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(Message started by: Dragonedge on 04/20/03 at 22:42:17)
Title: Staff all from TR
Post by Dragonedge on 04/20/03 at 22:42:17
How bout pandilex stops playing favorites and get some staff from somewhere besides TR, there are old players that have enough experience in the game and making pic's and stuff like that but pandilex seems to like choosing from tr, as his last 4 picks were from that clan, and all but 2 staff are in TR, coincidence i think not.
Title: Re: Staff all from TR
Post by Stotic on 04/20/03 at 22:49:25
I give up on providing the reasoning.  Maybe it should be provided in the FAQ.
Title: Re: Staff all from TR
Post by Android 20 on 04/20/03 at 22:51:09

on 04/20/03 at 22:42:17, Dragonedge wrote:
How bout pandilex stops playing favorites and get some staff from somewhere besides TR, there are old players that have enough experience in the game and making pic's and stuff like that but pandilex seems to like choosing from tr, as his last 4 picks were from that clan, and all but 2 staff are in TR, coincidence i think not.



Jealous?
Title: Re: Staff all from TR
Post by Dragonedge on 04/20/03 at 23:14:14
i accually am kinda jelous lol, they have it all and i have nothing  :'( . By the way android_20     did you play before the reset and if so i would like your aim name i think i know you
Title: Re: Staff all from TR
Post by Zylia on 04/20/03 at 23:35:09
Explain how they 'have it all'? Being a staff is glorified alot more than most would think.. Tell me exactly what you think the advantages of being staff are? Is it the time that is taken away from your playing of the game? Or the people complaining on the forum about how your corrupt? Or is it the vulgar emails you receive, including a few choice pictures of obscene gestures? Tell me which makes being staff 'having it all' ?
Title: Re: Staff all from TR
Post by Dragonedge on 04/21/03 at 00:00:55
staff doenst have it all
they have much work,
im saying TR has it all
because they have
all of the staff but 2
Jlh and oracle, i think
they should have 1 staf per clan
Title: Re: Staff all from TR
Post by Zylia on 04/21/03 at 00:23:20
You missed my point. The reason most staff are picked from TR is because members of TR know the game and know it well. They mainly base it on ability, grammar, and how the player relates to people. I was hired outside of TR, as was Kharybdis. You can't be saying that all staff are being hired out of TR. Just because the last few were doesn't mean that they aren't reading the applications of people outside of TR..
Title: Re: Staff all from TR
Post by Melfice on 04/21/03 at 00:34:30
Isn't anything at all going to be done about the staff/tr situation.  Even if it's not the most amazingly distressing problem a lot of people are complaining about it and most of the staff are just saying deal with it which in my opinioin isn't helping anyone because nothing is being done.  Maybe just a few staff could spread out a bit to shut some people up.  If tr are as good as the game as you all brag about i'm sure sacrificing a few odd staff members won't effect your status?

Just a suggestion....  :D
Title: Re: Staff all from TR
Post by Zephie on 04/21/03 at 01:33:19
They'd complain about our mortal crits then, why should we have to move our mortals to another clan just to satisfy the whiney little babies of NM?


Drop it already, it's old.
Title: Re: Staff all from TR
Post by King o Sausage on 04/21/03 at 01:45:42

on 04/21/03 at 01:33:19, Zephie wrote:
Drop it already, it's old.

Extremely.

Dragonedge, you alredy know I don't like you. But this is just such a stupid thread it's not even funny. Drop it.

TR isn't the number one clan for no reason. They have some of the best players in Nightmist. When you become one of the best players in Nightmist you realize what could be fixed or added to help the game. If your really good you do something about it.  When you contribute a whole lot to the game that is when you get chosen to be staff (from my point of view). Plus this is JLH and Pandilex's game. They can do whatever they want to. It's a free game. You don't like it then shut up and/or leave. I for one consider myself to be lucky to be playing this game for free and to enjoy the amount of fairness and commitment that both of those men have put into this game.

