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Title: New Ranger Weapon Post by No Respect on 01/27/03 at 16:14:16 Dark Prey (bow) Rangers ONLY Base damage 23 +1 dex -2 int more info to come |
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Title: Re: New Ranger Weapon Post by Pyros on 01/27/03 at 16:52:59 Rangers don't need a new bow... Maybe another enchanted bow but with a different name. |
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Title: Re: New Ranger Weapon Post by Darken on 01/27/03 at 16:59:29 I fought they were bring out a lvl 30 ranger weapon soon :-/ |
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Title: Re: New Ranger Weapon Post by PopTart on 01/27/03 at 17:15:16 Celestial bow has been talked about for ages I don't see it happening. |
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Title: Re: New Ranger Weapon Post by Oblivion on 01/27/03 at 18:16:39 Yes lets give Rangers a new bow extra dex and take away a stat that is useless to them and make them even more powerfull then they already are.!!!! |
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Title: Re: New Ranger Weapon Post by Darken on 01/27/03 at 18:21:04 The current use of ranger weapons is fine, rangers are not invincible, they just seem that way due to there attacks. |
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Title: Re: New Ranger Weapon Post by Oblivion on 01/27/03 at 18:57:55 I agree, they aren't Gods, but they are basically the best class. |
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Title: Re: New Ranger Weapon Post by sugah on 01/28/03 at 10:02:55 anymage with aura should be able to beat a ranger...if you cant then youre a rookie. |
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Title: Re: New Ranger Weapon Post by Deval on 01/29/03 at 01:06:41 Shut up rookie :P |
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Title: Re: New Ranger Weapon Post by PopTart on 01/29/03 at 06:01:39 I remember when John use to call me rookie. |
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Title: Re: New Ranger Weapon Post by KaZuL on 01/29/03 at 15:32:33 I don't think we need a dex adding bow, all this game needs is a bunch of 24 dex halfling rangers running around 1 rounding everyone. (I own 3 halflings so shush lol.) I do think that a level 30 bow should be brought in that has a higher base damage, like 25 or so. Rangers don't have the best hp, and if any rangers have gone against a halfling fighter loaded with cr's, sg's, and AoH, you'll agree that being able to do a bit more damage against someone with almost 100armor would be a little more fair. |
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Title: Re: New Ranger Weapon Post by Deval on 01/31/03 at 00:28:29 Rangers are good. They don't need to be improved, they just need to be edited. Which means taking from the good and adding to the not so good or wrong. They don't need another bow. Actually thats all I need to say THEY DONT 'NEED' ANOTHER BOW. |
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Title: Re: New Ranger Weapon Post by KaZuL on 01/31/03 at 15:42:25 oh u mean makeing them weaker huh. How bout no. Like I said rangers are fine as is. People who complain about their power would be alot quieter if they had an arch ranger in their account. So just leave the freakin rangers alone. |
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Title: Re: New Ranger Weapon Post by PopTart on 01/31/03 at 16:01:25 I don't feel any classes should be tooken back until all the classes are updated... |
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Title: Re: New Ranger Weapon Post by Pyros on 01/31/03 at 18:08:11 Rangers are over powered, everyone knows that, and almost everyone owns one, which means nobody will want them changed. |
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Title: Re: New Ranger Weapon Post by PopTart on 01/31/03 at 20:00:03 I just feel they shouldn't be tampered with until all the classes have been updated. |
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Title: Re: New Ranger Weapon Post by Dennis21 on 02/02/03 at 18:34:11 i agree wit kazul leave them alone |
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Title: Re: New Ranger Weapon Post by PopTart on 02/03/03 at 05:22:14 Mages are rightfully stronger. Do you have any idea how difficult it is to train a mage? |
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Title: Re: New Ranger Weapon Post by KaZuL on 02/03/03 at 15:42:18 mages take forever to train, so if you actually take the time to level it to 28+ u deserve to have a powerful crit. As for the remark that rangers only have 1 class that challenges them, u know nothing. High level fighters, mages, and thieves are a challenge to fight, no matter how many rangers you have. I think if u went up against a pk party packin 3 thieves, an arch fighter and master mage, rangers or not, u'd have ur hands pretty dam full. |
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Title: Re: New Ranger Weapon Post by Digital [Disturbance] on 02/14/03 at 02:41:07 I'm fully behind MANY people in this one. First of all, I agree with Kazul. Leave the rangers alone because they're already the dominant force in Nightmist. But secondly, I also agree with the higher base damage on a new bow. Maybe just 1 or 2 more, because that could cause like +10 damage a round, and +10 damage per round could be the winning of Triplex, or a Quest or a big clan fight. ::) |
