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Title: Re-Lvl Post by -Gaddy- on 08/11/03 at 14:36:03 Ok, apperently hp was set to be increasing by greater ammounts...cause it seems that halfling rangers ought to be avging around 285hp now and other classes and races are getting higher hp and mana too, it seems like if the new crits are going to get better hp and mana people with old crits should get to re-lvl them. By this i do not mean reset and train again, i mean put them at lvl 1, but they keep the exp they had and then let them go re-click the lvling bar because old crits shouldnt get screwed over the way they seem to be. |
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Title: Re: Re-Lvl Post by Mephistroth on 08/11/03 at 14:37:28 I agree with you 100%, I think its unfair that new characters should have more hp than old characters, they should both be able to get the same. |
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Title: Re: Re-Lvl Post by -Gaddy- on 08/11/03 at 14:41:37 /lick mephistroth |
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Title: Re: Re-Lvl Post by Outsider on 08/11/03 at 14:43:33 Dont have anything to add just /nod Gaddy |
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Title: Re: Re-Lvl Post by Bill on 08/11/03 at 14:53:21 Good idea, i agree. But one small problem, what would happen to spells? For example a high level mage could go around pking lower levels with beam and also could get in level restricted areas. |
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Title: Re: Re-Lvl Post by Jurian on 08/11/03 at 14:54:16 just make it so you can choose to re-lvl or not cuz i don't want to re-lvl supreme :D his 283 hp is fine :D |
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Title: Re: Re-Lvl Post by Mephistroth on 08/11/03 at 15:35:22 Hmm, Maybe if your level 1 and you try to cast beam, it doesn't let you and says 'You cannot cast this spell untill you are level 25.' That would solve the problem :D |
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Title: Re: Re-Lvl Post by Astrona on 08/11/03 at 16:11:51 Lol..That'd be to funny..sittin in the meadows and a lvl 5 mage comes up..u look em over..and poof..they beam ur arse into a one click..I could hear the clan messages already..I'd be rollin..Anyways..that is really unfair.. |
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Title: Re: Re-Lvl Post by Mephistroth on 08/11/03 at 16:25:43 Uh.. whats unfair? The comment about low level mages using beam has already been solved... |
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Title: Re: Re-Lvl Post by -Gaddy- on 08/11/03 at 18:13:09 sitting here..kind of hoping jlh or pandilex suggests if they'd consider allowing this... |
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Title: Re: Re-Lvl Post by Outsider on 08/11/03 at 18:14:42 Just asked, if he would give us a 'No' or a 'Noted, and i heard Medora said no. |
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Title: Re: Re-Lvl Post by -Gaddy- on 08/11/03 at 18:58:18 medora isnt jlh or pandilex....she's got much influence on their decision im sure, but i know that other staffers agree with what we're saying...it is completly unfair to have new crits get 20 hp more than old ones.. |
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Title: Re: Re-Lvl Post by Outsider on 08/11/03 at 18:59:54 I know, i said Medora doesnt know anything, and she said i could kiss her.... well anyways i asked JLH but he didnt respond, i guess he doesnt like me :'( |
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Title: Re: Re-Lvl Post by -Gaddy- on 08/11/03 at 19:02:06 i dunno..i usually dont get to talk to them in game..but when i do it seems like JLH is cool and listens and stuff..maybe he will...i disagree with you though..medora knows plenty..she's very cool and lives in the same state as me :P |
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Title: Re: Re-Lvl Post by Mephistroth on 08/11/03 at 19:27:35 lol, something had better be done about this. If not then I strongly suggest not ever going P2P. If simple issues such as this can't be solved then I really don't know how you expect people to pay for this. |
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Title: Re: Re-Lvl Post by Astrona on 08/11/03 at 19:40:39 on 08/11/03 at 16:25:43, Mephistroth wrote:
The whole issue of the mages loosing out on hp and mana |
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Title: Re: Re-Lvl Post by KasumiFire on 08/11/03 at 20:40:28 http://www.nightmist-online.co.uk/cgi-bin/YaBB/YaBB.pl?board=Discussion;action=display;num=1059535670 Similar topic. |
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Title: Re: Re-Lvl Post by Mephistroth on 08/11/03 at 20:41:57 Also posted a while ago, so you can't expect people to know its there. Just stick with this one instead of bringing back old ones. |
