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(Message started by: Blast on 04/01/03 at 07:00:29)

Title: Halfling or Human?
Post by Blast on 04/01/03 at 07:00:29
::) I guess Paladins can only be Halflings or Humans, what ya think, wich race is better for 'em? Just wondering...

Title: Re: Halfling or Human?
Post by medication on 04/01/03 at 11:26:14
Seeing how both human and halfling are good vs monsters it's pvp that counts.

Then, I would say that hp rolls are most important, because you can have 18con halfling pally ending up with hp as good as 19con human pally. And seeing how they both will pretty much get same mana too, even if halfling has 18wis, and considering low effect of +1 str on humans, I'd have to say that halflings could turn out to be better paladins due to general +2 dex.
But, if your human pally is 5 stat perfect, with ~300 hp, then it might have some advantage.

Title: Re: Halfling or Human?
Post by Fyxie on 04/01/03 at 13:18:43
I've got one of each and I'd hafta say I prefer halfling. My halfling pally has more hp's and hits way more often then the human pally. But the human pally hits slightly harder. I guess it just comes down to personal preference.

Title: Re: Halfling or Human?
Post by Oblivion on 04/01/03 at 13:57:02
I say halfling, they're nice 21 dex + that what Holy speed gives, is going to work great.

Title: Re: Halfling or Human?
Post by Sanctuared on 04/02/03 at 03:16:28
Oblivion, youd tink so wouldn't you? My 21 dex pally, with holy speed casted (27 dex) still misses a lot.  Holy Speed doesn't seem to do anything (consult other post).

Title: Re: Halfling or Human?
Post by Defiant on 04/03/03 at 08:19:22
lol...Halflings with 27 dex don't miss....

Title: Re: Halfling or Human?
Post by Creed on 04/05/03 at 06:22:20
Personally I prefer humans, heh in fact, I prefer a human in every class! To me they are the best race in a way, b/c their stats are so balanced, and that's what I like.. I mean, if you had a perfect human or near perfect human, you could choose any class you like, so that's why I like them.. But that's only me.

Title: Re: Halfling or Human?
Post by Blast on 04/05/03 at 10:18:42
okay, thank u guys

Title: Re: Halfling or Human?
Post by Defiant on 04/07/03 at 20:38:45
What did you choose?

Title: Re: Halfling or Human?
Post by Blast on 04/12/03 at 21:43:58
Halfling, thx again for your help ppl.

Title: Re: Halfling or Human?
Post by Defiant on 04/12/03 at 23:06:32
Good Choice, and No Problem.

Title: Re: Halfling or Human?
Post by Rafie_Khan on 11/17/03 at 20:03:50
what stats are decent for a human paladin? or what stats are like the standard for human pallys

Title: Re: Halfling or Human?
Post by Two on 11/18/03 at 07:06:02
at least solid nine's all around.  if you get that....*drool

Title: Re: Halfling or Human?
Post by Sausage on 11/18/03 at 17:39:23
19 x 19 19 19 17


Those are good stats to work with. Nothing too special but good enough.

Title: Re: Halfling or Human?
Post by Rafie_Khan on 11/18/03 at 17:43:17
what about 19/17/19/18/19/18???

Title: Re: Halfling or Human?
Post by Sausage on 11/18/03 at 17:45:19
Not bad. Not good either though..  I dunno...

For first they're not that bad. Train him awhile (not to long :P), get a feel for pallys, save up and buy or roll a nice stated crit to make a new pally.

Just a though.


Edit: "For a first crit, they're not that bad."

Title: Re: Halfling or Human?
Post by Rafie_Khan on 11/18/03 at 18:10:34
would anyone buy him when I wanna buy a new crit? or his stats just....kaka?

Title: Re: Halfling or Human?
Post by Gosu Alex Wild on 11/19/03 at 17:47:58
Nothing wrong with those.

Title: Re: Halfling or Human?
Post by Mephistroth on 11/19/03 at 21:27:06
There not too bad, however 18 con is a little low and it makes one of the bonuses of humans over halflings (19 con instead of 18) useless.

Title: Re: Halfling or Human?
Post by Sausage on 11/19/03 at 22:30:26
If you get him to a substantial level someone will buy him. Like I said. Train him, learn the ins and outs of pallies, then (if you are that concerned about the stats) get/roll a new one.

Title: Re: Halfling or Human?
Post by Bean on 11/20/03 at 04:23:55
If you say -1 con is low you should be shot tortured, and dumped in salt...

Its a one off four stat, and a two off five stat for gods sakes...

Raphie, that crit is awesome, level it to lvl 30 and you'll have a pretty nice cleric. Power to ya buddy.

Title: Re: Halfling or Human?
Post by Eiements on 11/20/03 at 07:17:20
id say halfling in pvp because they get 2 more dex and 7 more ac and about the same hp

even tho it seems mine with 98 ac and 29 dex still sucks im not sure maybe humans are better

Title: Re: Halfling or Human?
Post by Mephistroth on 11/20/03 at 12:25:57
If you say -1 con is low you should be shot tortured, and dumped in salt...

Its a one off four stat, and a two off five stat for gods sakes...