Dragonedge, please just drop this stupid, tired, old subject.
Title: Re: Staff all from TR
Post by Lady_Maha on 04/21/03 at 01:52:51
I so agree, it's not just old, it's ancient. As I said before, I don't mind staff being mostly TR, on the contrary, make them all staff I say, that way they are too busy working to make the game better for everyone to pk me.  ;)

Jeesh, as much as I'm defending them, one could start thinking I'm a member there....lol
Title: Re: Staff all from TR
Post by Dragonedge on 04/21/03 at 02:38:50
i dont think i'll drop it and i dont care if anyone likes me in the game, im not playing to win a popularity contest as you might know from the hate/enemy list most people have me on,    i agree that staff crits ONLY should move to a new clan  if TR is so good missing JUST staff crits wont matter, as for the clan TR being the best, they arent, they just got the jump on things, people want to join because it was most likely the first clan started, and further more if the whole game were to reset, all these people you consider newbs might top out the friends you consider god's
Title: Re: Staff all from TR
Post by Stotic on 04/21/03 at 02:52:18

on 04/21/03 at 02:38:50, Dragonedge wrote:
people want to join because it was most likely the first clan started

Foul ball into the upper deck
Title: Re: Staff all from TR
Post by Dragonedge on 04/21/03 at 03:01:15
i said most likely i didnt say thats the way it was :P
Title: Re: Staff all from TR
Post by King o Sausage on 04/21/03 at 04:32:14
We have totatly different opinions. I'm just going to leave it at that.
Title: Re: Staff all from TR
Post by newb on 04/21/03 at 04:44:18

on 04/21/03 at 00:23:20, Zylia wrote:
You missed my point. The reason most staff are picked from TR is because members of TR know the game and know it well. They mainly base it on ability, grammar, and how the player relates to people. I was hired outside of TR, as was Kharybdis. You can't be saying that all staff are being hired out of TR. Just because the last few were doesn't mean that they aren't reading the applications of people outside of TR..


There are plenty of players outside of this clan that know the game better than they do. Also, as I have said before, with the majority of staff members being in one clan, they are more likely to develop good relationships with these players and to see their talent more. So if you are not in this clan, then someone who is already has the upper hand. As far as glory goes, if you apply for staff you should know that your time on morts will be cut down, people won't like you and you will have to deal with it. Also, as far as clan ranking goes, it proves nothing except you have alot of gold and/or members. Loveless was ranked #2 and the majority of it was newbies. Astral Warriors is now ranked #2 and look at them, hardly any high lvls.
Title: Re: Staff all from TR
Post by Bean on 04/21/03 at 05:13:26
Newb Are you posting because thats your honest to god opinion?
Title: Re: Staff all from TR
Post by newb on 04/21/03 at 05:14:51
Its not an opinion, I know it.

If you're going to insult me for what I said about the staff/player relations, think of it this way. You hang out with your friends and you know each other and its all fun and stuff. Then this new guy wants to come hang with you and you don't know him. This is a person that you will have to take a while to know. When you meet someone new, its not like you are best friends in five minutes. With the staff thing, I think they would rather hire someone they know and are comfortable with than someone they don't know.

Also, some staffers just have their staff crit in the clan. As far as I know, all of Havanor's alts are in OoE and Oracle's alts are in some other clan, BoD I think. The same was with Medora but she just recently put her alts in there.
Title: Re: Staff all from TR
Post by King o Sausage on 04/21/03 at 05:25:49
Oracle is in Astral Warriors.  ;D
Title: Re: Staff all from TR
Post by Norinth on 04/21/03 at 13:17:57
It is natural that staff are picked mostly from TR. Remember that in TR most players are quite experienced, mature and Pandilex knows people there. He knows if someone is or isn't trustworthy because he knows them since the early days. It's not because TR is his clan, but (even without wanting to) he knows them better and chooses the ones that deserve it. I am in Draco Honoris and (even though they are my clan enemies) I can see that. It's not favoritism.