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Title: Re: Re-Lvl Post by KasumiFire on 08/11/03 at 20:58:37 For people to see other's ideas and comments and such. |
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Title: Re: Re-Lvl Post by VampyreDarla on 08/11/03 at 23:14:20 Something should definitely be done about this. It's been around for quite awhile and so far I've heard nothing of whether it'll be fixed or not... Edit: Ok so i was wrong. :P |
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Title: Re: Re-Lvl Post by JLH on 08/11/03 at 23:33:46 i will discuss with pandilex about letting anyone who wants it re-level without losing xp/spells etc. also note, if you are a level 30 with 230m xp, you would not be entitled to get 250m xp, you would end up as level 29. (which could be advantageous to some of you under xp people) |
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Title: Re: Re-Lvl Post by Zylia on 08/12/03 at 00:28:08 Would this be a one time re-level? Or would you just level up again until you got the hp you prefered? I can see many people leveling all day until they get nice hp/mp. Maybe tack on a cost to it or something to discourage it? |
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Title: Re: Re-Lvl Post by JLH on 08/12/03 at 00:36:39 one time, lol |
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Title: Re: Re-Lvl Post by Zylia on 08/12/03 at 00:49:06 k good lol |
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Title: Re: Re-Lvl Post by Proteus on 08/12/03 at 02:39:49 I really like this idea also, it sucks to have alts trained before update that just simply have inferior hp compared to the new alts being trained. |
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Title: Re: Re-Lvl Post by Dan on 08/12/03 at 06:02:03 I just browsed over this subject briefly, but thought I'd add my 1 cent thought.(As if it's worth 2 cents) I still "think" (I haven't said it before), but we should be given what could be looked at as an extra level. Basically we keep everything as they are now, but we are allowed 1 last trip to that magical land where we only get the HP gain. (A single time deal) 1. We remain level 30 2. We are alloted only an HP gain 3. We don't have to go through the hastles or seeing our crits as a level 1, and going to all the leveling spots again and again. |
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Title: Re: Re-Lvl Post by Medora on 08/12/03 at 06:07:04 /t JLH If you are going to let crits relevel, which I assumed you werent because the discussion had been around the forum for awhile and you never replied *no reply usually means no in most cases*, you will need to write a program or something to do so. As I see it there is one of 2 ways to do this, reset everyone in the game to lvl 1 not messing with experience of course, or be on and have every single player paging you saying I want this this this and this crit releveled. Sounds like a whole lot of hassle to me. Im not saying that they Shouldnt have the option, Im just saying there needs to be an easier way on you to do so. Personally I dont care one way or the other on the topic myself. Question tho, will it only be available to level 30s, because what about all those crits that were trained to say between 20 and 25 and let go dorment until recently? Cant forget the baby crits ya know. Will this also be the same as before, where off the main tavern an all lvls training room will be added? /t Outsider I said nothing directly to you, I told a friend through a chat program to say my thoughts to you ;p. If you dont insult others in any way then you wont be talked mean to now will ya? I quote Cartman -Respect my Authority!- |
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Title: Re: Re-Lvl Post by -Gaddy- on 08/12/03 at 06:34:29 Ya..it'd definatly need to let all lvls re-lvl...what about equip? i heard if it is on you it wouldnt come off due to lvl, when Emerald dagger was a staff item people had them already and were equiped so they got to keep them..then andy had to get staff to change it so that it could be used by him...lol WooT! all of our archies would have to be gotten back up to arch...only 3-5 mill under on the ones that we'd actually be re-lvling...chase has hp that we like..as does cage...but i think it seems fair to have everyone re-lvl if that is the case..just reseting everything while keeping exp.../shrug..i dont really know..but there is definatly a problem if old crits have so much less mana and hp than crits now..such as how my dwarf cleric could only get 9s on mana up til lvl 24 then hp bug was done and now they practically always get 10s...but nothing will be done about that problem is what i heard /shrug..re-lvling makes perfect sense to me... p.s. ty for posting explaining whats up JLH. |