Stop looking for an excuse to flame people and actually read the posts. Whats the point in a human if you have 18 con? Halflings: -1 str (makes no diff in damage) +2 dext (makes huge difference). The 19 wisdom makes up for it slightly, but its still not any better than a 4 stat halfling. Not to mention the bonus ac you get.

Raphie, that crit is awesome, level it to lvl 30 and you'll have a pretty nice cleric. Power to ya buddy.

It's also a PALADIN, not a cleric. It's not 'awesome' but it also ins't crap.


Title: Re: Halfling or Human?
Post by Gosu Alex Wild on 11/20/03 at 18:54:56
Agreed with Mephistroth.

I did play a Paladin a lot...my favourite Paladin


Carnage;
18 x 21 17 18 16
273 hp  ;D (with 17 con that is VERY good)
and he had about 318 MP
The amount of offers i had on that by Eternyte  ::)
Bought it back eventually though..


Either way back to the point.


Bean; as Meph said stop looking for a chance to flame someone.

Eiements; trying to be nice here, but maybe you can't use Paladins?

Meph; :D


Raphie or w/e; In my opinion you should drop the whole 'Human' Thing. Try get a Good Halfling; preferablly 18 cons, because i don't think the 17 will get you lucky like Carnage had; but maybe i am wrong?

Humans technically aren't good Paladins; you need the dexterity. Carnage was barely hittable as was my other paladin...who had 18 x 21 18 18 19. (same hp btw). Had 29 dex with Holy Speed i THINK. And i barely missed/got hit.
If you roll a good halfling, good, level it, you will have a lot of power 1 v 1 with that character...



Lowest stats you should really go in a halfling:

18 x 21 17 18 15+

Lowest you should go..If you want to PM me over the forums and ask me anything else about Paladins id be happy to help.

Admittidly im not god of paladins, but i think i know my fair share about them.

Title: Re: Halfling or Human?
Post by Terrier on 01/22/04 at 20:39:05
Definately human
i think terrier can take any halfing same level 1-1 with same equip. (i think).
or maby i just like him :P
and i got 4 archmages 2 archzerkers 1 archranger and 1 archfighter  in 1-1 duel at level 26 so maby they are same...or better

Title: Re: Halfling or Human?
Post by Haunted on 01/22/04 at 21:07:12
Shame i don't play or i would have dueled you with Everglass...


18 17 21 18 18 19...had like 27-29 dex with equipp....273 hp, 319 mp(i think) u wouldnt beat it lol

Title: Re: Halfling or Human?
Post by Terrier on 01/22/04 at 21:39:36
lol it wont
first of all it's an arch
i have 293 mp at level 26
figure out my mp at arch (healing)
and my hp at levle 26 is 263 :>
think about it.
And im allso looking for a halfing level 26(27 maby..)
to see witch race is better.
if anyone has one we can try work it out
but it will be character fight (same items on both)
just to see...im curious.

Title: Re: Halfling or Human?
Post by DragonHeart on 01/23/04 at 10:59:59
talk to me ingame terrier i just lvled my halfling paladin to 26
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Title: Re: Halfling or Human?
Post by Terrier on 01/23/04 at 12:38:34
ok terrier vs dragonheart same items same level
1 vs 1 no healing terrier won with 89 hp left
1 vs 1 with healing dragonheart won with a good round
he was out of mana i had 14 mana left (2 more heals)i died before i used it...you do the judge ;D
after me they are both balanced..but humans are better in most of things.

Title: Re: Halfling or Human?
Post by Haunted on 01/23/04 at 19:26:42
lol noob.

Title: Re: Halfling or Human?
Post by Rappy_Ninja on 01/24/04 at 01:18:50

on 01/23/04 at 12:38:34, Terrier wrote:
ok terrier vs dragonheart same items same level
1 vs 1 no healing terrier won with 89 hp left
1 vs 1 with healing dragonheart won with a good round
he was out of mana i had 14 mana left (2 more heals)i died before i used it...you do the judge ;D
after me they are both balanced..but humans are better in most of things.





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Title: Re: Halfling or Human?
Post by Rappy_Ninja on 01/24/04 at 01:19:29
incase you didnt understand that it means duel me  :P

Title: Re: Halfling or Human?
Post by Terrier on 01/24/04 at 01:30:04
been there , done that..nothing else to proove.
i wont fight all lings in game now just to proove a thing
next time i'l fight a ling will be at arch.

Title: Re: Halfling or Human?
Post by Detheroc on 01/24/04 at 08:53:53

on 01/24/04 at 01:30:04, Terrier wrote:
i wont fight all lings in game now just to proove a thing


Sorry to burst your bubble, but yes, you do. It's no good saying 'humans are better than halflings. I dueled one pally and won.' You need to duel a few more than one paladin to prove it.

Title: Re: Halfling or Human?
Post by Terrier on 01/24/04 at 11:54:04
i did it to proove it to miself.
and dont need anything else...i was there i sow how it gows..it's enough

Title: Re: Halfling or Human?
Post by Rappy_Ninja on 01/24/04 at 15:37:10

on 01/24/04 at 11:54:04, Terrier wrote:
i did it to proove it to miself.
and dont need anything else...i was there i sow how it gows..it's enough





watch out lol I talked all that trash back when I was like you and now everyone hates me  :D



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