Still, it is getting kinda old seeing this all the time.
Title: Re: Staff all from TR
Post by Tender_Foot on 04/21/03 at 13:59:44
i wouldnt say tr members are mature, because most of the ones ive ran into are preety immature and cant handle anything themselves without throwing a big hissy fit.

but also, there are those members who are mature, and are very expierenced and knowledgeable of the game, and definately deserve to be a staffer.

it would be nice to see people from elsewhere made staff...but im fine with tr also.

stop bringing the tr staffer thing, its stupid, its old, its annoying.
Title: Re: Staff all from TR
Post by Harky on 04/21/03 at 15:03:21
I still don't see why the staff crits are still in the clan despite all the stuff I see posted showing people that have problems with it.  Were all current staff to disband from their current clans and join one 'staff' clan, the only thing that would happen is it would give the jealous people less fuel for complaints.
Title: Re: Staff all from TR
Post by Stigmata on 04/21/03 at 15:24:07
But why should the staff crits disband from a clan when they've done nothing wrong.
Title: Re: Staff all from TR
Post by Dragonedge on 04/21/03 at 17:09:34
As for having experience in the game i have 4 years of it... i played before reset i play now and ill continue to play. i dont want staff because i dont want to be distracted from making my crits good and my clan, along with people thinking that staff make gold to buy stuff themselfs. Pandilex doesnt know me all that well and ive been playing 4 years... whats that say about how he favor's friends over experienced players. i know this subject is old and people get tired of defending it so they just give in and accept it, i think that if the staff WERE to make there own clan or just be clanless with the crits, it would make a lot of people less jelous because they cant get a staff in their clan. If staff were chose out of TR mayhaps the staffers would join other clans then the ones their in, which once again proves TR get's 95% of staff and staff picks.
Title: Re: Staff all from TR
Post by King o Sausage on 04/21/03 at 17:25:54
If staff where to have their staff crits in no clan, people would complain that their mortal crits where all in The Resistance. And dragonedge, you may have been playing for 4 years but you don't seem to have a substantial crit "army". You don't seem to have played the game strongly like most of the good players in Nightmist. And from what I've seen you have played for 4 years and contributed nothing to the game. People don't just get chosen for staff because they've played along time. You have to contribute to the game and help the game and Nightmist society as a whole. Not just play for along time...
Title: Re: Staff all from TR
Post by Cloaked Figure on 04/21/03 at 17:39:28
Heh, like all of the new staff contributed so much over their NM careers...  Seems to me the best contributors have left or been fired (or refuse to become staff).  Most of the action on the forums these days is bickering - the improvements section is as dry as it has ever been.
Title: Re: Staff all from TR
Post by Harky on 04/21/03 at 19:06:21
Wow, 4 years experience, awesome. I wonder how you played before late '00 considering the game didn't even exist.

Anyway, I know they haven't done anything wrong - but by disbanding from clans, like I originally said, it gives people less room to complain.  Here's a list of things people can/will say to combat this, and my answers for each of them.

tey shud nt hav 2 disbaand becuz being staf is hard and tey shud be able to talk to frends

Staff and friends/alts should not meet, and if they do it should be under the same circumstances as everyone else. If they really need to talk to a friend, they can do so through pages, friend chat, or using an instant messaging program.


wut aboUt wen ppl complane about them havin altz in clan

Alts are a different issue, if people openly complain about staff abuse in this fashion -and it's unfounded- they should be dealt with.  However staff and alts should be totally seperated anyway.. I honestly believe staff should keep themselves anonymous, and it's not difficult for all remaining staff(that actually play alts) to change the identity of their staff character.


y r u baking up <insert name here>

I'm not backing anyone up, I don't know anyone that's posting here in favor of what I propose. I'm actually posting my views instead of agreeing with a set group of friends, or trying to get at another group. I honestly have no ill feelings towards anyone in this game, despite (from what people tell me) the way I come across sometimes.


omgg u r so awsome and evrythng u alwayz say is tru,on time i disagred wit u bt then i realize im a moroon haha

I wouldn't respond to these, because they're so obviously true in every way I have no need.

edit because yabb blows.
Title: Re: Staff all from TR
Post by newb on 04/21/03 at 19:32:14
Good stuff Harky. Although the majority of that has been said before, perhaps now it will be considered coming from you, a respected player of the game.
Title: Re: Staff all from TR
Post by wonderful_nightmare on 04/21/03 at 20:51:02

on 04/21/03 at 19:32:14, newb wrote:
Good stuff Harky. Although the majority of that has been said before, perhaps now it will be considered coming from you, a respected player of the game.


wtf is harky?

and jsut stop whingin and start play'n nothing we can do about this. i'm not say'n it's all correct but it's a cruel world.