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Title: Re: Re-Lvl Post by Proteus on 08/12/03 at 07:51:01 If you reset all alts to lvl 1 but kept exp.. everyone would lose there clan.. and there equipment would all pop off.. what if your inventory was filled with mana.. where would the equip go.. and what would happen to all the clans. lol |
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Title: Re: Re-Lvl Post by Vodka on 08/12/03 at 08:26:37 Oh yeah, those are good points. Well, obviously there has to be some way to do it.. so, it's fair. ;/ |
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Title: Re: Re-Lvl Post by Jurian on 08/12/03 at 08:56:04 on 08/12/03 at 06:02:03, Dan wrote:
lol if i do this with my lvl 30 ranger i would end up with great hp lol since it's 283 now :D i think a re-lvl would be better :D |
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Title: Re: Re-Lvl Post by -Gaddy- on 08/12/03 at 08:56:36 why would equip have to pop off?..did you not read that one thing about the EDs that i had written about archie? remember when andy got his and stuff and it was staffer only..but players already had it on before then so it didnt come off them? Ya..chairmen and chairwomen would need to be done at a seperate time from all of their alts..or just turn off the lvl 10 thing before you do it?..surely that wouldnt be too bad..taking off lvl 10 and up only on clans.. |
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Title: Re: Re-Lvl Post by James on 08/12/03 at 10:39:30 ok so some one exsplane this to me in a basic out line plz |
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Title: Re: Re-Lvl Post by Vodka on 08/12/03 at 10:46:41 Uhm, People are thinking about the unfairness of older crits that were left out.. of the whole hp scenerio. We're trying to think of the best way possible to get that hp back.. so, re-lvling seems to be the option so far here.. as long as exp is kept.. and such. |
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Title: Re: Re-Lvl Post by James on 08/12/03 at 10:51:52 ok so I have 7,049,890 so if I re lvl then I go back to lvl 1 but keep all my exp but have to train up to the lvl I am now ? so by the time I train back to where I am now I would have doulbe the exp? |
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Title: Re: Re-Lvl Post by Outsider on 08/12/03 at 10:53:01 No u only have to click the lvl button seeing as u allready have the desired xp |
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Title: Re: Re-Lvl Post by James on 08/12/03 at 10:57:32 so I'm basicly re rolling my change on my hp nice but what about my clan? |
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Title: Re: Re-Lvl Post by Mephistroth on 08/12/03 at 10:58:58 Not sure on that, think someone mentioned removing the level limit, so you can still keep your clan, position and rank. |
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Title: Re: Re-Lvl Post by James on 08/12/03 at 11:04:35 well the only reason thats a problem for me is I only got the one chrt and atm no one else is on that can put me back and I don't hardly ever see staff on and when they are they don't help any 1 |
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Title: Re: Re-Lvl Post by Mephistroth on 08/12/03 at 11:06:36 Yeah, but you won't leave the clan, so you won't need to be invited back in... |
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Title: Re: Re-Lvl Post by James on 08/12/03 at 11:08:55 we shall have to see if I can ever catch JLH while he is on. |
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Title: Re: Re-Lvl Post by Outsider on 08/12/03 at 11:14:26 on 08/12/03 at 11:04:35, James wrote:
They dont help u. And JLH already posted here, so he will post again when he knows more, so no need to 'catch' him ingame |
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Title: Re: Re-Lvl Post by James on 08/12/03 at 11:16:10 lol well I was actuly talking about a pitculer indavidul but he's always bussy doing other things but I see him on the most it seems so I'm not realy worried about it zephie and others help out when there on and on those rare ocasions I catch JLH on he helps me out but back on topic yea! |
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Title: Re: Re-Lvl Post by JLH on 08/12/03 at 23:20:21 if this idea were to go ahead (no guarantee), it would be optional, and no clan/equip info would be lost. |
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Title: Re: Re-Lvl Post by -Gaddy- on 08/12/03 at 23:38:25 :D |
