your eating someone knocks on your door leding you to get up and answer it. It doesn't affect your dinner too much, it just makes it so your dinner is pushed off to the side for a few minutes, thus this being bothersome and a pain in the butt. Get the point yet? :-/ |
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Title: Re: lets see how quick this gets locked :) Post by Stotic on 08/14/03 at 18:42:34 It was more a comment then an 'attack' on your post. |
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Title: Re: lets see how quick this gets locked :) Post by Matt on 08/14/03 at 19:36:12 The current staff seem to be lazy. Every time I log on there are _NEVER_ any un cloaked. Did you all forget that players need you to watch trades and handle things? I have even yelled for staff while online and none comes. Seems like they have all got wore out and lazy :-* |
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Title: Re: lets see how quick this gets locked :) Post by Outsider on 08/14/03 at 21:18:30 on 08/14/03 at 19:36:12, Matt wrote:
Thats cuz they dont respond if u can see them online, they only respond to pages. And seeing at the amounts of ppl screaming for staff nowadays i dont blame them for ignoring it, cuz its ussually a bunch of crap whatever they need staff for. |
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Title: Re: lets see how quick this gets locked :) Post by Dan on 08/14/03 at 21:38:14 on 08/14/03 at 18:42:34, Stotic wrote:
Then I misunderstood your comment, but I still don't see how there is only a small % that "play". It seems to be more around the area of 40% - 50% |
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Title: Re: lets see how quick this gets locked :) Post by Zephie on 08/15/03 at 00:14:59 Magitoma - I'm pretty sure most of your post is directed towards me.. Let me explain something to you all, Magitoma is the type of player who enjoys yelling for staff..I tp to him and he asks me "How are you, I want to get to know my fellow staffies!" I understand you're just being friendly but really, I have trades to watch and such and don't really feel like sitting there explaining my life story to a stranger on a game. After I tp away "or blow him off" as he puts it, he sits there and starts yelling about how staff suck...Why should I have to deal with that? As staff I'm here to help you with the game, not be-friend you and make small chit-chat with you. Sorry if that seems rude but that's just the way it is. on 08/14/03 at 19:36:12, Matt wrote:
Lazy? you have no idea what goes on behind the scenes or what areas have been finished..etc, a lot depends on JLH which seems to be pretty busy. |
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Title: Re: lets see how quick this gets locked :) Post by James on 08/15/03 at 00:19:36 you shouldn't and I'm just as gillty about yelling to you and bothering u but I don't try and pry into ur lifes history I usuly leave it to a hi how are ya but when dealing with children you must be ferm wich I mean come on who wan'ts to disaplen these rug rats? you shouldn't have to but ppl who are just habitual with being a persisten pain in the arse should just be baned start off 1 day 3 days week 2 weeks month and this would deture him a bit I would hope and if not just ban him permintly ??? |
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Title: Re: lets see how quick this gets locked :) Post by Exor on 08/15/03 at 00:55:37 on 08/15/03 at 00:19:36, James wrote:
WTF did you just say?! ??? |
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Title: Re: lets see how quick this gets locked :) Post by Bean on 08/15/03 at 02:48:08 I second that.... If anyone could decipher that It would be great.... |
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Title: Re: lets see how quick this gets locked :) Post by Deval on 08/15/03 at 03:29:27 on 08/15/03 at 00:19:36, James wrote:
I've never laughed so hard, not because of 'what he said', but because, 'what did he say?' |
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Title: Re: lets see how quick this gets locked :) Post by Astrona on 08/15/03 at 03:47:48 This is so horribly off topic..But I love that cat Deval..it matches u so well..I crack up everytime I see it..anyways..I would translate it for u..Because I understood it..But I'm to tired.. |
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Title: Re: lets see how quick this gets locked :) Post by Creed on 08/15/03 at 04:32:15 If you ask me, I suggest they should hire more staff and all. Not because the staff now are 'lazy' or 'not good enough' or whatever, don't get me wrong. It would just make alot of things easier for the players, staff, and the game even. There are so many ppl that play this game with good leadership, people that are very creative, and very mature that are able to be a staff member. (If I'm a bit off topic, my bad) But anyways, like I said, everything would be smooth for a staffer if there were more. But that's just my suggestion. ~Çrééd |