STOP COMPLAINING
Title: Re: Staff all from TR
Post by Dragonedge on 04/21/03 at 21:09:29
...your stupid wonderfull, or wonderfully stupid i havent figured out which yet. but harky was the guys name -_- as for the 4 years exp on game i exagerated -_- i thought you guys would see that?
Title: Re: Staff all from TR
Post by Stotic on 04/21/03 at 23:15:08

on 04/21/03 at 19:06:21, Harky wrote:
Wow, 4 years experience, awesome. I wonder how you played before late '00 considering the game didn't even exist.

d**n you got to it first.


Quote:
wtf is harky?

A former staff member.
Title: Re: Staff all from TR
Post by Deval on 04/22/03 at 03:36:35
Dragonedge, you officially take Creeds old position of the biggest idiot in Nightmist. Never have I met a fellow with less tact, intellect and/or ability to form coherent arguments.
Title: Re: Staff all from TR
Post by Dragonedge on 04/22/03 at 06:43:21
im accually just bored and this topic bothers everyone so i figured i would re-start it. if you want a valid arguement give me something to argue about not this garbage
Title: Re: Staff all from TR
Post by Lady_Maha on 04/23/03 at 01:00:10
Can someone PLEASE lock this topic now? It was called old, it was called ancient, and I think it's dead now... time for the funeral, people!

Thank you!
Title: Re: Staff all from TR
Post by Creed on 04/23/03 at 06:14:12

on 04/22/03 at 03:36:35, Deval wrote:
Dragonedge, you officially take Creeds old position of the biggest idiot in Nightmist. Never have I met a fellow with less tact, intellect and/or ability to form coherent arguments.


::)
Title: Re: Staff all from TR
Post by The man on 04/23/03 at 06:50:40
Your stupid and I am The Man. Shut up and obey me.
Title: Re: Staff all from TR
Post by Stotic on 04/23/03 at 08:03:19

on 04/23/03 at 06:14:12, Creed wrote:
::)

I think you would be quite glad.  heh
Title: Re: Staff all from TR
Post by Norinth on 04/23/03 at 15:15:15
Who is The Man? I think he's a new candidate for biggest idiot in Nightmist...
Title: Re: Staff all from TR
Post by The man on 04/23/03 at 17:40:37
If by "idiot" you mean "guy with the biggest wang", then vote The Man at your next local election!
Title: Re: Staff all from TR
Post by Currupted on 04/23/03 at 17:42:40
is "The Man" a fan of the Penny-Arcade?
Title: Re: Staff all from TR
Post by King o Sausage on 04/23/03 at 18:08:55

on 04/23/03 at 17:42:40, Currupted wrote:
Penny-Arcade

What exactly is this Penny-Arcade??
Title: Re: Staff all from TR
Post by Eternyte on 04/23/03 at 18:23:39
10 staff members.
JLH and Pandilex = Game creators, didnt gain staff in any clan.
Oracle = I believe he was made staff when he was in Notorious Beanie Masters (correct me if i'm wrong).
Krillick = Gained staff pre-reset, whilst in Legion of the Night.
Medora = Gained staff pre-reset while in Theatre de Vampires.
Havanor = Gained staff while in Order of Ecstacy (correct me if i'm wrong).
Zephie = Gained staff while in The Resistance.
Stotic = Gained staff while in The Resistance.
Aidon = Gained staff while in The Resistance. However gained favour while developing areas in Draco Honoris.
Valeska = Gained staff while in The Resistance.

All the other staff that have passed through the game, none were gained staff while in The Resistance.

