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(Message started by: Reese Stormrage on 03/31/03 at 20:08:26)
Title: Bosses
Post by Reese Stormrage on 03/31/03 at 20:08:26
Lone just arrived from the North.
Ensorcellment was assassinated by Lone.
Ensorcellment should never have crossed paths with Lone and his assassinate!
Ensorcellment dropped an Advanced Mana Crystal.
Ensorcellment dropped an Advanced Mana Crystal.
Ensorcellment dropped an Advanced Mana Crystal.
Ensorcellment fell to the floor, his injuries getting the better of him.
Lone left the game.

This occured one south from the gen, as many of us were waiting for it to spawn. Lone sat on the square, and ruined it, then was turnipy enough to kill one of us and log off (Which takes you to your local for those of you who don't know, and i think this should be changed.)

Some disciplinary actions should be taken here, people being allowed to sit on the square to ruin the bosses spawn is utter bullcrap. It is not fair to those of us who need the item the boss may drop. I haven't the words to explain how furious this makes me, and i'm sure most will agree, something SHOULD be done about this. Either the person repremanded, or maybe it should be changed so that you can't walk onto the square untill the boss has spawned. Something, anything, as long as this isn't allowed.
Title: Re: Bosses
Post by Fyxie on 03/31/03 at 20:14:01
This is quite ridiculous. Until it can be changed to were you cannot enter the square until the boss has spawned or something along those lines people caught doing this should be repremanded in some way. It's stupid and childish for them to act in this way, and as such they should be punished as a child would be.
Title: Re: Bosses
Post by Mammon on 03/31/03 at 20:14:23
I know!You killed my poor wittle level 22 druid  :'(. HOW COULD YOU!
Title: Re: Bosses
Post by Lyandor on 03/31/03 at 20:17:27
Yes, i'm sorry for seeing him on a normal square and pking him. I must admit though, I didn't actually know it took you back to local (Thought that would have been the demonic generals square, not next to) But why should I be punished for pking?

What do you mean by 'sitting on the square and ruining the spawn'? I came in, saw your party, went north to general, macro'd a random person and about 20 seconds later went south and killed him.

Edit: What I find quite funny, is that you all think it had something to do with the general, I went to pk in the barracks, saw a group of TR, pked one. I assumed it was because the general was spawning, but it didnt matter to me, easy pk :)
Title: Re: Bosses
Post by Necros on 03/31/03 at 20:20:44
Maybe other people need the boss item, not The Resistance for once for christs sake, and you just kill people who go, i know you don't log off but thats because you have a bunch of high level n00bs sat here with you.
Title: Re: Bosses
Post by Reese Stormrage on 03/31/03 at 20:21:20
Wether you meant it to happen or not this is still a big problem, and action should be taken to prevent it.
Title: Re: Bosses
Post by Lyandor on 03/31/03 at 20:22:15
Omfg, how is me pking someone a big problem? I've seen several people do hit and run attacks.
Title: Re: Bosses
Post by Reese Stormrage on 03/31/03 at 20:23:38
I'm talking about people sitting on the square to keep the boss from spawning....duh.
Title: Re: Bosses
Post by Lyandor on 03/31/03 at 20:25:26
Heh, why post about me killing then? It had nothing to do with the general.
Title: Re: Bosses
Post by wonderful_nightmare on 03/31/03 at 20:33:20
lmao this is bs :D ppl get killed often enough when they are at a boss (by tr most of the time) ppl accept this (kinda) so why would it be ok to kill osmeone at boss and not one square from boss?
Title: Re: Bosses
Post by Momba on 03/31/03 at 20:33:39
This staff update was added 12/24/2002:
8) '/grid del' now checks to see if anyone is logged off on the square and puts them in boars' if they are.
 Is it being used?
Title: Re: Bosses
Post by wonderful_nightmare on 03/31/03 at 20:35:22

on 03/31/03 at 20:33:39, Momba wrote:
This staff update was added 12/24/2002:
8) '/grid del' now checks to see if anyone is logged off on the square and puts them in boars' if they are.
 Is it being used?


what that got to do with someone logging near captain after a kill?
Title: Re: Bosses
Post by Azrael on 03/31/03 at 20:35:34
I think she was pointing out the fact that your a weak PKer, and you shouldn't be able to camp the bosses spawn point :|
Title: Re: Bosses
Post by Momba on 03/31/03 at 20:37:36

on 03/31/03 at 20:35:22, wonderful_nightmare wrote:
what that got to do with someone logging near captain after a kill?

Duh it has nothing to do with them logging "near" the captain. The thread is in regards to folks logging on boss squares preventing it from respawning. Do we always have to spell everything out for you....
Title: Re: Bosses
Post by wonderful_nightmare on 03/31/03 at 20:39:53

on 03/31/03 at 20:08:26, Reese Stormrage wrote:
This occured one south from the gen, as many of us were waiting for it to spawn.


yes when ppl say that and your gonna refer to ppl waiting on a boss square waiting for it to spawn when other ppl talk about beeing one square away from where boss spawns i would like you to spell it out :D
Title: Re: Bosses
Post by wonderful_nightmare on 03/31/03 at 20:40:30

on 03/31/03 at 20:35:34, Azrael wrote:
I think she was pointing out the fact that your a weak PKer, and you shouldn't be able to camp the bosses spawn point :|


and what the hell did i do? lone isn't even mine :D
Title: Re: Bosses
Post by Fyxie on 03/31/03 at 20:41:30

on 03/31/03 at 20:20:44, Necros wrote:
Maybe other people need the boss item, not The Resistance for once for christs sake, and you just kill people who go, i know you don't log off but thats because you have a bunch of high level n00bs sat here with you.


