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(Message started by: Lappa on 08/06/03 at 05:05:08)
Title: new clan ranking system
Post by Lappa on 08/06/03 at 05:05:08
rank clans on something less than wealth, put a lil more weight into the lvls, strength, and pks:death ratios......

clans buy rooms and they jump ranks... a lil wierd seeing IMO Life After Death is ranked high with 38 people but bc they got 28 rooms, being ranked 9 or so means ur 9 th best, and easily, that clan isnt 9th best....

maybe some feedback, adding to the idea, or completely bashing the idea, whatever u guys feel necesary... its just an observation i made...
Title: Re: new clan ranking system
Post by Aidon on 08/06/03 at 05:31:04
Strange you would post this after saying DA will pass TR b/c of new money, or maybe that isnt working out so well, so a new system is needed?
Title: Re: new clan ranking system
Post by Lappa on 08/06/03 at 05:33:03
again, i have nothing to do with DA, i dont care bout it, i just mean for clans that reather be strong than rich, i.e. creme de la creme, and i dont see draco honoris sitting #2 if they fixed that, and im sure top 10 would shuffle quite a bit and make a lil more excitement
Title: Re: new clan ranking system
Post by Epic on 08/06/03 at 05:50:11
Anyhow how bout some other feedback....

Yeh the ranking system needs to be changed both with clans and personal rankings...not sure what should be involved or how it should be modified but it needs to be.
Title: Re: new clan ranking system
Post by Stotic on 08/06/03 at 06:31:52
On a system that used to be based solely on room count it is fine.
Title: Re: new clan ranking system
Post by Lappa on 08/06/03 at 07:09:43
/t stotic ur just worried TR isnt #1 str wise, but wealth they take it away.... let others comment on it
Title: Re: new clan ranking system
Post by Stotic on 08/06/03 at 07:14:53
Oh yea I forgot...::waves TR flag::  ::)   The strongest are the richest.
Title: Re: new clan ranking system
Post by Ice_Cold on 08/06/03 at 07:27:12
i liek the way it is, some clans are nopk clans i.e. DRACO, and the old Midnight Thorns, just because you dont pk, doesnt mean your weak, i think its as close to perfect as it can get right now
Title: Re: new clan ranking system
Post by Lappa on 08/06/03 at 07:54:09
where have u been??  no clan is anti pk no matter what they say,   draco honoris pks plenty... so does midnight thorns... i can even name people if u want but im not gettin into it, but u also reminded me -  add boss kills to rank - would put a touch for those who claim to not pk to get score...

and stotic i said let people post... if it does happen to go that way, ok, but i think clans that dont shove gold into the clan house but rather use the gold to better themselves- end up being way stronger than many clans ahead of them, as for what ur trying to say, most of us in the big clans are rich, only thing is, we'd rather not buy rooms for the house, but instead either save towards a goal to better ourselves (cobalt or something requiring mass gold) --- for example, with ease i can name 10 people with 2 mil plus in creme, yet 17 rooms... just bc u have rooms in ur house, dont make u powerful, so consider more things into the rank, such as whats listed above... would make things more exciting with the fluctuation of rank more  
Title: Re: new clan ranking system
Post by James on 08/06/03 at 11:43:27
Well honistly clans should not be ranked number 1 becuse they have 100 rooms I don't have any personal vandeta aginst TR but will all the rooms they have no other clan will ever remove them from the number 1 spot so long they have all those rooms but yea it should be based on

Class Ranking+
Monsters Killed+
Experience+
Number Of Members+

something along those lines but gold and clan houses shouldn't have any thing to do with a clan ranking if having the power equals the money then you should agree adding the power and not the gold you should come out the same correct?
Title: Re: new clan ranking system
Post by Mephistroth on 08/06/03 at 11:47:29
Gold and the amount of rooms you have should effect the clan ranking.. thats the only decent reason I can think of to actually have them. There not really that useful.

I think both clan and personal rankings should be based on more than gold though, quest/boss items should be worth more than gold.
Title: Re: new clan ranking system
Post by alone on 08/06/03 at 11:52:40
As it happens. Draco is none PK to people who are either: In an allied clan, or in a neutral clan.