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Title: Re: Re-Lvl Post by Spongebob22 on 08/13/03 at 05:10:54 Well here is my thoughts on this. First, re-lvl is a great idea! Second, Why not create a room in Nightmist like south of Sleeping Fox inn where EVERYONE could go and lvl. This would solve the problem of the following example. You are lvl 29 with 250 Mill exp, heading to the next hut/guild to "re-lvl" to 30, and you get pk'd on the way, thus losing a crap load of exp that you now have to make up to lvl up to arch stat as you was before you decided to "re-lvl" Also this would be easy for staff to set up, set up a room, with the option of a one time click on a button that says "re-lvl" or something. Then it would auto lvl you again to your current lvl with whatever hp/mp gain you get. This would solve all problems of LVL requirments for items/clans, and it would be quick and easy, so that everyone is not running around finding all the lvl spots and hopeing not to get killed on the way to the next one. Just my three cents. |
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Title: Re: Re-Lvl Post by James on 08/13/03 at 05:12:26 nah u should have to click the button for each lvl and yea there should be a room |
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Title: Re: Re-Lvl Post by -Gaddy- on 08/13/03 at 12:44:52 i would think you'd still need to go to the training rooms...makes sense to say "saves time to just put one in 1 town that lets everyone lvl" but saving time doesnt always mean it should be put in..if you're too lazy to run to a guild to lvl...then maybe you should just remain without that lvl. |
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Title: Re: Re-Lvl Post by Artemis on 08/13/03 at 13:07:54 Question to JLH... What if this was optional, and you choose to re-level and get worse hp than you had before? Because i own two arch rangers with 280 and 281hp, but i could possibly get worse than that if i chose to re-level them this way.. would i get a choice to go back to my 280 and 281hp if re-leveling wasn't successfull or would i be screwed completely? I would think if you chose to re-level to get the new average amount of hp and gained worse than you had before then it defeats the whole purpose right? Cause if that happened it wouldn't be very fair :( |
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Title: Re: Re-Lvl Post by Outsider on 08/13/03 at 13:14:53 Thats like joining a lottery and if u dont win u'll get ur money back, lol, dont be greedy. If u dont need too re-lvl cuz u already have a fair amount of hp, then this wouldnt be for you, and then its up to u if u still wanne take the chance. |
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Title: Re: Re-Lvl Post by Artemis on 08/13/03 at 13:19:16 The question was to JLH, not you. Either way im not being greedy, I just want my rangers to get the same average everyone else has which i'm sure is as Gaddy said, about 285. Ive paid quite alot of gold trying to keep up with all the changes lately, and this one big change really hurt alot of people who took the time to work up the gold to buy the nicer stated crits. Please do not reply to my posts outsider. I'll be waiting for a reply from the all-knowing JLH though. :) |
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Title: Re: Re-Lvl Post by Outsider on 08/13/03 at 13:24:44 on 08/13/03 at 13:19:16, Artemis wrote:
Then dont post, im sure u know how to get a hold of him. The Forum isnt ment for pming. |
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Title: Re: Re-Lvl Post by GoLdEnStAr on 08/13/03 at 13:25:32 its the risk you take... |
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Title: Re: Re-Lvl Post by Artemis on 08/13/03 at 13:28:53 It's not supposed to be a risk it's supposed to be a FAIR chance to gain the hp that you didnt get to gain since the new total was 'upped'. Christ use your brains. Don't bother replying I want to know my answer from someone whos opinion really counts. |
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Title: Re: Re-Lvl Post by Argus on 08/13/03 at 13:38:14 Fair? Your playing the wrong game. It's all a gamble, taking chances getting lucky, if you are afraid to get worst hp than don't re-level. Obviously if you can get worst hp than your hp isnt that bad. The re-level is for those who have the absolutely worst hp because of the developement of the game. |
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Title: Re: Re-Lvl Post by Artemis on 08/13/03 at 13:50:22 Uhm. No, really?...... your kidding. Like the ranger i have with 272 hp at arch.. as of now in my opinion 270's is no different from 280 or 281 if the normal average is 285 and up. Excuse me if i used my higher hp rangers as the example, but i don't see much of a difference.... |
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Title: Re: Re-Lvl Post by Insomnia on 08/13/03 at 14:17:45 The point with re-leveling is to give old crits the same chance to get high HP as the new ones. Once the old ones has been re-leveled, they've gotten exactly the same chance to end up with good HP as the new ones. If you end up with worse HP that you had before, tough luck, but you've still had the same fair chance as everyone else. "I would think if you chose to re-level to get the new average amount of hp and gained worse than you had before then it defeats the whole purpose right?" Wrong, the purpose with this is NOT to give old crits higher HP - it's to give old crits, as stated above, the possibility to level their crits with the same HP system as the new ones got. |