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Title: Re: New Ranger Weapon Post by SweUrk Rchirack Unicrown on 02/17/03 at 04:00:21 Well... I'm not a ranger expert, I'm just pked by them alot! I'm pked mostly by rangers! I'm almost never pked by a cleric! Thieves are annoying. Pallys are weak. Mages are never used. I think.... Poptart is an experienced ranger, he knows best about rangers, BUT!!!! He has a ranger, that makes him want it to be powerful (or just unchanged). Overall i'd say poptarts opinion on a scale of 1 to 10 would be an 8 Mr Noobie: He's probably not an experienced rangerer, and hes pked by rangers alot. So hes against rangers On a scale of 1 to 10, hed rate 2 My opinion: Rangers are underpowered. Even though sometimes they do good damage, their hit rate is awful, (my lvl 13 cleric vs. lvl 15 ranger, cleric wins): I am not an experience rangerer, but I'm pked by them alot and know their power, fighters and mages can more effieciently pk me (umm, my char used to be 3rd in the pked list): On a scale of 1 to 10 my opinion rates 6! My opinion is arrows should be added, also, rangers shoudl be given a few swords/staffs. Here are a few suggestions, Saber of Leaves: Mana leech and Vamparic (even though rangers don't have mana, it still absorbs) also little bonus vs. undead or something. 18 base damagel. Lvl 18 Branch: Maybe a out of 20 forages could pick one of these up. Lvl 1 weapon, 3 base damage. There could be a lvl 20 ability called 'burning branch'. This does about the same thing is flaming arrow, only + damage! Each branch gets 3 of these. 'Bandage' ability. Requires 'herbs'. Herbs coudl be bought and foraged for. This heals 10-70 damage depending on lvl! Blade of berries: VERY rare, can only be made by having a rangers forage about 60 berries, and having a lvl 25 druid take it to a hidden forge, and then having a cleric take it to a clerics guild to be blessed and then taking it with a mage to a hidden cave inside a mountain where a boss would have to be fought, and then enchanting the blade in another room. 1.0 vamparic 23 base damage lvl 28 .1 mana leech Availible for rangers only! |
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Title: Re: New Ranger Weapon Post by King_Macros on 02/17/03 at 10:05:52 what a pathetic post. |
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Title: Re: New Ranger Weapon Post by Beowulf on 02/20/03 at 02:13:54 whoever said rangers shouldnt get a new bow....that they should get something else..i should smack you...rangers use bows...they live in the wild..they hunt, they forage...the need a bow *smacks anyone that said they dont need a bow* |
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Title: Re: New Ranger Weapon Post by drizzt_dourden on 02/20/03 at 14:30:51 on 02/20/03 at 02:13:54, Beowulf wrote:
they dont need a "NEW" bow....smacks you back....hard. a few alternatives to a bow would be a nice addition. of course, some abilities would not be able to work when not using a bow. |
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Title: Re: New Ranger Weapon Post by Alicia on 02/21/03 at 12:34:35 Id say ranger need a new bow, or one of the existing ones updated. Not a new l25-30 bow, the e-bow is fine but a new lower level bow (why oh why did they make an oak staff better than a shortbow, or indeed a short sword). Perhaps one similar to the blade of sacrifice, suitable for lvl13-15 as a boss drop and higher damage than the standard weapon at that level |
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Title: Re: New Ranger Weapon Post by King_Macros on 02/22/03 at 06:18:16 we dont need a blade of sacrifice in the first place, they are way to powerful for the lvl. Personally, with the new bersrkers running around pk'ing archy's, this game is tending to get a little old. Im say lets give everything the ability to be god and get it over with |
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Title: Re: New Ranger Weapon Post by Beowulf on 02/22/03 at 10:43:14 tsk tsk king_macros frustrated about being pked are we? someone is mad...becuase they arent as good as they thought. Finally something comes about that actually can face up to those who think they are awesome. Learn how to take out the beserkers. Every class has a weakness. Maybe if everyone thought about strategery *geoge w.* then you could be a god. Quit thinking strength is the best option. |
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Title: Re: New Ranger Weapon Post by King_Macros on 02/24/03 at 04:15:28 on 02/22/03 at 10:43:14, Beowulf wrote:
Actually, I'm tired of everyone trying to make everything able to pk anyone in 1 hit. Personally, I've never pk'ed better, took a couple TR archies out 2 nights ago, ICEEE last night with quite a few other pk'ers who think theyre all that. I think I've only been pk'ed like 8 times in the last month, if that :). |
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Title: Re: New Ranger Weapon Post by Deval on 02/28/03 at 01:24:19 *sigh* Looks like someone needs to lay the facts down again, and yes I have a very high level Ranger. Rangers do not need a new weapon, especially not one with a higher base damage, they can easily beat any class 99.9%, perhaps excluding the highly overpowered beserker. Someone said a fighter can beat a ranger rather easily, and fact of the matter is, that's pure bull. Fighters don't stand a chance against a ranger as soon as the hypno is slapped on. Rangers do not need anymore skills, the set of skills they have now is fine and deal with most tasks sufficiently, possibly even more than necessary. Rangers do no need a shield, possibly an accessory such as the metal splint to go in the shield slot, would quench the thirst for a new ranger item. |