To be honest The Resistance is a fairly new clan, it hasnt been around for that long. However due to the members and the friendship that is within the clan it has progressed fast.
As you can see 3 from 10 staff members were made staff while in TR.

If the staff members did all join another clan with their staff crits. People would still whine when people found out who they were. Why should XXXX be staff, they always pk me.

Jealousy is the main reason why most people complain. They feel that because they dont help the game in any way, maybe post 1 or 2 suggestions that qualifies them for staff. The truth of the matter is most people would abuse the powers they are given.

If you really want to aid the game do like Jen, Justin, Mike and Jess have done, and aid other staff members in the production of new areas.

For the sheer fact of people moaning that they arent staff shows the lack of maturity, and a major reason why you should never become a staff member.
Also when making suggestions etc. dont use ideas from other games, or use someone elses ideas without giving them credit. Keep up to date with JLH's todo list so you know things are being done.

Worst of all DONT post idiotic sujective topics on the forum which telegraph your personality. Like topcs about staff, if you dont like something email JLH or Pandilex. Also players, dont make topics about players abusing them.

Point being if you dont like the staff on the game, or players on the game, or even the way the game is run. There is no binding agreement for you to play. Just leave!
Title: Re: Staff all from TR
Post by Stotic on 04/23/03 at 19:10:31
I can only wish that this post can put a stop to those useless posts.  Well done Andy.
Title: Re: Staff all from TR
Post by Currupted on 04/23/03 at 20:18:54
Penny-Arcade is a web comic and earlier on in the comic the one guy said wang alot, www.penny-arcade.com if your interested
Title: Re: Staff all from TR
Post by Norinth on 04/23/03 at 20:37:54
The problem isn't about other staff that passed Nightmist. It's about the present. That's why people are whinning about this. And actually, the members of the Resistance (or at least the elite) were BoD. BoD was a great clan in the past, and started quite soon. I don't think it is relevant that staff are from this or that clan, they are staff not because of their clan, but because of his/her achievements and other factors.
Title: Re: Staff all from TR
Post by wonderful_nightmare on 04/23/03 at 20:51:24

on 04/23/03 at 20:37:54, Norinth wrote:
The problem isn't about other staff that passed Nightmist. It's about the present. That's why people are whinning about this. And actually, the members of the Resistance (or at least the elite) were BoD. BoD was a great clan in the past, and started quite soon. I don't think it is relevant that staff are from this or that clan, they are staff not because of their clan, but because of his/her achievements and other factors.


that's what we "the not whiners know" but the whiners don't realise this and only notice alot of TR at the end of eternytes post and complain about that.

look let me explain this to you ppl.

Most "elite, old, pre-reset player, the ones that everybody know and know the game inside out, the respected players" (these are all diff names for the same ppl)  are the ones that would make good staff.

You can't disagree with me on that one. Now have a look around in the game and try to find these players. You can look everywhere but you'll come to the conclusion that 90% of them is in TR.

Conclusion: the chance that a new staff member comes from TR = 90%

now i hate allmost all TR as much as anyone of you and i complained about it too. Specially about Jen (sowwy for that one) but the last few weeks i just noticed she makes a good staffer and so do the other TR members.

So pandilex just chose good ppl to be staff and they happened to be TR since 90% of the ppl that would make good staff are in that clan according to the story i wrote above.

STOP COMPLAINING AND START LOOKING AT THE GOOD THINGS STAFF DO.
Title: Re: Staff all from TR
Post by King o Sausage on 04/23/03 at 20:56:28

on 04/23/03 at 20:51:24, wonderful_nightmare wrote:
STOP COMPLAINING AND START LOOKING AT THE GOOD THINGS STAFF DOES.