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Title: Re: lets see how quick this gets locked :) Post by Lady_Maha on 08/15/03 at 17:48:13 on 08/15/03 at 00:19:36, James wrote:
Attempted translation: He agrees that Zephie shouldn't have to put up with the behavior she described, and admits to also being guilty of occasionally bothering Zephie with yells, although he doesn't go as far as Magitoma, attempting to get intimate details out of her. He compares the NM population with children, whom you have to discipline at times, although you may not like it, and suggests a banning pattern for people who continuously harasss staff. Lady_Maha self-appointed forum translator |
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Title: Re: lets see how quick this gets locked :) Post by Nightmist Legend on 08/15/03 at 19:04:39 Three Simplewords below, will show you what staff are. Very lazy people |
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Title: Re: lets see how quick this gets locked :) Post by Creed on 08/15/03 at 19:33:39 Four simple words man You have no idea Just b/c you dont see staff ingame or w/e doesn't mean they are actually lazy people. They do work on the game alot mind you, you just don't know what they do, nor do I. So I don't think you know 'exactly' what kind of people they are. And yes, they do need to get in gear with a few stuff, or fix this and that. |
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Title: Re: lets see how quick this gets locked :) Post by Lady_Maha on 08/16/03 at 00:20:13 Once again Rich, you show the remarkable level of your immaturity. All you see is what's right in front of your nose. Staffers are working their rear ends of to make this game for us. They VOLUNTEER their own free time to do that, in addition to school/college/job, when they could just find another idiot to do all the work and enjoy playing the game to it's fullest extend instead. Volunteering to work makes them anything BUT lazy. Every single bit they contribute to this game is more than what you do. |
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Title: Re: lets see how quick this gets locked :) Post by Teh Dark Fluff - On Vacation on 08/16/03 at 00:22:26 *Appluads Maha's performance A simple ping ^___^ don't ask, but she is right. |
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Title: Re: lets see how quick this gets locked :) Post by James on 08/16/03 at 01:45:29 yell hey not that this makes it right but they should know by now what there in for being staff JLH and pandilex certenly know and they simply ignore any stupid $H!T that ppl throw there way and pretty much ignore you if ur a pain in the @rse to my knowlage the only time they have realy done any thing is if they saw it them selfs or if other staff get them involed other wise they just simply don't have the time and yes call me a @$$ kisser if you like but simply put bla bla bla its all been done for the past 2 years I'v been playing nm and beyound this I seriously dout has changed since before I got here and hasn't changed after i got here so FOR THE LOVE OF GOD LOCK THIS POST PLEASE! |
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Title: Re: lets see how quick this gets locked :) Post by Exor on 08/16/03 at 01:48:20 again...HUH?! ??? |
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Title: Re: lets see how quick this gets locked :) Post by Bean on 08/16/03 at 01:50:45 Oh my god... Why do you even post? If you cant use that button above your shift bar, or for that matter ANY of those buttons over on that section of the keyboard *punctuation* you should probably just NOT post, or get someone else to post for you. You really, REALLY, need to get some better typing skills. :) |
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Title: Re: lets see how quick this gets locked :) Post by Nightmist Legend on 08/16/03 at 01:52:51 on 08/16/03 at 00:20:13, Lady_Maha wrote:
They are lazy end of story, for all i care, they can shut the game down. They do jack nuts on Nightmist, except waste time. Pandilex is yelling useless nuts all the time when he could concentrate on things that need doing, Should give Maha, and James the title of "Nightmist Ass Kissers" |
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Title: Re: lets see how quick this gets locked :) Post by Sausage on 08/16/03 at 01:57:09 Rich you're just being a turnip just because you quit. No for real go quit and leave us to our "ass kissing" ::) |
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Title: Re: lets see how quick this gets locked :) Post by Nightmist Legend on 08/16/03 at 01:58:41 You don't control me, i'll stay here if i want, staff want to ban me, fine, i'd find a way around it, afterall, theres a way around everything. |
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Title: Re: lets see how quick this gets locked :) Post by Sausage on 08/16/03 at 02:01:10 Oh ok tough guy. And you think you're a Nightmist Legend? :o |