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Title: Re: Re-Lvl Post by Bill on 08/13/03 at 15:12:16 HP is always random, theres a chance you'll get better and also worse, it's your decision whether you want to risk it or not, and i don't think people should be able to go back to original HP if they do worse, thats like saying you got crap HP on a level up, and wanting to do it again because you didn't do well, and you can't. |
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Title: Re: Re-Lvl Post by Artemis on 08/13/03 at 15:20:36 Well like i told you on aim Gus it's still not the same because the new crits have also had the chance to be reset untill the owners were happy with the hp.. as for back when my rangers and most of the older ones were leveled resetting was not an option... So either way you get screwed.. either don't re-level and stick with your unfair hp, or take the risk of re-leveling and getting even worse hp.... Maybe all the crits should be reset to 1 without exp loss and players shouldn't get a choice. That's the only way it seems fair at all. It just really stinks when your one of those players who played hard and worked for the 'nice' crits you own, just for the total to be upped and all that work is now a waste. What about the ones who never got fixed after the hp bug? Ones that are missing 15-20hp on top of the extra 20 hp they would have gotten if they were leveled after max hp was raised. Or the ones who got hp taken away instead of getting hp added when the bug was 'fixed'. So now they are 10 behind from the bug, then almost 10 more behind because something else went wrong, and another 20 behind again just because they were leveled mostly before the total was upped. There's just too much going on here... Not trying to really complain because obviously no one cares, but there has got to be a way to make things better instead of the only option being "take the risk or keep what you have".. I just dont understand why the max hp was upped, why didnt JLH just stick to repairing the bug and repairing the crits who were effected and leaving it at that? I think i remember JLH mentioning something about it taking too long to fix everyone who was hurt by the loss.. but isn't this in tern just going to take even longer? Anyway, i know i'm longwinded trying to get my point across.. if you don't really play then you wouldn't understand what the big deal is anywho. |
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Title: Re: Re-Lvl Post by Zephie on 08/13/03 at 16:51:29 I agree with players having the option to re-level, personally I would be losing from this, but I really don't care..I reset a 6 stat level 30 simply because it had 266hp. If you chose to re-level and end up with worse hp than you did before, then well..that's just life, chances are you won't because it is impossible to gain 7's now (on halflings in your case Artemis) You will most likely end up with more hp than you did to begin with. As for the training rooms, I think setting up one training room to level for each class would be fine, no need to have to run all over the place (remember, you wouldnt have a healer to help you get to the desert...etc etc) |
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Title: Re: Re-Lvl Post by Artemis on 08/13/03 at 17:13:04 I still think your nuts for resetting it.. but like i said it is a 6 stat .. it will probably benefit you in the end. I hope your right about the hp thing.. god knows i have lots and lots that were completely ruined during the bug and even more ruined with the new hp lol.. and yeah just temporary local guilds would be fine.. i see no reason in having to go run 876465345 alts everywhere all over again when you've already had to do it once :p I think we're all in favor of being able to reset our crits who lucked out.. even i have some that i'd still like to re-level even if it's a risk because the hps are already so bad i don't think they could get any worse :-/ Have JLH and Pan made a decision on this yet? |
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Title: Re: Re-Lvl Post by JLH on 08/13/03 at 17:44:29 if added, the option would be a command, /reset springs to mind, that would set your stats to level 1 and put you in boars tusk, you get the joy of running around the map like a newbie again to level back up to whatever level :) |
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Title: Re: Re-Lvl Post by GoLdEnStAr on 08/13/03 at 17:56:58 with the good ol' vines outside the desert guilds... *cough* |