Stop complaining, and start looking at the good things staff DO. Not does.  ;)

But seriously this topic should be dropped and locked.
Title: Re: Staff all from TR
Post by wonderful_nightmare on 04/23/03 at 20:57:59
hmm i was in doubt about that one but edited now :D

i thought there were more staffers so i figured it would be does :D
Title: Re: Staff all from TR
Post by Selene on 04/23/03 at 21:09:37
The only thing I can't stand is when people think we're all jealous because we might insinuate the wrong things or give our opinions. I'm speaking for myself.. hopefully for the last time.. I'M NOT JEALOUS of anyone on this game. There's no reason to be. Everyone is a good player in some way.. no one is better than anyone else. Some may have other/more items than other people.. wow, never know when these people could catch up to you. Personality wise.. that's a whole different thing.

You people need to pull the tampons out of your butts.. just play the game and be content that these staffers are trying to HELP you out. Shut up and quit complaining. Thanx. :)
Title: Re: Staff all from TR
Post by Lady_Maha on 04/23/03 at 21:55:18

on 04/23/03 at 21:09:37, Selene wrote:
You people need to pull the tampons out of your butts..


rofl.... I never heard that one before, but I LOVE it!

Aside from that, I think us staff supporters are winning, not a lot of anti-TR-staffers on this thread anymore, so it's high time to lock it, before it starts again....lol
Title: Re: Staff all from TR
Post by Melfice on 04/23/03 at 23:20:12
I totally agree plzzzzzz lock this thread and all the other useless i hate staff and tr posts.  I'm not a great fan of tr but omg if i have to read another post saying "i think tr shouldn't be able to....." or nething else like that i'll cry.

....what you think i'm joking? i'm really going to cry  :'(
Title: Re: Staff all from TR
Post by The man on 04/24/03 at 01:26:23
I think of it in a couple of ways-
1. It's not that Staff only gets picked form TR, it's that all the people that have had some significant input in the game are in TR.
2. It's good almost X4 people than most clans do so it's natural that a lot of Staff would come from there.
Title: Re: Staff all from TR
Post by Selene on 04/24/03 at 01:35:23
Yeah, but there are more experienced people out there.. not just from TR... but, I guess they overlook it.. or maybe no one is just THAT good.. the staffers I know.. I have been playing longer then some.. and yet they get staff over the senority people who might help out the game even more.
Title: Re: Staff all from TR
Post by Harky on 04/24/03 at 13:42:29
I'm just going to comment on a few posts.


on 04/23/03 at 20:51:24, wonderful_nightmare wrote:
Most "elite, old, pre-reset player, the ones that everybody know and know the game inside out, the respected players" (these are all diff names for the same ppl)  are the ones that would make good staff.

Wrong, I'm sorry but experience isn't everything. Newer people exist out there that would make ten times a better staff member than anyone pre-reset would.. think of all the pre-reset players that still play, then think of how many would make suitable staff.


on 04/23/03 at 18:23:39, Eternyte wrote:
If the staff members did all join another clan with their staff crits. People would still whine when people found out who they were. Why should XXXX be staff, they always pk me.

I covered this in my last post on this thread, they should keep their alts secret in any case.

I stand by everything I said in my last post, as noone has said anything to debunk it. It isn't 'jealousy', I have nothing to be jealous of - I even posted these views back when I was on staff. And just to be clear, I'm not against TR like the guy that made this thread, I'm just giving a few suggestions towards general staff in clans - if someone prefers I'll make another thread leaving 'TR' out of it.
Title: Re: Staff all from TR
Post by Defcon on 04/24/03 at 16:13:42
easy way to fix it staff charecters should not even be able to join a clan then the sad lil ppl of nm cant pregnant dog at it being bios to the one clan then no body would know what clan there alts were in
Title: Re: Staff all from TR
Post by Eternyte on 04/24/03 at 17:49:50
Harky I agree staff should be anonymous.
On the point of not having staff crit in TR and having them in a separate clan it would happen like this...
"XXXX is our new staff member, they are no in any clan"
There main alts belong to TR "omg...the only way to become staff, is to be in TR"

It will happen all the time. The only person post-reset that kept his alts remotely hidden was you Harky, which I admire.
If JLH decided to make all staff anonymous he would have to start with a new staff team.

