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Title: tired of flapping in the wind? Post by Kenny_McCormak on 05/18/03 at 05:52:47 ok back to clothes again there should be some clothes put into the game even if they dont give any armor but i am tired of being like the tom petty song FREE BALLIN (or is it falling i cant remember anyway) pants-Pants/20////this pair of pants offers no protection what so ever except for warmth/1 shirt-Shirt/20////this shirt offers no protection what so ever except for warmth/1 |
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Title: Re: tired of flapping in the wind? Post by Kazuya on 05/18/03 at 07:43:43 what are u talking about? ??? |
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Title: Re: tired of flapping in the wind? Post by Lady_Maha on 05/18/03 at 14:36:42 He is talking about the fact that people like my fighter look like some cheap BDSM flick, wearing all spiked armor while the bottom part keeps catching a draft, and my poor zerker is freezing not only her rear off...lol Edit: In case Pandilex yet again wants to state that berserkers were naked, as HIS history book teaches him, I would like to point our beforehand, that berserkers received their name from the CLOTHING they wore... made from bearskin (ber=bear, serkr=skin). |
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Title: Re: tired of flapping in the wind? Post by Deval on 05/19/03 at 02:56:08 I perhaps it was because they fought in a 'beserk' manner?... |
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Title: Re: tired of flapping in the wind? Post by Lady_Maha on 05/19/03 at 20:22:57 The term fighting in a berserk manner comes from their name, which, as stated above was given to them because of their clothing...lol. |
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Title: Re: tired of flapping in the wind? Post by King o Sausage on 05/19/03 at 23:32:57 I wonder if any Nightmist players get out of their house more then 1 time a day........? Note: This comment was made inlight of my boredomness (I'll bet you like that word.) ;D |
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Title: Re: tired of flapping in the wind? Post by Lady_Maha on 05/20/03 at 01:03:47 I can tell you in all honesty, I don't....lol Comes with being a stay home mom that works from home. The only time I leave the house is to buy groceries, chase after my dogs when they run off and sing karaoke on Wednesday nights. |
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Title: Re: tired of flapping in the wind? Post by King o Sausage on 05/20/03 at 01:55:44 Lady_Maha, don't get me wrong. Your awesome and I love ya. I was just merely commenting on your extensive knowledge of what Pandilex would like to call "History".. I love everyone!! |
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Title: Re: tired of flapping in the wind? Post by Old School Freaks on 05/20/03 at 01:59:19 on 05/19/03 at 23:32:57, King o Sausage wrote:
I did once but I tried to berserk the mailman and got arrested for indecent exsposure cause I was neeked. Now I just check the mail and goto work. So I get out twice a day:) |
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Title: Re: tired of flapping in the wind? Post by King o Sausage on 05/20/03 at 02:04:30 We have many humorous people in this world I call Nightmist. |
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Title: Re: tired of flapping in the wind? Post by Pandilex on 05/21/03 at 18:43:20 on 05/18/03 at 14:36:42, Lady_Maha wrote:
Sorry, but it's a well known fact that 'bear' is 'bjorn' and hence is a very common name in the parts of the world where berserkers originated. Ber means Bare (naked). |
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Title: Re: tired of flapping in the wind? Post by Lady_Maha on 05/21/03 at 18:49:49 Where do you keep getting that info Pandilex? Just show me ONE source where it says that, because it's untrue. I can show you at least 10 sources to prove where the word berserker derives from, and it is ber (old norse for bear) and serkr (old norse for coat/skin). Berserkers were given their name BECAUSE of the bearskin they wore for clothes. Stating I am wrong constantly when I have proof and you don't doesn't make you look very professional. I know my history, took it as a major a long long time ago. |
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Title: Re: tired of flapping in the wind? Post by Pandilex on 05/22/03 at 00:15:03 Yet you're doing the same? Further research indicates multiple possible theories, yours and mine included. However, I was taught what I have said above. |
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Title: Re: tired of flapping in the wind? Post by Bean on 05/22/03 at 01:19:21 She's shown a bucketload more proof than you have... Although it is your right to make the zerkers...... NAKEY!!!!!!!!! |
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Title: Re: tired of flapping in the wind? Post by Lady_Maha on 05/22/03 at 01:19:43 I am not doing the same... I am showing you the proof. One of the links provided by Insomnia points directly to a definition and explanation of the word berserker and it's origins in Webster's dictionary, which is commonly known to contain researched and proven info. I have yet to see a source of the same reliability as Webster's that proves your point. |
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Title: Re: tired of flapping in the wind? Post by Lady_Maha on 05/22/03 at 01:27:15 on 05/20/03 at 01:55:44, King o Sausage wrote:
No offense taken, since it is the truth that I barely leave the house...lol Some people consider me a source of extensive knowledge for a lot of useless info, could have something to do with me easily memorizing things and fighting boredom by studying more and more stuff. Helped a lot during my school years though. :) |
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Title: Re: tired of flapping in the wind? Post by Pandilex on 05/22/03 at 01:32:48 berserker Berserk \Ber"serk\, Berserker \Ber"serk*er\, n. [Icel. berserkr.] 1. (Scand. Myth.) One of a class of legendary heroes, who fought frenzied by intoxicating liquors, and naked, regardless of wounds. --Longfellow. ??? |
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Title: Re: tired of flapping in the wind? Post by Drac on 05/22/03 at 01:35:26 geez pandi.. give the dog a bone, let em eat cake, and just give the friggin zerkers some clothes! dont just try to argue it cuz u dont feel like makin bearskins as items! :D even if they dont do anything, there are so many bears in Nightmist, it would only make sense lol. Why wouldnt a zerker wear bearskins, but instead just to opt to run around in the buff? i know i would skin a bear if i was nakie! |