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Title: Re: Re-Lvl Post by Artemis on 08/13/03 at 18:09:10 Oh well that works for me. I have a mage who i wouldn't be resetting anywho so running through the desert wouldn't be a problem ;D Edit: i was wondering if maybe this would be a permanant command from now on.. i dont see how you would do it otherwise unless you warned people a day ahead and only ran it for 24 hours.. but some people are on vacation, so maybe just leave it permanant and only 1 reset per character allowed? atleast i'd hope so anyway...lol :P |
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Title: Re: Re-Lvl Post by James on 08/13/03 at 18:23:09 I tryed going to JH yesterday but the path was blocked off perhaps its changed since the mas I have was made? |
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Title: Re: Re-Lvl Post by Artemis on 08/13/03 at 19:49:30 i dont know of a correct map that exists, so if you don't know your way around.. good luck. |
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Title: Re: Re-Lvl Post by Lady_Maha on 08/13/03 at 21:28:59 Vampyre resently mapped out the desert, and I think it's pretty accurate. YOu should check hers maps out. |
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Title: Re: Re-Lvl Post by James on 08/13/03 at 21:59:33 yea pretty much all thats changed the only diff is that long stright path in to JH is a bit more zig zaged u have to go east and south more to get to JH |
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Title: Re: Re-Lvl Post by Spongebob22 on 08/14/03 at 02:38:00 on 08/13/03 at 17:44:29, JLH wrote:
I can see this causing major problems, whe you get killed you lose exp, so what happens when you reset and have a exact total of 250mill, you head to your guilds to lvl, at lvl 19 you pk'd heading to the lvl 20 guild, now you have 248mill exp, thus, not enough to get to arch. And if you block them from getting killed then people will just sit and kill crap knowing they cant die.. Hmmm....what to do, what to do... |
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Title: Re: Re-Lvl Post by Artemis on 08/14/03 at 02:48:56 That's not a big deal if you don't loiter out of town and just hurry and level your crit back up. I can only see it being a problem if your a new guy who has no clue where your going.. edit: if you have an arch and get pked running through the sewers.. you need alot more help than just getting better hps lol |
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Title: Re: Re-Lvl Post by Stotic on 08/14/03 at 04:59:21 I have a lot of chars to reset. I'll let Kev do it... ;D |
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Title: Re: Re-Lvl Post by -Gaddy- on 08/14/03 at 15:23:47 IF it were put in im sure there are plenty of people that are under exp far enough to where i kind of doubt they'd bother to re-lvl..lots of mages rangers and zekrers alteast would go back to master for a while..all of ours are around 3 mill under except cage....chase is like..10.. |
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Title: Re: Re-Lvl Post by Jurian on 08/14/03 at 16:10:47 on 08/14/03 at 15:23:47, -Gaddy- wrote:
only crit i ahve that's under exp is boner and i got him int a trade lol. all my other crits have atleast 250 exp and most are at 300+ mil your own bad die'n soo much :D /reset the way jlh said will be fine. how big is the chance that you get pk'ed just when you did /reset? it might take a total of 5 mins to get from 1 to arch again. not much of a prob if you ask me :D |
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Title: Re: Re-Lvl Post by Mephistroth on 08/14/03 at 16:15:32 Yeah. Also, if your worried about not having enough exp to reach arch again, just train. Isn't really that hard. |
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Title: Re: Re-Lvl Post by Outsider on 08/14/03 at 16:16:59 Someone might put some Vines in teh forest and anyone on theire way too arilin, gets his xp dropped due to getting pked. And there will be a lot less archies running around after that. |
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Title: Re: Re-Lvl Post by Mephistroth on 08/14/03 at 16:18:04 Then you have to be careful. Nothing new is it? People can still pk you with vines even if you are arch. If you can't deal with it don't reset your character. Simple Really. |
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Title: Re: Re-Lvl Post by Outsider on 08/14/03 at 16:28:29 The point is i can sit there with 2 archies and kill every lvl 20 who is going to Arilin to lvl, and pretty easy too. And if they had 250 mill xp they would lose a lot for such a easy kill. |
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Title: Re: Re-Lvl Post by Sausage on 08/14/03 at 16:30:45 You could do that right now anyway........ Edit: If they get pk'd and they loose the exp, then they should have to train to regain it. I don't see where the debate is here really.... Sewers are always a nice alternative aswell. |