I do agree with the points you have raised though.
Title: Re: Staff all from TR
Post by Norinth on 04/24/03 at 18:00:16
Staff could not possibly be annonymous... Nightmist isn't just a game, it's a place where you meet people. We all got friends here, and a few of them would even find out who you were without you telling them anything. And if one person knows, soon everybody knows. I do not agree with that (staff becoming annonymous).
Title: Re: Staff all from TR
Post by Dragonedge on 04/24/03 at 19:34:29
im done arguing my points, im right your wrong im ending it there
Title: Re: Staff all from TR
Post by Norinth on 04/24/03 at 19:58:51
I'm happy not because you gave up, but because the TR thing seems to have ended. People need to work more and complain less (and no I do not want to be disrespectful to the people that said the opposite).
Title: Re: Staff all from TR
Post by Stotic on 04/24/03 at 21:11:21
::Rumor Mill:: I heard the beanies have a bunny that tells them when all the bosses respawn.
Title: Re: Staff all from TR
Post by Norinth on 04/24/03 at 22:02:12
:o Really? I'm gonna kidnap that bunny  >:(. Ohhh yes I am!
Title: Re: Staff all from TR
Post by Norinth on 04/24/03 at 22:03:46
And if he resists my kidnapping attempt I'm gonna say: " >:( Bunny, you are a baaad bunny." And I'm gonna give him Castor Oil. Ohhh Yes I am!
Title: Re: Staff all from TR
Post by The Joker on 04/25/03 at 00:12:00
**** making gay ass topics like this, yeh theres favortism..of course there is its obvious..and the people that are on the recieving side are going to be like "o nuh uh..your just jelous blah blah" well eat a turnip...i dont give a nuts anymore..all of you can eat me ..uhm anyways yeh theres no reason to post topics like this..it gets nothin done(nothing will be done)and it just starts arguments and gay nuts like that....

~Epic~
Title: Re: Staff all from TR
Post by Lady_Maha on 04/25/03 at 02:48:43
If there is favoritism, then why did even Zephie 'the big cheater  ::)' herself compliment other n00b clans, and even approve of certain people joining those clans? Am I being favored by the biased Zephie, or maybe mistaken for one of her clannies? Oh, I forgot, I send her an enourmous check every month to boost our clan rank so her mortals can pk us.

Jeesh folks, lock the thread now, before this starts all over again, because I am tired of accusations with no proof.

~Lady_Maha wonders what the world is coming to, when she, one of the people who are out to stand up against TR ingame, defends them on the forum over and over again. Isn't it ironic?~
Title: Re: Staff all from TR
Post by The Joker on 04/25/03 at 05:50:08
With no proof? theres tons of proof i have some saved text that i ported 3 times and it was erased 3 times.....dont matter *shrug* i was just sayin

~Epic~
Title: Re: Staff all from TR
Post by Zephie on 04/25/03 at 06:10:46
about me Epic?
Title: Re: Staff all from TR
Post by Dan on 04/25/03 at 06:52:14
This is getting old, but I do believe the main thing to thier complaining is the fact it doesn't look "Kosher" to them. I mean if staff would put themselves into others shoes for a moment and look at it from this prospective, you would have to admit it doesn't look good.
Jealousy isn't always why someone will complain about this. Don't get me wrong here, I could care less what clan a staffer is in, but with a growing server obviously there are new users. These users will be joining whatever clans and doing whatever they do, and players would tend to look at "favortism" etc... etc... it will always be an on-going debate.

If you want to be jealous that your not in thier shoes, and have that "staff crit", then sit back and think of the hassle you would be going through from threads like this having to defend yourself over what clan you joined/came from. Such a waste of time.
Title: Re: Staff all from TR
Post by InsaneNinjaPhreak on 04/25/03 at 07:16:09
YOU'LL ALL THINK DIFFERENTLY WHEN BRAIN TAKES OVER THE WORLD!!! BWUAHAHAHAA ~scuries off into the night~
Title: Re: Staff all from TR
Post by wonderful_nightmare on 04/25/03 at 08:45:57
let me quote this one guy again :D

"we (the players) do not have a silver bullet, but we do not have to fear the werewolf (staff)"

my point is, we can't do anything about the current staff situation and i'm pretty sure all staff are qualified for the job so we shouldn't think there is one hughe plot going on to make all tr members staff or something.

