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(Message started by: lundt on 03/22/03 at 20:42:58)
Title: new race
Post by lundt on 03/22/03 at 20:42:58
angel and demon should be a race. for eg. a angel would get looks and demon wont. wll here are some stats.
Angel :)
20
18
20
18
19
19

Demon >:(
21
17
15
18
19
15
Title: Re: new race
Post by Lyandor on 03/22/03 at 20:46:59
Demon race seems pretty useless.. and the angel is slightly to good.
Title: Re: new race
Post by Nocturnal on 03/22/03 at 20:48:04
I actually think that an Undead race should be put in, so Clerics can kill something.
Title: Re: new race
Post by lundt on 03/22/03 at 21:01:20
i gess
Title: Re: new race
Post by lundt on 03/22/03 at 21:01:48
i gess
Title: Re: new race
Post by Mammon on 03/22/03 at 23:17:38
Try to think each race you want added a little more, add some details and why they should be added, but it still would be doubtful that a new race will be added quite yet.
Title: Re: new race
Post by Caramel on 03/23/03 at 05:37:01
Mammon you need to seriously let people suject what they are thinking of, there is no harm what so ever in sujecting.. it gives the staff ideas..
Title: Re: new race
Post by ICP on 03/23/03 at 09:19:09
Zombie-Class  

Undead-Race  Str-20 int-10 Dex-17 Con-23 Wis-16 Chr-5

Needs high hp because as him being dead ne healer can easly hurt/kill
low intell because hes dead=no brain acttivity
low chr -hes dead and prob decaying lol meaning ugly lol


Zombie skills/spells

Blood suck-Take a good amount of hp from atking player-uses 2 stam/or mabye small about of mana

Mind Swipe-stuns the atking player for 10 sec making him not able to atk

cant think of ne others right now feel free to add some
Title: Re: new race
Post by ArchAngel on 03/23/03 at 09:27:19
Its a good idea, but not really a race.  I think it would be a interesting idea to see a choice to turn a player into a undead type "status" such as a vampire/zombie, it would change the players stats giving them higher/lesser stats in certain areas which would be specific to what type of creature it will become.  Maybe like a vampire where its wisdom, intelligence, and charisma is lowered but it gains a slight str and dex, and gets like .1 vampirtic ability.
Title: Re: new race
Post by ICP on 03/23/03 at 09:37:30
yea its hard comming out with a new Race because the way stats are set up in NM one diff and its a big change , i realy want JLH to think about a new stat arange. meaning you start off picking your stats but you get like 75 points and add to each abbi. and then each lv you get to add more and more each time you lv up making each chr diff from all else. think it will make NM a lot of fun  :P
Title: Re: new race
Post by Tender_Foot on 03/23/03 at 12:13:38

on 03/23/03 at 09:27:19, ArchAngel wrote:
Its a good idea, but not really a race.  I think it would be a interesting idea to see a choice to turn a player into a undead type "status" such as a vampire/zombie, it would change the players stats giving them higher/lesser stats in certain areas which would be specific to what type of creature it will become.  Maybe like a vampire where its wisdom, intelligence, and charisma is lowered but it gains a slight str and dex, and gets like .1 vampirtic ability.



there already is a vampire :). vampires cant be in parties or lead parties
Title: Re: new race
Post by Tender_Foot on 03/23/03 at 12:16:01

on 03/22/03 at 20:42:58, lundt wrote:
angel and demon should be a race. for eg. a angel would get looks and demon wont. wll here are some stats.
Angel :)
20
18
20
18
19
19

Demon >:(
21
17
15
18
19
15


demons you put them are preety useless, i would have them

23 18 17 17 18 15
Title: Re: new race
Post by Mammon on 03/23/03 at 13:31:09

on 03/23/03 at 05:37:01, Caramel wrote:
Mammon you need to seriously let people suject what they are thinking of, there is no harm what so ever in sujecting.. it gives the staff ideas..


The reason I put ideas like this down is they lack thought, if someone is serious about putting something in the game, they need to think it through fully, and know its effects on the game. The reasons why are simple, if the game is improved it needs to have some balance somewhere, if not in classes then in races, if not in races then in classes. At the current time neither are fully balanced, so why add more imbalance by adding another race, totally useless and another too powerful?
I don't know about you, but it really doesn't appear to improve the game to me, which would be the whole point of his post.