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Title: Re: Re-Lvl Post by Mephistroth on 08/14/03 at 16:33:22 Yeah, people are just getting lazy and they want the game to be nice and easy. |
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Title: Re: Re-Lvl Post by James on 08/14/03 at 22:45:40 well realy to make it as simple as posable it should just be in boris tusk inn you type /reset server zaps you to a room with the buttons: Rest: wich takes u to lvl 1 then LVL: Wich Can Take U All The Way Up To LVL 30 If You Have The Exp this would be easyer for the players don't know about the codding |
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Title: Re: Re-Lvl Post by -Gaddy- on 08/15/03 at 23:16:43 I thought i'd already said that i thought the idea made sense the way jlh said it (with low exp not letting you lvl and having to move to the guilds). There is a sewer path to Arilin by the way. Can we plz do this? Within a week or so would any decision have been made? |
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Title: Re: Re-Lvl Post by Proteus on 08/15/03 at 23:18:59 Another thing I just thought of, if you reset your alt to re-lvl, everyone who does this will also gain access to free renames and sex changes ect.. Should probably turn that part of the site off that day/week so ppl dont take advantage of this. |
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Title: Re: Re-Lvl Post by -Gaddy- on 08/16/03 at 02:02:01 /sf proteus shhh...archie! |
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Title: Re: Re-Lvl Post by Artemis on 08/16/03 at 07:12:22 Ah so what about the free stuff from the site.. i know i won't be using it anyway and its really no big gain lol.. and yeah if your worried about being pked on the way to arilin then take the sewers, it's what they're there for. |
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Title: Re: Re-Lvl Post by SullenUrchin on 08/16/03 at 07:48:05 on 08/16/03 at 07:12:22, Artemis wrote:
well hey it don't matter what way u go if u happen to go durning a time sum 1 decides to throw up grasping vines and pk this can happen in the swers our above ground as far as I know thats the only problem I could see other wise I can run quicker then ppl can click my name I take off like a fart in the wind |
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Title: Re: Re-Lvl Post by Sausage on 08/16/03 at 07:54:32 Then you get pk'd. You still have exp to keep leveling up. If it puts you under exp then you level up to level 29 (or the next lowest level) then you train a little, get the exp back up and level up. Quit your pregnant doging. If you get pk'd then deal with it. |
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Title: Re: Re-Lvl Post by Roc on 08/16/03 at 09:29:52 So there is hope for Salem:) I`m ready. Beam me up Scottie. |
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Title: Re: Re-Lvl Post by Artemis on 08/16/03 at 11:48:09 on 08/16/03 at 07:48:05, SullenUrchin wrote:
Grasping Vines can only be casted in forests.. |
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Title: Re: Re-Lvl Post by Medora on 08/16/03 at 11:55:40 I personally think that if the reset is an option that an all classes and level training room should be put off of boars tusk in for a day or two. That would save alot of hassle and all. I'll admit it, Im just to lazy to run my 15+ crits all over the map. |
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Title: Re: Re-Lvl Post by Jurian on 08/16/03 at 11:59:56 on 08/16/03 at 11:55:40, Medora wrote:
if i'm willing to run all over the map then you ppl shouldn't complain :D |
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Title: Re: Re-Lvl Post by Artemis on 08/16/03 at 12:03:36 Yeah ..another thing is that regular people who are training will take advantage of the close guilds, even if they haven't reset their crit for this purpose and that's not fair :-/ So you'll just have to run around.. its Ok Kim, i'll take ya if your too lazy :P |
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Title: Re: Re-Lvl Post by Eternyte on 08/16/03 at 13:03:19 Or you could set it like what happened pre-reset. Everyone was given the exp back to their full level. Everyones local was a 'special street' dedicated for the re-leveling. After you had gone all the way north from this street and has re-leveled to your exp's level. You then had no option but to go Down or North again. Then you were automatically in Nightmist Tavern, which was then made into a local. I think it would be a good idea, however I am undecided whether it should be left at current exp, or returned to the level if under exp. I think left at current level would be more appropriate, as if someone wants to lose their exp. They should have to gain it back. I also think this re-leveling should be 'All or None'. Either all the crits have to be re-leveled, or none of them should be. |