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Title: Re: New Ranger Weapon Post by ICP on 04/10/03 at 23:06:28 i Think rangers shoudl get a Vamp bow #1 almost all the classes have a Vamp something #2 all Vamp wepons for a Ranger now are Staffs/Blades and rangers cant Rapid fire with one #3 spice the game up a bit!! ;D |
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Title: Re: New Ranger Weapon Post by Tender_Foot on 04/11/03 at 04:30:32 if you wanna spice up the game, go after the fighters. Spider staff is a vamp weapon for rangers cobalt staff is a vamp weapon for rangers rangers dont need a rapid fire vamp, thats rediculous. Although i do feel they are very soon, putting in a new weapon for lvl 30 rangers that has a higher base damage, they dont need it. |
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Title: Re: New Ranger Weapon Post by Issy on 07/07/03 at 03:27:48 I posted along time ago when i had F about rangers having a Vamp bow that had a lower base damage as the Enchanted bow. give it a .3 vamp. I also posted as well an idea for a Crossbow, only have like a +2 base damage than a enchanted bow. Only got severe bashs about the idea... ~Isaiah |
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Title: Re: New Ranger Weapon Post by -Gaddy- on 07/11/03 at 16:32:07 K, ive got 2 arch rangers and a master now...1 elf and 2 halflings...they arent perf or anything..but they own pretty hard...you give them a better weapon than enchanted bow and they are going to mess up anything that gets near them...this is just like how people want to make devestate all powerful....we dont need to improve the classes that already are very strong...even fighters and mages are fine if you're willing to spend 3 mill on them in equip and stuff...thieves are good, + they added ED, pallys, i dont know i dont play them...clerics own, druids..dont have a high lvl there either..but vampyre owns pretty hard. |
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Title: Re: New Ranger Weapon Post by -Gaddy- on 07/11/03 at 16:35:27 on 02/17/03 at 04:00:21, SweUrk Rchirack Unicrown wrote:
I just want to note in here how fighters (who seem like they ought to be the most used for "fighting") arent even mentioned...it is because of how few people can afford CSoTW and Blade of Time, and if they can...why waste them on a fighter..zerkers are better for BoT, thieves with staffs are cool...but ya...i guess they skipped out zerkers also...probably cause you dont see them too far out of town too often...they need spells and stuff just like everything else..but worse cause of how often they miss. |
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Title: Re: New Ranger Weapon Post by Despair on 07/14/03 at 07:05:44 Rangers are currently a very well balanaced class plus they are the only class whos best weapon you can buy in the stores and is magical/affordable . . . Give them anything more powerful and you face overpowering them . . . I suggest if anything give them a nonmagical bow with the same base damage (maybe even 1 more base damage) with a different name . . . as an alternative to the Enchanted bow |
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Title: Re: New Ranger Weapon Post by Eternyte on 07/14/03 at 15:59:18 an Unchanted Bow perhaps :) |
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Title: Re: New Ranger Weapon Post by Origenes on 07/14/03 at 19:27:53 But how they can use shields with bows? I never understand it. :o |
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Title: Re: New Ranger Weapon Post by Outsider on 07/14/03 at 19:28:55 one-handed crossbow |
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Title: Re: New Ranger Weapon Post by Origenes on 07/14/03 at 20:11:12 Ok. lol :) |
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Title: Re: New Ranger Weapon Post by Eternyte on 07/15/03 at 06:22:47 Even with a one-handed crossbow, they would still need to reload the wepon. This would mean dropping the sheild to use both arms, thus be open to critical hits. It's been debated that Rangers shouldnt be able to equip a shield, and I still think it should be changed. |
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Title: Re: New Ranger Weapon Post by eddie on 07/15/03 at 10:18:19 yea and how can they rapid fire wit a shield in one hand and just one other hand to reload? |
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Title: Re: New Ranger Weapon Post by Eternyte on 07/15/03 at 16:24:28 That was the point. However, nothing seems to happen, so it's hardly worth mentioning. |
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Title: Re: New Ranger Weapon Post by Outsider on 07/15/03 at 17:11:20 u can load up too 8 arrows on a crossbow, to what ive seen. So u can rappid fire (even better then with using a normal bow). And if u dont want a crossbow, u can have a shield patched on ur arm, so u wont even know its theire, untill it blocks a hit for u. |
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