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(Message started by: -Gaddy- on 07/19/03 at 05:17:26)

Title: Shields
Post by -Gaddy- on 07/19/03 at 05:17:26

How can a ranger use a shield and use a bow at the same time? I don't think the should get to. They are a very very powerful class and beat most other classes out in most anything, and i don't see how a ranger, no magical enhance on armor, could have almost the same amount of armor as a fighter what is it...swh is 6 less than spiked armor? + add in that most rangers are halflings and therefore make up that armor on dwarf fighters which are usually the ones that do well in duels and such (although magnus was an ownage h-ling fighter)...i just dont see where it makes sense.

I would assume this has come up before....

Title: Re: Shields
Post by Ashton on 07/19/03 at 06:24:56

it has come up before and I believe there was a huge discussion over it...I think sheilds should be removed from rangers or at least limited to bracers and arm guards...things of that sort

Title: Re: Shields
Post by Sausage on 07/19/03 at 06:26:32

I agree. Rangers can wear shields but Thieves have to wear bracers and such. :o

Title: Re: Shields
Post by Stotic on 07/19/03 at 07:13:11

I agree with the shield being removed.

Title: Re: Shields
Post by Ashton on 07/20/03 at 02:35:26

at the very least they should be replaced by some other type of armor, but they really don't need anything at all if you ask me

Title: Re: Shields
Post by Jurian on 07/20/03 at 12:04:16

hmm i saw this movie a while ago and there was a group of rangers who tied a shield to their arm (not like massive shield but i would say not a small shield either) and could use that and still fire.

but yyeah a spiked shield would be too much lol but maybe a medium shield would be good for em :D

Title: Re: Shields
Post by AlliedAssault on 07/22/03 at 06:29:19

To me this just sound like a post to tamper with a class. If everyone wants to really get technical how are mages able to use spider gauntlets. The magic comes from their hands and the gloves would prevent that from happening.

Title: Re: Shields
Post by KasumiFire on 07/22/03 at 07:56:31

If you really want to get technical, how are Rangers able to shoot five arrows in a split second accurately, or at all for that matter? How can Fighters wield a large polearm (Halberd) with one hand? How come Druids can kill animals? These are just some of the controversial issues within the realm of Nightmist. Changing some of these things will eventually bring a balance to the world.

On a sidenote, magic comes from the mind, not the hands.

Title: Re: Shields
Post by Jurian on 07/22/03 at 10:37:51

actually with the spider gaunts i think the magic comes from the gaunts :D

Title: Re: Shields
Post by Hexagram on 07/23/03 at 04:50:46

The reason they can use shields is because every time someone raises the point 10 people who play rangers as their main crits shout it down without any justifiable reason because they're afraid that their characters will be made less powerful.

Title: Re: Shields
Post by Mephistroth on 07/23/03 at 12:20:29

on 07/22/03 at 07:56:31, KasumiFire wrote:

They DON'T shoot them accurately, thats why they miss.
Fighters need to be changed aswell, remove the shield if they use a halberd.
Druids would kill animals if they had a reason, and I think that them attacking innocent people is a pretty good one ;D

Title: Re: Shields
Post by Jurian on 07/23/03 at 12:36:36

on 07/23/03 at 04:50:46, Hexagram wrote:

hmm my main is a ranger lol :D (as far as i have a mian :D) but i say spiked shield is too much for em indeed :D

Title: Re: Shields
Post by -Gaddy- on 07/24/03 at 00:51:14

Well fighters are suppose to be pretty strong, and they use halberds from lvl 20, how does it make sense to say the fighter class would have barely any armor more than a ranger, rangers seem to hit with all of their stam pretty often...atleast WAY more often than zerkers.

Don't get me wrong, ive only got 1 arch fighter, 2 arch rangers a master ranger, and 2 arch thieves as our high lvls, so lessening rangers power doesnt help me..cause the fighter we just sit sgh and lose exp on because of how useless he is outside of trying to get the kill on bosses (that he can actually hurt).

I think the problem here really is the fact that the older players with all the stuff really mostly have arch rangers as their crits because they've always been the best at PKing and most useful at bosses, if they become less powerful..so do the players that use them, but i dont see how that is a fair reason to make them stay with extra armor.

The reason i really say take their shields is because of how high their armor is, they shouldnt have armor that is almost as good as fighters when they're suppose to be people that run around tracking in the woods and nuts like that, though ought to have to have fairly simple things on them since carrying around a large spiked shield doesnt seem like something a person running though the woods and such, being quick and stealthy (quick enough to fire arrows at such a rate and accuratly because they've practiced it all their life, just as a fighter would have the strenght to use a hally and a shield at the same time because they've used weapons and shields all their lives...doesnt it make sense that a fighter would have far more armor than a ranger...not 6 more...muchless that rangers are mostly h-lings so they have equal armor to a dwarf fighter or human fighter. They ought to be like thieves, even though theives should get better sheilds i think, because both classes must be steathy, i'd assume a thief might need both hands so that they can...i dunno..something about keeping stealth and balance type stuff while assassinating...i'd assume that'd be like sneeking up on someone/thing and such...steel bracers or such would be reasonable or some kind of wooden sheild that'd blend in with trees..and be lighter.