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Title: Re: lets see how quick this gets locked :) Post by James on 08/16/03 at 03:26:09 what ever ur just mad cus they banded u I see ur point but don't agree I'm just tierd of ppl arguing about stuid $h!t whats changed since we started playing? not a hole lot as far as staff go its all the same so whats the point of arguing? |
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Title: Re: lets see how quick this gets locked :) Post by Exor on 08/16/03 at 04:33:38 Dude...do you not know English,are you 8 years old,or are you just plain retarded? lol |
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Title: Re: lets see how quick this gets locked :) Post by CPG on 08/16/03 at 04:34:03 on 08/15/03 at 00:14:59, Zephie wrote:
That's right. We players don't know what's going on behind the scenes. You could be having turniptail parties in the staff room and laughing at all the unanswered yells. Perhaps JLH is a slave driver and working you all like children in a sweat shop. Us players can never know what's happening, so we make decisions for ourselves on what is going on. Now, from what I understand, there are several areas finished and some are still being worked on. But, there is to be no new projects started until JLH says it's ok. What I conclude from that is that staff have less to do, which means yes, more free time. Stupid filter...heh. |
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Title: Re: lets see how quick this gets locked :) Post by Roc on 08/16/03 at 05:31:16 I didn`t read all of the thread. I read the main post by the person who started the topic. All I can say is there are times I too have felt shunned or ignored. One thing you have to remember though is your not the only player in NM. Many times players choose to deal with certain staff thus when they log on they are overwelmed with requests. Another thing I might point out is that unlike our crits, staff see almost everything. We see friend, enemy, and clan chat as well as the chat on that square and random yells from players within 1 square of us. They see every yell in the game, clan, friend, enemy and square chat as well and the 20 or so pages coming in after they are uncloaked. Even though you might feel your request to have them oversee a trade is the most important thing in the game at that time, this isn`t always true. Other players request the assistance of staff and it up to staff to take care of the most pressing issues at hand with the limited time they have. Some of you might not understand limited time... They do have lives. Not all of them are like you and I. I yelled for 4 days to have JLH buy rooms back from a clan and each time ignored. It doesn`t take more then 1 yell or page for him to get the message. If you don`t get a response assume he or other staff members are busy and wait til next time they are on. Oh and on the 5th day JLH came running and was done with my request in no time. PATIENCE MY GOOD FRIENDS. |
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Title: Re: lets see how quick this gets locked :) Post by Bean on 08/16/03 at 06:11:32 If players where more.... Informed this would not be a problem. Bur seeing as how every new idea has to be a secret we do not know what is going on. I propose a new area Be added to the forum, an area called "Area progress" In it staff members can post thier 'non-secret' Area ideas *Nothing really beyond the name, not like any nitty gritty detail* And along with that they place a % number that will tell us how MUCH of that area is done. This way we will be able to see new areas/ideas/quests, and how far along they are. If staff update the %age Often enough there will be no possible way for us to claim they are lazy, Because we will indeed know what is going on behind the scenes. *not exactly whats going on, but enough to make better judgement calls when yelling for staff/posting on the forum* Yes? No? :) |
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Title: Re: lets see how quick this gets locked :) Post by Roc on 08/16/03 at 08:06:47 I`m the first person to pester staff about new areas, class changes or just simple additions. I hounded pandilex everytime I saw him on about the pacifist. And it's all becuase I was impatient. The anticipation is half the excitement of a new area. So even tho I`m still going to hound the hell out of Pandilex and Jlh(gotta love those small letters:/) I`m glad they just ignore me. Aside from the level cap(I still think it sucks) I have not been disappointed with anything new, improved or removed from the game. I`m sure new areas are ready. If Jlh(that`s the politically correct spelling) added all the areas that are ready at once, then what would we have to look forward to? So as much as it kills me to say it, sit back enjoy what ya got and look forward to something wonderful. |
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Title: Re: lets see how quick this gets locked :) Post by Lady_Maha on 08/16/03 at 08:08:11 I don't need to kiss ass on a MuD-game, Rich. I am just telling things how they are. If you don't like it, tough for you. Is that why you quit, Rich? Because staff wouldn't jump at each of your demands, and you had to wait in line like everyone else? |