Concerning Enemies: We can attack them at our own free will, when and where we see fit. Also can attack any person who attacks us, unless an ally, at which point it should be taken up with the Founders.

I decided a while ago, that i'd only attack someone, if they've chosen to attack me. At which point i personally, will kill the characters that attack me, no more.

If anyone is found to be attacking any persons without reason, they're dealt with accordingly.

Mistakes do happen ;)


EDIT: Sorry for going off-topic :-[
Title: Re: new clan ranking system
Post by Insomnia on 08/06/03 at 16:34:46
I see no problems with having the currecnt clan rankin system, but if you despreately feel the need to have it changed; make up a new system that would work better and post. To me it seems that JLH has got alot more important things to fix than a already nicely working system.
Title: Re: new clan ranking system
Post by Epic on 08/06/03 at 16:49:07
Ofcourse theres something wrong with the way it is now..

Exp..
Monster kills..
Class ranking...
Number of members/lvl of members..
Clan rooms..
Gold..

Should all matter alittle to come up with the total ranking...not clan rooms being 90% of it
Title: Re: new clan ranking system
Post by PureMourning on 08/06/03 at 17:06:03
If clan rooms did equal 0 points, TR would still be first.

Also, about Life After Death, look at their members, the clan has been around for a long time, they have worked hard for their clan house.

I think it's fine.
Title: Re: new clan ranking system
Post by Despair on 08/06/03 at 17:06:39
lol does anyone know how the current system actually works?

and if so is there actually anything wrong with it?
Title: Re: new clan ranking system
Post by Jurian on 08/06/03 at 17:13:28
ok i didn't read all replies here but hmm.

a clan could spent the money they spent (or spend?) on their clanhouse on buy'n crits and items too.

if you buy 1 room for 1 mil you could also buy yourself an arch or something.
Title: Re: new clan ranking system
Post by Zylia on 08/06/03 at 17:27:07

on 08/06/03 at 17:06:03, PureMourning wrote:
If clan rooms did equal 0 points, TR would still be first.

I think we all knew that. The post wasn't aimed at TR. Why does everyone always assume that a discussion of rank is aimed at TR? How about for the purposes of this post, TR is left out of the discussion. You realize there are in fact other clans that are quite powerful in the top 10. Lets just use those as examples and leave TR out of it, as a discussion on clans always attempts to either demean TR or make them sound greedy. For this discussion, lets just leave them out.

What the point of this is, that some clans that are in the high ranks aren't necessarily powerful. They are being held up due to their large number of rooms and it doesn't make sense that they are still in the top 10.

I think Lappa has an excellent point. At one point, the clan house doesn't really need many rooms. Not everyone is keen on using vaults with all the theft occuring, and why do you need a 10 room arena? All he is saying is that rather than forcing gold into the clan house to maintain a certain rank, why don't the members themselves concentrate on bettering themselves. I think that a clan could have a tiny clan house and still be very powerful. It doesn't make sense that only because they have a bigger house they are more powerful.

Off-Topic: IMO, personal rank shouldn't have alot to do with gold. If you gave a journeyman a lot of gold they would be ranked high. Tell me how a journeyman is ranked higher than several archmasters? lol
Title: Re: new clan ranking system
Post by deSade on 08/06/03 at 17:48:03
The GÂÚÑT£€T £€G€ÑЧ, not ranked, consists of 8 members and 3 rooms:

It's certainly not bothering me!  ::)  ;D
Title: Re: new clan ranking system
Post by darkness on 08/07/03 at 02:31:59
if there is a change, i think this makes sense...

rooms:.......................25%
amount of members:..30%
member lvls:..............25%
boss kills:..................20%

thats just a rough sketch, and i dont know exactly what else should be counted into it, thats just some of the stuff i saw mention in the other posts. but seems to make more sense then what it is now.
Title: Re: new clan ranking system
Post by Jurian on 08/07/03 at 08:22:21
lol my captain wylsen kills would be great for clan ranking then :D (still at 107 in total) :D


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