And just how are other people going to get said items if some idiot is sitting on the spawn square?
Title: Re: Bosses
Post by Momba on 03/31/03 at 20:43:07

on 03/31/03 at 20:39:53, wonderful_nightmare wrote:
yes when ppl say that and your gonna refer to ppl waiting on a boss square waiting for it to spawn when other ppl talk about beeing one square away from where boss spawns i would like you to spell it out :D


Can someone please point out that Jes very carefully pointed out that Lone arrived from the North...
And if ya know the area ya know he was on the square.
Title: Re: Bosses
Post by Necros on 03/31/03 at 20:43:31
BUT WE WEREN'T SITTING ON THE SPAWN SQUARE GOD DAMMIT!
Title: Re: Bosses
Post by Fyxie on 03/31/03 at 20:44:01

on 03/31/03 at 20:40:30, wonderful_nightmare wrote:
and what the hell did i do? lone isn't even mine :D


*blinks*

She wasn't talking to you.
Title: Re: Bosses
Post by newb on 03/31/03 at 20:44:05
From what I have heard, members of The Resistance have done this. It seems unfair to me that they can do it but not others if what I have heard is true. And as far as you "needing" the item, I think its more a matter of wanting the item. More people than you could be better off with the item.
Title: Re: Bosses
Post by Fyxie on 03/31/03 at 20:45:09

on 03/31/03 at 20:43:31, Necros wrote:
BUT WE WEREN'T SITTING ON THE SPAWN SQUARE GOD DAMMIT!


So north wasn't the spawn square? Since when?
Title: Re: Bosses
Post by wonderful_nightmare on 03/31/03 at 20:45:36
i hope not i'm way too nice :D
anyway if someone comes from a square a boss is normally that doesn't mean he was camping on a boss respawn square thingy.
Title: Re: Bosses
Post by Momba on 03/31/03 at 20:46:01

on 03/31/03 at 20:43:31, Necros wrote:
BUT WE WEREN'T SITTING ON THE SPAWN SQUARE GOD DAMMIT!


O.K....O.K. we believe ya, but this still is a problem that needs to be addressed:)
Title: Re: Bosses
Post by Lyandor on 03/31/03 at 20:46:59
God d**nit, READ MY POST. Then you would see that I explained why I was on the square for 20 seconds, and that I did NOT camp at the bosses spawn point.
Title: Re: Bosses
Post by wonderful_nightmare on 03/31/03 at 20:48:00

on 03/31/03 at 20:44:05, newb wrote:
From what I have heard, members of The Resistance have done this. It seems unfair to me that they can do it but not others if what I have heard is true. And as far as you "needing" the item, I think its more a matter of wanting the item. More people than you could be better off with the item.


lol well here i go again quoting george orwell :d

some animals are more equal then others :D
Title: Re: Bosses
Post by Lyandor on 03/31/03 at 20:48:06

on 03/31/03 at 20:45:09, Fyxie wrote:
So north wasn't the spawn square? Since when?


I guess Rich didn't read my post either.
Title: Re: Bosses
Post by Fyxie on 03/31/03 at 20:48:38

on 03/31/03 at 20:44:05, newb wrote:
From what I have heard, members of The Resistance have done this. It seems unfair to me that they can do it but not others if what I have heard is true. And as far as you "needing" the item, I think its more a matter of wanting the item. More people than you could be better off with the item.


And if they have, they should be reprimanded.

As to wether or not she needs it that isn't the point. the point is that no one that needs or wants one can have the chance of getting one if some idiot is sitting on the square.

Or is that too simple a concept?
Title: Re: Bosses
Post by Lyandor on 03/31/03 at 20:50:15

on 03/31/03 at 20:41:30, Fyxie wrote:
And just how are other people going to get said items if some idiot is sitting on the spawn square?


Just when are you stupid people going to learn to read? Or is that too simple a concept?

Fyxie, how many times do I have to tell you? I was on the square for 20 seconds, while I looked to see who I could one click and then macro'd them.
Title: Re: Bosses
Post by Necros on 03/31/03 at 20:50:58
To me - Its a game and i wouldn't get stressed over something as simple as that, Get a Cleric and Cast Vision Problem Solved!