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Title: Re: Re-Lvl Post by Artemis on 08/16/03 at 13:28:26 Hey, it's not JLH's fault if half your arches are below on exp... I know 982537 other arches who have 500mil+ exp and i don't think they would like losing it just to benefit the dodo's who like to suicide. Also if they thought it was right to reset our crits without us having a choice they would have done it already. The point here is to give us a choice because it is a risk.. also not everyone was affected by the bug or the current total hp, so there's no need to force the reset. JLH is only giving us this option because he's nice, he doesn't even have to. He didn't have to fix anything at all, i'd just be happy with the way things are now and be more happy if he decides to give us /reset as an option.. |
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Title: Re: Re-Lvl Post by Sausage Needs Boots of Time on 08/16/03 at 13:31:50 There are only 10 crits with 500+mil exp. :-* I think if crits are under exp they should not be able to regain that level. I think they should first have to regain the experience. I like Eternytes idea but I think it should be an option. Not a everyone or noone type of thing. |
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Title: Re: Re-Lvl Post by -Gaddy- on 08/17/03 at 08:24:56 i just want it to be done, running to guilds or not, below exp or not, command or street, i dont really care any of those options...i just dont want my crits having 30 hp less than new crits. |
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Title: Re: Re-Lvl Post by Zephie on 08/17/03 at 13:39:49 Exactly Gaddy. So, what's the word JLH?? Are we doing it or not? |
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Title: Re: Re-Lvl Post by Jurian on 08/17/03 at 13:41:35 lsat time i spoke to jlh he said he was in favour of it but depended on pandi :D |
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Title: Re: Re-Lvl Post by Medora on 08/17/03 at 14:11:26 Im not to lazy my dear Jess! Ok, yes I am. Ill do it if I have to. I'd like to know whats going on with this? Any word? |
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Title: Re: Re-Lvl Post by Epic on 08/17/03 at 14:40:41 I just skimmed through this topic really fast and just have to say....It should be all or none i think... ??? |
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Title: Re: Re-Lvl Post by Sausage on 08/17/03 at 14:49:02 Are you talking all or no levels? or all or no people re-leveling? |
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Title: Re: Re-Lvl Post by JLH on 08/17/03 at 16:14:17 i hate repeating myself, it would be optional |
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Title: Re: Re-Lvl Post by Sausage on 08/17/03 at 16:21:25 on 08/17/03 at 14:40:41, Epic wrote:
That's what I was referring to. |
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Title: Re: Re-Lvl Post by -Gaddy- on 08/19/03 at 06:21:55 How much time would we have to decide what crits to re-click for, like..would the command /reset work for a certain period of time or anything like that? |
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Title: Re: Re-Lvl Post by Artemis on 08/19/03 at 11:21:31 i think it would probably be a perm command but only be available to do once per character.. otherwise people who haven't been here to see this would miss their chance. Sounds about right no? |
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Title: Re: Re-Lvl Post by Roc on 08/19/03 at 15:20:03 * stands inside the Basic Training Area with his finger on the clicker. We ready yet? |
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Title: Re: Re-Lvl Post by -Gaddy- on 08/20/03 at 04:15:48 * does like Roc... |
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Title: Re: Re-Lvl Post by Insomnia on 08/22/03 at 02:53:42 Feel like telling us what will happen..? :) |
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Title: Re: Re-Lvl Post by -Gaddy- on 08/24/03 at 03:37:46 can jlh or pandi plz plz give an update on if they think they'll do this or how soon it could be done if so? |
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Title: Re: Re-Lvl Post by Eiements on 08/25/03 at 05:02:11 great idea i love it sounds good and stuff yay! |
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Title: Re: Re-Lvl Post by Mephistroth on 09/03/03 at 22:28:57 Sorry for bringing this up, but its easier than creating my own. Will this be happening, and if so when? |
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Title: Re: Re-Lvl Post by Pete on 09/05/03 at 14:59:08 * is patiently watching the boards, awaiting a response. |
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