Although it was a valiant effort to improve nightmist I pointed out it needs to be thought through to be added to the game, and at the current time, would more then likely be simple brushed away into the pile of good ideas that staff felt did not fit the game properly.
Title: Re: new race
Post by ArchAngel on 03/23/03 at 13:31:17
Am I the only one who hasn't seen a vampire?
Title: Re: new race
Post by Mammon on 03/23/03 at 13:34:25
Do a /who Angel

He is a vampire crit, I believe you must talk to JLH to become one, and have a special connection such as being ex-staff.
Title: Re: new race
Post by Eternyte on 03/23/03 at 18:10:34
The only way I can see Angel/Demon/Undead working are in the following ways:-

Angel
You become this by having under 100 deaths by players, and under 100 player kills when you hit 100 days of online game time. XXX is a Male Human Angel Cleric.
Stat mods maybe +/- 0 str, +1 int, +1 dex +/- 0 cons, +1 wis, +2 char.
As soon as you break 100 dbp or pk's you return to normal, with no chance of becoming an Angel again.

Demon
You become this by having under 100 deaths by players, and over 5000 pk's in 100 days of online game time. XXX is a Male Human Demon Mage.
Same kind of stat mods as Angel to make it a little fairer.

Undead
You become this as soon as you come into the range of half damage exp. Or have been killed by other players over 3000 times. XXX is a Female Elf Undead Druid.
These stat mods would be for the worse as dying is not a good thing. -1 str, -2 int, - 1 dex, +/- 0 cons, -2 wis, - 15 char.

Thats the only way I could see it working, unless on the rolling screen you could choice an alignment. Although I do think it's not really in the interests of Nightmist to do this. Havent really given it too much thought, just a quick glance over.
Title: Re: new race
Post by Stotic on 03/23/03 at 18:11:10
He's a close friend of JLH I believe.  Demons and undead used be races pre-reset. (My demon Knight :))
Race stat editing is a very interesting topic eternyte and has been hardly touched upon.
Title: Re: new race
Post by Tender_Foot on 03/23/03 at 21:28:13

on 03/23/03 at 18:10:34, Eternyte wrote:
The only way I can see Angel/Demon/Undead working are in the following ways:-

Angel
You become this by having under 100 deaths by players, and under 100 player kills when you hit 100 days of online game time. XXX is a Male Human Angel Cleric.
Stat mods maybe +/- 0 str, +1 int, +1 dex +/- 0 cons, +1 wis, +2 char.
As soon as you break 100 dbp or pk's you return to normal, with no chance of becoming an Angel again.

Demon
You become this by having under 100 deaths by players, and over 5000 pk's in 100 days of online game time. XXX is a Male Human Demon Mage.
Same kind of stat mods as Angel to make it a little fairer.

Undead
You become this as soon as you come into the range of half damage exp. Or have been killed by other players over 3000 times. XXX is a Female Elf Undead Druid.
These stat mods would be for the worse as dying is not a good thing. -1 str, -2 int, - 1 dex, +/- 0 cons, -2 wis, - 15 char.

Thats the only way I could see it working, unless on the rolling screen you could choice an alignment. Although I do think it's not really in the interests of Nightmist to do this. Havent really given it too much thought, just a quick glance over.


I've never seen anyone suggest something like this.

* gives it 2 thumbs up
Title: Re: new race
Post by Necros on 03/23/03 at 21:30:38
People who have died 3000 times would have to reset there crits or they have terrible stats forever..
Title: Re: new race
Post by ArchAngel on 03/23/03 at 22:34:20
All ppl would have to do is sit in the clan arena and go at it to get their pks for Demon.
Title: Re: new race
Post by Deval on 03/23/03 at 23:16:14

Angels are a race huh?  ::)
Title: Re: new race
Post by Tender_Foot on 03/23/03 at 23:30:58

on 03/23/03 at 23:16:14, Deval wrote:
Angels are a race huh?  ::)


lol, i didnt even notice that these suggestions are actually classes, rather what he said, races.


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