Or is that too simple a concept?
Title: Re: Bosses
Post by Reese Stormrage on 03/31/03 at 20:51:17
Okay let me restate my point. People who sit on boss squares to keep it from spawning should be punished. Atm i'm not blaming ANYONE, but it still needs to be fixed. So please take your negativity somewhere else, and stop posting to get your count up. I will have to ask JLH about this, and if the nonsense on this thread continues i will simply ask to have it deleted and will take the matter elsewhere. So please, just stick to my point, or do not post at all.
Title: Re: Bosses
Post by CKY on 03/31/03 at 20:51:18
Anger management people.. anger management.
Title: Re: Bosses
Post by Fyxie on 03/31/03 at 20:51:33

on 03/31/03 at 20:50:15, Lyandor wrote:
Just when are you stupid people going to learn to read?

Fyxie, how many times do I have to tell you? I was on the square for 20 seconds, while I looked to see who I could one click and then macro'd them.


Thats fine. I'm simply stating this is a problem, has been a problem, and will continue to be a problem until something is done.
Title: Re: Bosses
Post by wonderful_nightmare on 03/31/03 at 20:51:51
look the thread doesn't say how long you were i the square and some ppl assumed you were camping on the square although every idiot knows that's a bad thing :D
Title: Re: Bosses
Post by Lyandor on 03/31/03 at 20:52:56
Heh, I don't need anger management classes :P But yeah, if you weren't blaming me for it then I apologize, what else am I supposed to think when Samus posts my pk?
Title: Re: Bosses
Post by Reese Stormrage on 03/31/03 at 20:54:52
I wasn't really trying to blame you, merly using you as an example. From the looks of the situation it is what happened, sorry if i falsly accused you. As i said before and will say again, people who actually do this need to be punished.
Title: Re: Bosses
Post by Fyxie on 03/31/03 at 20:55:05

on 03/31/03 at 20:50:58, Necros wrote:
To me - Its a game and i wouldn't get stressed over something as simple as that, Get a Cleric and Cast Vision Problem Solved!

Or is that too simple a concept?


Having a cleric cast vision and revealing someone on the spot still doesn't change the fact that the boss cannot spawn with someone sitting on the square. So you revealed them and you might pk them, but having to keep going to the square and casting vision could also make it so you stop the boss from spawning.
Title: Re: Bosses
Post by Necros on 03/31/03 at 20:55:06
I was about to post that Alex, He was pked off the boss square, so you post of that reason therefor we think you are moaning at us, you cannot blame us for that.
Title: Re: Bosses
Post by Necros on 03/31/03 at 20:56:33

on 03/31/03 at 20:55:05, Fyxie wrote:
Having a cleric cast vision and revealing someone on the spot still doesn't change the fact that the boss cannot spawn with someone sitting on the square. So you revealed them and you might pk them, but having to keep going to the square and casting vision could also make it so you stop the boss from spawning.



OK i agree with that and i also forgot, Which im sorry and is my fault. A level 3 thief could be there covert.

Sorry.
Title: Re: Bosses
Post by Reese Stormrage on 03/31/03 at 20:57:14
Main reason why i showed him pking the druid and logging off is because the square south of general is set to put you at your local- Which means someone can bring a whole army of people, kill us, and log. Which isn't fair. Would be best if only the general's square had this setting.
Title: Re: Bosses
Post by Lyandor on 03/31/03 at 21:01:01
Ok thats fair, but I didnt actually know it did that lol, otherwise I wouldn't have waited 15 minutes to log him on ;D

Some time ago someone suggested that it takes 30 seconds or so for your character to actually leave the game, this would be good as it would stop people doing this, and still stop you from logging near bosses to get it the next day.
Title: Re: Bosses
Post by wonderful_nightmare on 03/31/03 at 21:05:11
hmm couldn't jlh just make it then when ppl are on the same square as where a boss spawns and the boss spawns they are just teleported to their local instead of the boss not spawning?
Title: Re: Bosses
Post by Reese Stormrage on 03/31/03 at 21:08:17
Good idea, let's wait for the man himself to reply now, shall we?
Title: Re: Bosses
Post by Maesse on 03/31/03 at 21:08:58

on 03/31/03 at 21:05:11, wonderful_nightmare wrote:
hmm couldn't jlh just make it then when ppl are on the same square as where a boss spawns and the boss spawns they are just teleported to their local instead of the boss not spawning?



Very good Idea  ;D
Title: Re: Bosses
Post by Zephie on 04/01/03 at 07:46:53
Personally I think it's fine how it is, bosses are suppose to be interesting. People coming in ruining the spawn etc etc just makes the game a little bit more exciting, why change it? I think everyone pretty much thats sitting here complaining about this has done it atleast once or twice in their nightmist lives :P
Title: Re: Bosses
Post by wonderful_nightmare on 04/01/03 at 08:44:37
not me :D and i think it's just annoying specially with the once a day bosses :D
Title: Re: Bosses
Post by Reese Stormrage on 04/01/03 at 20:37:37

Quote:
I think everyone pretty much thats sitting here complaining about this has done it atleast once or twice in their nightmist lives  


I haven't.
Title: Re: Bosses
Post by Zephie on 04/01/03 at 22:42:42
lol, "Tacit" at cg?

Just found out it was Archie, but your idea as well.
Title: Re: Bosses
Post by Reese Stormrage on 04/01/03 at 23:46:57
still wasn't me :P


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