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Title: Re: tired of flapping in the wind? Post by Dwaerkyn on 05/22/03 at 01:40:00 It makes sense that they have so much hitpoints if they do not have clothes, this would cause, eventually, to an adaptation making skin rough and the need for clothes destroyed. |
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Title: Re: tired of flapping in the wind? Post by Dwaerkyn on 05/22/03 at 01:41:30 Just a thought, since Berserkers have no clothes, they would be less resistant to disease and poison. |
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Title: Re: tired of flapping in the wind? Post by Pandilex on 05/22/03 at 01:42:50 I am choosing to make them similar to my opinion of what the berserkers mentioned in history were. Because of their induced 'rage' when it wears off they are left much weaker, and this is represented by the loss of hit points when using various attacks. |
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Title: Re: tired of flapping in the wind? Post by Lady_Maha on 05/22/03 at 02:03:37 on 05/22/03 at 01:32:48, Pandilex wrote:
Longfellow, Henry Wadsworth. Me., 1807-1882, the poet??? Or is there another Longfellow I should know about? |
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Title: Re: tired of flapping in the wind? Post by Pandilex on 05/22/03 at 02:32:58 Well, I got that from dictionary.com |
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Title: Re: tired of flapping in the wind? Post by InsaneNinjaPhreak on 05/22/03 at 02:38:24 ber·serk [ br súrk, br zúrk ] adjective aggressive or angry: extremely aggressive or angry go berserk [Early 19th century. From Old Norse berserk wild warrior, probably from the stem of bjorn bear + serkr shirt, because either they wore bearskins or were fierce like bears.] and I got this from encarta.com |
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Title: Re: tired of flapping in the wind? Post by Lady_Maha on 05/22/03 at 02:52:52 One entry found for berserk. Main Entry: 1ber·serk Pronunciation: b&(r)-'s&rk, "b&r-, -'z&rk; 'b&r-" Variant(s): or ber·serk·er /-'s&r-k&r, -'z&r-; 'b&r-"/ Function: noun Etymology: Old Norse berserkr, from bjorn bear + serkr shirt Date: 1818 1 : an ancient Scandinavian warrior frenzied in battle and held to be invulnerable 2 : one whose actions are recklessly defiant (found at www.webster.com) Norwegian berserk , Old Norse beserkr (“bearskin”) in premedieval and medieval Norse and Germanic history and folklore, a member of unruly warrior gangs that worshipped Odin , the supreme Norse deity, and attached themselves to royal and noble courts as bodyguards and shock troops. The berserkers' savagery in battle and their animal-skin attire contributed to the development of the werewolf legend in Europe. It… (found at www.britannica.com) Two of the most referred to encyclopedias.... |
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Title: Re: tired of flapping in the wind? Post by Sera on 05/22/03 at 03:09:14 Guys, I highly doubt that any of this is going to be changed. The definition of them is dependent upon where you get it from. No one is wrong. Instead of complaining about the origins of the word and if they are going to wear clothes or not, why not work on training them, or one of your other crits. Oh well, at least when they kill ya, they will be "flappin in he wind" with all their glory. :) |
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Title: Re: tired of flapping in the wind? Post by Lady_Maha on 05/22/03 at 03:21:01 The only reason I am posting all the info is merely because Pandilex said my info was incorrect. Yes, I would like to see some sort of basic clothing for my crits, but my world is not going to end if Pandilex decides to keep them naked ingame, or make them wear thongs and hot pink high heels. ;) |
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Title: Re: tired of flapping in the wind? Post by Sera on 05/22/03 at 03:21:59 berserk - wild - from Berserker, a Norse warrier, who went into battle 'baer-serk', which meant 'bare of mail' (chain mail armour). WORD HISTORY: When we say that we are going berserk, we may not realize how extreme a state this might be. Our adjective comes from the noun berserker, or berserk, which is from the Old Norse word berserkr, "a wild warrior or champion." Such warriors wore hides of bears, which explains the probable origins of berserkr as a compound of ·bera, "bear," and serkr, "shirt, coat." These berserkers became f, foaming at the mouth, and biting the edges of their iron shields. Berserker is first recorded in English in the early 19th century, long after these wild warriors ceased to exist. If you asked the average person what they thought a Viking looked like, they would probably tell you that they looked like brutal savages dressed in animal furs and not too much else. Actually that aspect refers to a small group of Viking warriors known as Berserkers or Berserks. The word berserk is disputed in its definition, some say it means bare-shirt, referring to how some Berserkers went without shirts to battle. Others say it could mean Bear-shirt, referring to the fact that they wore bear or wolf skins into battle. Berserkers are also closely linked to the Norse god Odhinn, the name Odhinn closely resembles the Norse word “odur” meaning rage and fury also it is linked to the Gothic word “wods” or possessed. As you can see, it's all a matter of where you get your information from. Everyone is right. In Nightmist we have the Bare Skin berserkers rather than the Bear Skin Berserkers. |
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Title: Re: tired of flapping in the wind? Post by Deval on 05/22/03 at 04:59:54 Your all forgetting something. Pandilex is stubborn to a fault. Drop it, nothing is going to happen, and he's not likely to admit that, heaven forbid, he may be wrong. |
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Title: Re: tired of flapping in the wind? Post by Insomnia on 05/22/03 at 06:56:42 After searching at dictionary.com I could read this; "[Old Norse berserkr : *bera, feminine of björn, bear; see bher-2 in Indo-European Roots + serkr, shirt.]". But oh well, I guess I'll drop it aswell then. Noone is perfect anyways (except for Deval). :-* |
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