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(Message started by: CKY on 07/29/03 at 15:32:21)

Title: Low Lvls at bosses
Post by CKY on 07/29/03 at 15:32:21

I don't know about you guys but I think boss squares should take out that 10 lvl thing. I had a low lvl ranger with hands come to the mayor. Fine and dandy, newbs don't bother me if they get the drop from killing it. The thing that bothers me is when they just sit there, and wait til it dies and hopes for this to happen.

You rapidly fired at a Mayor Tvarti from your Enchanted Bow for 84 points of damage. Killing it.
You got 602 gold pieces.
I am not the one you should have feared...
A Mayor Tvarti dropped a Museum Key.
Milath picked up a Museum Key.
Milath left the game.

Yes, I had a full inventory. No I do not care to hear you laugh because I got jacked. It happens. But the fact that he wouldn't even be there if there wasn't that little rule makes it even more crappy.

So again, the suggestion being that the level 10 nopk rule be lifted at bosses and mini-bosses because they can do stuff like that.

Title: Re: Low Lvls at bosses
Post by Mephistroth on 07/29/03 at 15:34:59

Then you get people killing low levels just so they can't get the drop, even if there fighting to get it fairly. I don't agree with your suggestion, I admit it may be a problem but what you've suggested would cause more problems than it would solve.

Title: Re: Low Lvls at bosses
Post by BRabbit on 07/29/03 at 15:37:19

i agree wit ryan, low lvls to that alot at boss squares, they just sit there and dont move or nothing, have the time its so the boss dont spawn, its dumb but what can ya do ::)

Title: Re: Low Lvls at bosses
Post by Artemis on 07/29/03 at 15:37:48

I definitely agree with you on that one, but this rule still won't help places like the Mansion where only thieves can go in.. I believe Oracle and I tried to solve a similar problem like low levels sitting on the square to keep bosses from spawning, but we never did find a way around it that everyone could agree to :-/

Edit: even if this rule was implimented it would not stop a pacifist from snatching the drop when your inventory is full

Title: Re: Low Lvls at bosses
Post by AlliedAssault on 07/29/03 at 15:38:30

Maybe if it is possible after the boss is killed once the item hits the ground the person who killed it had 30 seconds to pick it up. Then others would be allowed to take a stab at getting it.

Title: Re: Low Lvls at bosses
Post by CKY on 07/29/03 at 15:38:33

Then something else needs to be done. Maybe a thing that puts it in an alts inventory?

Sort of like the /invite alts thing, if your crit has a full inventory it checks your alts for a free spot, and if they are all full, it drops it on the ground?

I don't know, I'm just frustrated about little kids like that getting a free 40k.

Title: Re: Low Lvls at bosses
Post by Issy on 07/29/03 at 15:38:33

I actually think its a good idea, especially when people put level ones on the square to stop spawn.

on 07/29/03 at 15:34:59, Mephistroth wrote:

How would this cause more harm than good? I see no problem with it.

Isaiah.

Title: Re: Low Lvls at bosses
Post by Mephistroth on 07/29/03 at 15:44:09

It would be a problem because it then stops low levels who fight fairly to get the kill. I don't think high levels have the right over bosses, just because someones pissed off about them losing 40k. I agree with that part though, it needs to be changed but I don't think that letting them pk n00bs is a valid solution.

Edit: CKYs new idea seems good, as does Allieds.

Title: Re: Low Lvls at bosses
Post by Mephistroth on 07/29/03 at 15:45:54

And kill innocent people that are just trying to play the game? Fair...

Title: Re: Low Lvls at bosses
Post by CKY on 07/29/03 at 15:48:51

I think he (might) means that make it no exp loss. I don't think the whole square should be, but if it were possible to somehow code it in that if you killed a lvl 19 (say your lvl 30) that lvl 19 would get a no xp loss, but just go back to local. But if you killed a lvl 20, they lose exp.

Mainly that's not what you're saying though, you want all low lvls to have a chance at a boss, well they do, but just because they're low lvl and not high does not mean that they should get an invicibility from others. We all had people kill us as newbs at bosses, why can't they?

Edit: Jimmy removed his post, so now you can just deal with my unuseful reference to a nonexistant reply. Take that yuppies.

Title: Re: Low Lvls at bosses
Post by Artemis on 07/29/03 at 15:51:43

on 07/29/03 at 15:38:33, CKY wrote:

Truthfully, I don't think JLH would go for the alt thing.. because in reality if you killed someone and it drops on the ground its fair game for anyone to pick up, and I don't think it would automaticly fall into your twin brother's hands if yours were full lol. Not to mention all the more work the server would have to do. I know plenty of times where I've been to a boss with rival clans and they killed the boss and the item dropped on the ground and I picked it up. They may have been able to kill me but they sure weren't fast enough. So not only is this a problem with low levels but its a problem everywhere.. maybe even one of those uncureable ones. Some things you just have to deal with I suppose.

I don't know if this would help much at all, but maybe certain boss squares should have level caps (i.e. 6-30 only), this way they can be killed. Doesn't help much If your in sarka with only level 27's+ and your level 10 is in nightmist i guess, but its the only thing I can think of :(

Title: Re: Low Lvls at bosses
Post by KasumiFire on 07/29/03 at 16:26:38

Easy solution: Give a pot or crystal to a crit that has free spaces. If you have none, then drop some. What's worth more, three pots or a museum key?

Title: Re: Low Lvls at bosses
Post by Artemis on 07/29/03 at 16:31:22

True..true. That's what I do ;D But sometimes you just don't think fast enough, and then the little guy gets it lol.

Title: Re: Low Lvls at bosses
Post by -Gaddy- on 07/29/03 at 23:04:52

Ya I think that it should also be made so that if you get a drop it stays in your inventory for the next 10 seconds, like, say you're a cleric at the DG and you get the kill and the halberd, then the other people there on high lvl rangers and such rape your crit and you drop the item..thats never any fun. I think items that you just got from drops and stuff should stick to you when you die within 10 seconds of getting the item it doesnt fall from your inventory...say like..it was just now handed to you basically...so if something was just given to you wouldnt you be more likly to keep it than something thats been sitting with you for a while..cause youd have this new thing in your hand...

Title: Re: Low Lvls at bosses
Post by CKY on 07/30/03 at 01:10:06

Them sound like words of experience right there Gaddy.

/whistle

::)

Title: Re: Low Lvls at bosses
Post by -Gaddy- on 07/30/03 at 10:16:52

lmao, if i want something in game changed cause of something crappy that happend to me, i think it should be alright since thats what you want also...i doubt either would be messed with in the slightest bit though cause it doesnt seem like most ideas are...and neither of them really seem like JLH would bother with them..