NOW KILL THE d**n THREAD :D
Title: Re: Staff all from TR
Post by Astrona on 04/25/03 at 21:21:24
I don't like TR for many reasons, but some of them are ok. I'm not on here to flame the clan though. Actually I'm on to support them on this one. Staff members are not chosen on a biased opinion. It's based on applicants and experience. Along with temperment. I know a lot of very experienced players that have a horrible temper. That doesn't work with staff. Also, if you haven't noticed. The Resistance is like Archy city! Most of the players in The Resistance have played the game for a long time and know the ropes. So sure most of the Staffys may have came from The Resistance, but you can't forget that that clan has a lot of high standards and does include many of the better players of the game. And either way, not ALL staffy are from The Resistance, so you can't say that they are hiring on a biased opinion or else all staff members would be from The Resistance. Also JLH is not a Resistance member(head of the game) and Oracle isn't either. If the game was so TR happy JLH would be in the clan as well. Guys please quit whining and finding other excuses to blame your non-acceptance for staff on. Spend your time learning the game better and changing your tempermant and improving your knowledge of the game. You really think the staff want whiners on their team? Anways there's my two cents on this board. Save it if you'd like..toss it away if you want..      ~Trisha*Astrona~
Title: Re: Staff all from TR
Post by JLH on 04/25/03 at 21:24:08
/join tr
lol
Title: Re: Staff all from TR
Post by Astrona on 04/25/03 at 21:25:31
Lol! Omg JLH don't give them all something else to get riled up about. Anways, you know you wanna join Astral ;D :P
Title: Re: Staff all from TR
Post by Android 20 on 04/26/03 at 01:46:53
Yeah im sure he would luuuv to join astral  ::). I can see the stupid newbish questions now.....lol.JLH would always have clan chat off ;)
Title: Re: Staff all from TR
Post by Dragonedge on 04/26/03 at 02:55:26
i have the experience and playing ability, im lazy ^_^,   if you dont belive me ask android he knows how good i was back then
Title: Re: Staff all from TR
Post by InsaneNinjaPhreak on 04/26/03 at 02:57:05
~throws something at dragon~ plz be quiet now...rer!
Title: Re: Staff all from TR
Post by Android 20 on 04/26/03 at 03:03:55

on 04/26/03 at 02:55:26, Dragonedge wrote:
i have the experience and playing ability, im lazy ^_^,   if you dont belive me ask android he knows how good i was back then



You were good...not great :p
Title: Re: Staff all from TR
Post by Dragonedge on 04/26/03 at 03:42:46
Great as realtive to you bud ^_^
Title: Re: Staff all from TR
Post by Eternyte on 04/26/03 at 07:06:46
No one really cares about pre-reset anymore. Granted people have discussions about it. Usually I have convo's with Ste about the good old days.

BUT...Stop dewlling in the past. You were an ok player in my opinion. Infact I cant remember ever having you pk me. Due to the fact you say you were brilliant pre-reset, and because the majority of players now dont know what happened pre-reset, you could lie about anything.

It's a shame that us slightly older players just remember exactly how you were and frankly. You were definately not what you crack yourself up to be.

The trully great players are known widely. They dont say how great they once were.
If your lazy thats your problem, dont expect things handed to you on a plate.
Although the babyish manner in which you conduct yourself really influences people impression of you.
Which by the way, isnt too good!
Title: Re: Staff all from TR
Post by Dragonedge on 04/26/03 at 17:32:36
how do i lock thread?    i dont wanna hear anymore of my stupid idea
Title: Re: Staff all from TR
Post by InsaneNinjaPhreak on 04/26/03 at 17:33:59
I think you just have to ask one of the moderators (JLH or Pandi)
Title: Re: Staff all from TR
Post by Melfice on 04/27/03 at 19:46:47
Ok that's it, you've done it now, i'm going to cry!

:'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(

Ha that'll teach u!.......


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