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Title: Re: lets see how quick this gets locked :) Post by Eternyte on 08/16/03 at 09:36:29 1. /? - There are no staff online to help you at the moment. This means that there are no staff online to help you. If however a staff member is online. Although just cloaked then it is at their personal discretion whether they help you or not. This could be down to previous history, and your current attitude towards the staff. It's the same as say paging Jen on her mortal crit to log on her staff crit to help you. Only when you type /? - and it says 'xxxxx is online'. Thats when I would say they should help no matter what. 2. No one actually knows just how busy the staff members are except for themselves. I know that Jen has 2 areas approximately to be realised into the game shortly. Also I would think that conduct on the forums could help in the speed your questions for help are dealt with by a staff member. I mean if your on the forum saying how unfair Pandilex is treating you, or not helping you. Then you call him every name in your limited vocabulary. Then obviously on the game he'll think "Sod that, I'm not helping him". 3. A little tip from me to the rest of the players. If you want the staff team to help and respect you. You have to help and respect the staff team. Granted somethings wont always go your way, but hey, thats life and there is nothing you can do about it. So why worry about whats out of your control. |
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Title: Re: lets see how quick this gets locked :) Post by SullenUrchin on 08/16/03 at 09:48:14 on 08/16/03 at 09:36:29, Eternyte wrote:
ur wasting ur time I'v said this a bazillion times and u'll be called a suck up flamed and every other thing they can think of |
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Title: Re: lets see how quick this gets locked :) Post by Vodka on 08/16/03 at 09:57:24 on 08/16/03 at 09:48:14, SullenUrchin wrote:
Pssh, now, he will for you bringing it up! Just don't give staff a hard time, remember.. they could be busy working on an area or helping others. They're only one person.. and can only do so many things at once. Tired of hearing complaints about staff.. it was brought up before numorous of times, didn't see it for awhile.. and yet brought up again.. ::) people will never learn. |
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Title: Re: lets see how quick this gets locked :) Post by SullenUrchin on 08/16/03 at 12:58:34 I try not to some times its fustratinn when there not on but I"m real about the hole thing I know staff work and so on and no ppl will never learn so 3 months from now these post will be barried and yet another one will come up but hey like NM ledgand said I'm just a @$$ kisser even though its never gained me a thing from any of the nm staff never has in fact and shure I'll bring it up once more time the only time JLH realy helped me was when cyric pk'ed me in the church before nm had a hour log off I was just sitting there and ppl complaned so he came and killed me JLH gave me my exp back and took the killed by staff count off and the only other time I can think of JLH helping me was with a clan room moving so wow all that @$$ kissing got me so far in nm I just can't stop ::) |
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Title: Re: lets see how quick this gets locked :) Post by JLH on 08/16/03 at 20:30:48 we don't tell people what we are working on at present, because if it's cancelled (ie attrib points), or takes longer than expected to do (ie trading system), then you all start complaining. to get a rough idea of what's planned, the todo list on the ftp server has my list of main things to do (not including areas) and i try to update that often. as for area design, there are some waiting for me to check them over and then they'll be released. |
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Title: Re: lets see how quick this gets locked :) Post by Zylia on 08/16/03 at 22:32:16 on 08/16/03 at 04:34:03, CPG wrote:
I never did fit in at those parties, being the non-drinker I am... Anyway.. I agree with Eternyte completely. If a staff is cloaked, clearly they are working on something or discussing something that they need full attention on. Like he said, it says: There are no staff online to help you at the moment. For example, right now JLH is running the triplex. Clearly he is cloaked because he has to run this event and being bothered with a trade would delay what he is doing. If a staff member is currently unoccupied, then they uncloak and are free for questions or assistance. Cloak is not an enhanced form of /ignore. ;) |
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Title: Re: lets see how quick this gets locked :) Post by Bean on 08/18/03 at 09:09:25 Heh, was my idea bad? :-/ |
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